hello, kevin, how are you?
hello. I'm good. how are you doing?
great. we're so excited to talk to you guys.
thanks for having us.
yes, thank you.
how often do you get to see each other in person?
pretty often.
yeah. yeah, pretty often.
we go eat. we stuff our faces a lot together.
yeah, we love to do that.
what a great past time. love that.
exactly.
okay, so, you have your podcast back, "and that's what you really missed".
yes.
that is right.
how do you feel having it now back? you said you have so many social media, like,
people reach out and have demands to bring it back. so, now that your first episode's
out with ryan murphy, how do you feel that it's the first episode coming back?
we're excited about it.
is there any other way to kick it off but with ryan murphy, you know?
insane. when I--because obviously we didn't know who the guest was going to be ahead of time,
so when it dropped, I was like, oh, they started it big, like [indistinct].
that was the plan, that was the plan. yeah, we're really excited about it honestly. we,
um, you know, we're going in with a fresh set of eyes and different,
a different perspective obviously. so, um, I think it'll be, um, a different vibe, which is cool.
yeah. and jenna's mentioned this before too, I think, and, like, you mentioned, if it weren't for
the people berating us on social media, I don't know if we would have brought it back. so, I'm
glad that they were persistent and passionate and we heard them and we saw them, and here we are.
thank god for social media. really pushing you guys--
right?
sometimes good things happen on social media.
that's right. that's right.
and for--speaking of social media, do you think if tiktok was around when "glee" was airing,
how different do you think "glee" would have turned out?
oh my gosh. can you imagine the amount of, like,
tiktok dances and things we would have done on "glee"?
oh my gosh.
it was a different time. i don't know how... and people...
well, and the fact that, like, the creators, like, really did listen to the fans a lot.
um, it's, it's like a whole 'nother level, right? like, it's a whole 'nother
level of incorporating the social media aspect and, um, the wishes of the fans.
yeah. and there's a lot of buzz going around, um, obviously olivia rodrigo blew up because of,
um, tiktok and stuff like that, her song. do you think, by now,
there would have been an olivia rodrigo--our audience loves olivia
rodrigo--an olivia rodrigo episode on "glee"? do you think he would have covered her by now?
hands down.
yeah. yeah. I mean--
we would have done that immediately.
you would have gotten right on top of that.
it sounds like that song was made for "glee", are you kidding me? it's emotional,
there's a story, there is sanging. like, it would have been great.
yes.
yeah.
and you've had a lot of guests. so, you've had ryan murphy on your first episode so far. what
can you tell fans that--do you have any special guests in store for upcoming episodes? have you
filmed them already, or you're gonna invite, who are you gonna invite on?
we're not too far ahead yet, but we are thinking ahead, that's for sure.
um, we're definitely gonna have some alum. we even had some people text us this
morning that were, like, excited and, you know, congratulating us on the podcast relaunch, and,
um, we're like, "well, you gotta come on the show." and, um, you know, we were talking to,
like, dot-marie jones and, you know, all of, like, of our amazing, amazing cast. and then I think,
in this inception of the podcast, we really want to dig into, um, the pop culture aspect
and what was going on in the world as well and that impact. and so, you know,
we'd love to talk to celebrity fans that grew up with "glee" and, um, you know, we'd love to have
some of the artists that we covered on the show as well if they'll come on. so, um, we're really
excited to kind of branch out this time, and, and, um, you know, bring in some really cool people.
yeah. you sound like you have a good, you have a good mindset of [indistinct].
we have a plan.
we're hopeful.
in the--for your first round of the podcast and now this podcast,
you said also in the intro you're really going to get behind the scenes and really
talk about topics that people are constantly asking you about. so, what is the one thing
that people you see are asking you the most, and should they expect it on future episodes?
oh, I think something we want to do, one of the things that we'll address, there's a lot of weird
tiktok conspiracy "glee" things and "glee" talk, and we're going to get into sort of debunking,
or I guess verifying that some of these things are true--mostly not true. um, some of these,
like, weird blind item things. and a lot of them are, like, weird--it's very, very strange.
um, and so, I think that will be a fun thing to actually address and talk about,
because--especially the, because the show's been off for a while now, these things get
crazier and crazier. I think the further you get away from the truth of it all in the time
since the show was on, so being able to go in and dissect that weird stuff will be fun.
yeah. I also think on, like, a more serious note, I think talking about,
um--and ryan touched on it--like, the mental health aspect of all of it. like, um, the mental
health in the workplace is much more, um, I would say, uh, prominent. and it is, like, an actual,
um, its own entity now, right? and, um, we didn't have that in--and in hollywood, it's such a hustle
culture that you don't, you always say yes, you are always on the go, you're always searching for
the next thing, and, um, you know, the hours are just so long and tenuous. and so I think,
um, really kind of looking into what that would have looked like if we were doing this in 2022
and what we might have done differently I think is something we really want to talk about as well.
yeah. which is important because, like, you see with the tweets and stuff, like,
people have a demand for that. like, they want to know what it was really like behind the scenes.
totally. totally.
and with the docuseries news, like, dropping, were you guys aware of that was gonna happen?
or did you find out on social media like everybody else?
no, we had heard inklings it.
yeah.
yeah, I think they tried to get some of us to do it.
um, I just think, for us, it makes, you know, what we're doing now more important, because,
um--to sort of steal some of jenna's words here--is, you know, we were actually there,
and were involved. and, um, I think something like that sounds like it's just going to,
for lack of a better term to be honest, it sounds like trauma porn. like, I don't,
I don't know what, like... they weren't there. we lived this experience, and a lot of it was just,
most of it was a really positive, like, joyous thing. like, we got to go to work and make people
laugh, and we got to sing and dress up in these crazy costumes a lot of the time. and, so, yeah,
I think there's a difference between people who are trying to do a... some weird gossipy thing,
and then there's the real experience. and so it made us even more excited to do this and to
talk openly and truthfully about what really happened. because a lot of it's not as...
we just don't even know who's really actually, like, part of, a part of that at all. so... yeah.
and, from your memory, what was your absolute favorite, to this day,
scene that each of you filmed from "glee"? because there were so many iconic scenes. like,
I literally--you know the merch that people had? like, with "glee", like,
there was so much merch. I religiously never took it off--the whistle from "glee".
oh yeah.
never took it off, for, like, two years. like, that was my life.
that's funny.
um.. I've got to tell you, as much as I hated it...
uh-oh.
no no no, um... the whole week, we did gaga versus katy. and, like, that whole week,
we were in, like, the most insane costumes. um, and I just, like, I hated it but I loved it.
i also, that week was very--I had a, like, I was in this very odd uncomfortable contraption doing
the "artpop" makeup, but I had the time of my life too, because it's got--when you have, like,
permission to do gaga, like, you can just be so crazy and full out because you're still not gonna
match her level. and that--getting to do things like that, like, getting to watch each other,
um, perform in those ways, that you wouldn't normally get to see, was always a treat.
yeah. you got so many iconic scenes, like, I can't even imagine if it was still obviously
a view of the longest running show ever. but, like, imagine, like, just now, like,
the culture and, like, even then, like, you guys were on top of it. like, you were on.
yes. that's all ryan, yeah. we don't, I don't even know where we would begin honestly.
if you could play any other character from "glee", who would you have wanted to play?
I've been asked this question this morning as well, and I said,
um, emma pillsbury. but I'm gonna change it for this one so I can play all the different
characters. um... oh gosh. I think, I think for a moment quinn fabray sounds really fun.
I'm gonna say tina. just because I think that'd be so fun. it's, like, so opposite
of me personally that it would be so much fun to do. give me the blue hair extensions, you know?
i love it. the blue hair.
season one tina. season one tina.
yeah.
if you could cast any current-day celebrity as--say there was, like, a reboot and
someone had to play you, who, what celebrity would you choose?
oh my god. that's... that's trouble.
oh my god, that is hard.
I don't know if me, but I would want to see ariana grande on the show.
that would be insane.
I want to see zendaya on the show. like, she wouldn't obviously not play artie, but...
or maybe.
if the "euphoria" cast could just do a "glee" episode, I would be all for that, yeah.
oh my god, imagine, like, that just, like, meshed together, "euphoria" and "glee". insane.
it's very ryan murphy.
like, the entire internet. that would be absolutely insane. well,
thank you guys so much, and congratulations. I'm so glad the podcast is back and the episode,
I'm halfway through the first one, so I can't wait--
it's long.
it is long.
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thank you so much.
bye.