AS PRECAUTION AS HOLIDAY
SHOPPING KICKS INTO HIGH GEAR,
JOINING US ON THE PHONE DEPUTY
SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECRETARY
KEN.
>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU THIS
MORNING.
CHARLES: THE PERSON WHO
COMMITTED THIS CRIME ON LONDON
BRIDGE KILLED TWO PEOPLE, WAS
PART OF AN AL-QAEDA INSPIRED
PLOT TO BLOW UP THE LONDON STOCK
EXCHANGE, GOES TO PRISON IN
2012, COMES OUT IN 2018 UNDER
WHAT THEY SAY SUBJECT TO
CONDITIONS, I'M TOLD, INCLUDING
AN ANKLE BRACELET.
THERE'S CAUTIONARY TELL FOR ALL
ISN'T THERE?
>> YOU HEARD THE PRIME MINISTER
SPEAKING ABOUT GETTING TOUGHER
FRANKLY.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SEE -- I
DON'T WANT TO SAY SOFT, HOW MUCH
MILD BEHAVIORS CAN BE, PRISON
ISN'T GOING TO REHABILITATE HIM,
YOU KNOW, AND NOW HE COMES AND
COMMITS MORE TERRORISM, WE ARE
VERY ENCOURAGED TO HEAR OUR
BRITISH PARTNERS SPEAKING IN
TERMS OF GETTING TOUGHER ON THIS
FRONT, WE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
OFFER SUPPORT AS SOON AS THE
POTENTIAL TERRORISTS HAPPENED
AND LET'S NOT FORGET, YOU ARE
THE NEWS ORGANIZATION, THIS IS
HAPPENING LESS THAN TWO WEEKS
BEFORE THEY HAVE AN ELECTION.
THERE COULD BE PUBLIC UPROAR
BEYOND JUST THE TERRORIST ATTACK
TO ANY DISCUSSION RELATED
ELECTION.
SORT OF PROGRESSIVE PUSH WHEN IT
COMES TO ALL OF THE SORT OF
THINGS AND SENSE OF UNFAIRNESS
AND THE WAY SOME PEOPLE ARE
TREATED PARTICULARLY IMMIGRANTS
AND THEN THIS PARTICULAR CASE,
SO YOU ARE ALWAYS ON THE FRONT
LINE AS SECRETARY OF HOMELAND
DEFENSE AND YOU PUT UP POSITIONS
THAT ARE MET WITH TREMENDOUS
OPPOSITION ALL OF THE TIME.
>> LOOK, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH
RESPECT TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION,
WE HAVE DRAMATICALLY STRENGTHEN
OUR BETTING.
PREDECESSOR WAS FRANKLY INVITING
PEOPLE IN, MASSIVE NUMBERS OF
SYRIAN REFUGEES AND SO FORTH
THAT WERE UNVETTED BY RELATIVE
STANDARDS OF THIS
ADMINISTRATION, THAT'S A GREAT
DANGER TO THE UNITED STATES AND
TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS EVER BEEN
WILLING TO TOLERATE FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING OF TAKING HIS
OATH OF OFFICE.
>> CHARLES: RIGHT.
>> IF EXECUTE -- EXECUTING THE
POLICY MAKES PEOPLE ANNOYED
THAT'S WHAT ELECTIONS ARE FOR.
CHARLES: I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS
REAL QUICK AND ASK YOU ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN YOU AND
FORMER MARYLAND GOVERNOR MARTIN
O'MALLEY THIS WEEK, REPORT THAT
IS HE SHOUTED AT YOU AT PUBLIC
EVENT BEFORE THANKSGIVING AND
YOU LEFT THE VENUES.
WHAT WAS IT ALL ABOUT?
>> OH, I DIDN'T LEAVE ANYWHERE.
THE NIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING IS
ALL ALUMNI GET-TOGETHER AND A
LOT OF US IN MY CLASS STARTED
AND I WALKED AND WALKED A NUMBER
OF BARS, I WALKED OVER TO ONE
AND STARTED HEARING SCREAMING
AND CURSING AND OFF TO ONE SIDE,
SORT OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
SMALL ROOM I WAS IN AND DIDN'T
TAKE MUCH NOTE OF IT FIRST AND
WHEN I TURNED AROUND TO SEE I
COULD SEE MARTIN O'MALLEY
CUSSING ACROSS THE BAR FROM ME
AND OCCASIONALLY AND AT THE
PRESIDENT, I LOVE THE KIDS AND
CAGES COMMENTS WHERE I SAID,
MARTIN, THAT WAS -- THAT WAS
PRESIDENT OBAMA WHO -- CHARLES:
HE BROUGHT UP YOUR -- HE SAID AS
CHILD OF IMMIGRANTS YOU SHOULD
BE ASHAMED.
>> HE BROUGHT MY ITALIAN
ANCESTRY.
CHARLES: THE MEDIA SAID --
>> NO, NO, WAY.
BUT I DIDN'T LEAVE THERE, HE
PHYSICALLY CONFRONTED ME AND I
WALKED BY HIM.
AND I FOUND MY CLASS MATES AND
HAD MY GUINNESS.
[LAUGHTER]
>> I HEAR YOU.
A GUY THAT THOUGHT COULD BE
PRESIDENT.
CHARLES: I GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR
BEING ABLE TO CIVILLY WORKING
ALL OUT, THEY ARE GETTING TOO
ININTRUSIVE.
MARTIN INVITE MED TO TAKE A
SWING AT HIM AND HE DIDN'T WANT
IT IT IT THAT WAY.
I'M GOING TO RISE ABOVE THIS.
HE DIDN'T LIKE BEING TOLD THAT
EITHER.
CHARLES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
APPRECIATE IT.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, CHARLES.