90s,
90s, RENT
90s, RENT AND UTILITIES NEVER UNDER 45%.
UNDER 45%. I RETIRED IN BREMERTON, STILL
PAY LESS THAN AN APARTMENT
RENTAL, STILL WELL OVER
RECOMMENDED PERCENTAGES.
RECOMMENDED PERCENTAGES. >> IT HURTS, DOESN'T IT?
>> THANK YOU, GUYS.
WE SENT IT OVER TO ANGELA AND
CHRIS WITH A GUEST.
>>> YESTERDAY ON THE SHOW, WE
HEARD FROM THE KIDS AT ISSAQUAH
HIGH SCHOOL THAT WALKED OUT OF
CLASS, CONDEMNING A RACIST FIND
A STUDENT USED TO ASK SOMEONE
TO ADVANCE.
TO ADVANCE. >> YESTERDAY ON THE SHOW, WE
HEARD FROM THEM AND WANT TO ASK
THE QUESTION WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
HOW DO WE LEARN FROM THIS?
THE AUTHOR AND UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON PROFESSOR IS WITH US
TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
WE HAD A NICE DISCUSSION TODAY,
SHE LAID OUT BASICALLY 5 THINGS
WE CAN MAYBE TAKE AWAY FROM
THIS INCIDENT IN TERMS OF WHERE
WE GO FROM HERE.
NUMBER ONE, IS TO REALIZE THIS
IS A SYMPTOM.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE METAPHOR, INSTEAD OF VILIFY
THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON, TO THINK
ABOUT THIS RACIST ACT AS A
SYMPTOM OF A LARGER DISEASE,
THE DISEASE IS RACISM.
IF WE SPEND OUR TIME FOCUSED ON
THE INCIDENT, THEN WE LOSE
SIGHT OF ALL THE THINGS WE NEED
TO DO TO SOLVE THIS INCIDENT.
SOMETIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS, WE
SPEND SO MUCH TIME AND
ATTENTION ON THAT PERSON, THEN
WE THINK, WE WOULD NEVER DO
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE DON'T HOLD OR HARBOR RACIAL
ANIMOSITY OURSELVES, THEN IT
BECOMES THIS ESCAPE HATCH.
>> NUMBER TWO, THE SECOND TO D-
BACKS ON THAT, GET OUTSIDE OF
YOUR BUBBLE, GET OUTSIDE YOUR
CIRCLES, GET MORE INVOLVED.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW A WONDERFUL
AREA THIS IS, IN TERMS OF FREE
TALKS, WORKSHOPS PEOPLE CAN
ATTEND, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF
THINGS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON, THE SEATTLE LIBRARY
OFFERS, TO MEET UP GROUPS, WE
TALKED ABOUT PLACES LIKE
COALITION OF ANTIRACIST WHITES,
PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HAVE
THESE CONVERSATIONS.
THESE CONVERSATIONS. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT NOT
TOKENIZE PEOPLE OF COLOR, I
REALLY WANT TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION, I'M GOING TO GO
AND FIND THE ONE PERSON OF
COLOR, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T HAVE
A RELATIONSHIP WITH HER, AND
BEGIN HAVING THE ONE
CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE, THAT
CAN FEEL LIKE INCREDIBLE TAX
AND BURDEN.
AND BURDEN. SENT IF A PERSON IS WHITE, THEY
SHOULD MAYBE TALK TO OTHER
WHITE PEOPLE?
WHITE PEOPLE? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> IS THERE ANOTHER BENEFIT TO
THE OTHER THEN YOU DO NOT
TOKENIZE A PERSON YOU DON'T
KNOW?
KNOW?
KNOW? >>
KNOW? >> THE BENEFIT IS WE ALL HAVE
TO TALK ABOUT RACE, IF WE ARE
GOING TO SOLVE THEIR ISSUE OF
RACISM, IT IS NOT SOMETHING
SOLVED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR.
WHITE FOLKS NEED TO BE INVOLVED
IN THESE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.
>> IT'S NOT LIKE THE FOURTH
TIP, HOW ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
THIS AT HOME?
A LOT OF US, THIS WEEK, ARE
REASSESSING, HOW DO WE TALK
ABOUT THIS?
ABOUT THIS? >> I THINK FOR FAMILY OF COLOR,
RACE TALK IS PART OF OUR
EVERYDAY CONVERSATION, AND THAT
DOES NOT HAPPEN FOR A LOT OF
WHITE PEOPLE, THAT IS WITH THE
DATA, THE RESEARCH SHOWS.
AND YET, IT NEEDS TO BE A PART
OF ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS,
EVEN WHEN IT IS NOT A MOMENT OF
CRISIS LIKE THIS INCIDENT.
>> IT FEELS LIKE A LOT OF
ISSUES, IF WE DON'T HAVE A
CONVERSATION WITH OUR KIDS
ABOUT IT OR DON'T TALK ABOUT
IT, THEY USUALLY GET THE
MESSAGE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE,
WHETHER IT BE THE MEDIA OR
FRIENDS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
WONDERING IN THIS SCENARIO,
WHERE THIS CAME FROM.
>> RIGHT, EXACTLY.
ESPECIALLY AS A PARENT, I DID
NOT TEACH THIS, WHERE DID THAT
COME FROM X NUMBER 5, HE SAID
FAMILY INVOLVEMENT.
FAMILY INVOLVEMENT. IN WHAT WAY ?
>> I THINK THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT, FOR
EXAMPLE, WHAT KIND OF
CURRICULUM HAPPENING AT THE
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL. THIS IS CLEARLY SOME TYPE OF A
CALL BACK TO ENSLAVEMENT, WHAT
TYPE OF EDUCATION IS THERE
AROUND ISSUES OF ENSLAVEMENT?
WHAT ARE THE DEMOGRAPHICS AT
THE SCHOOL?
THE SCHOOL? WHAT ARE THE DEMOGRAPHICS, THE
DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF TEACHERS,
ADMINISTRATORS?
ADMINISTRATORS? WHAT TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS ARE
TAKING PLACE? AND HOW CAN OF
WHITE PARENTS OF WHITE FAMILIES
BE INVOLVED AND INVEST IN THESE
QUESTIONS AS WELL AS FAMILIES
OF COLOR?
OF COLOR?
OF COLOR? >> I LOVE THIS CONVERSATION, SO
OFTEN WHEN THESE INCIDENTS
HAPPEN, WE DO FOCUS ON THE
PERSON WHO DID IT, AND WHERE
DID THEY GET THIS FROM X WE ARE
REALLY MISSING THESE OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN AND
GROW.
GROW.
GROW. >>
GROW. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> I'M SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS
UP.
UP.
UP. YOU
UP. YOU ARE HAVING A TALK COMING
UP.
UP.
UP. US
UP. US A
UP. US A QUICK SYNOPSIS OF THAT.
>> I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT MY
NEW BOOK, WHICH IS CALLED POST
RESISTANCE, ON BLACK WOMEN
MEDIA, WHAT I CALL STRATEGIC
AMBIGUITY.
AMBIGUITY. IT WILL BE NEXT WEDNESDAY AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON,
KANE HALL AT 5:30 PM.
>> PEOPLE CAN TEXT THE WORD
TALK TO 206-448-4545 AND WE
WILL SEND YOU A LINK.
PROFESSOR JOSEPH, THANK YOU FOR
COMING AND TALKING ABOUT