Some shocking news just in
this morning, being broken by CNN
Zac Cohen
and Sara Murray in Georgia's
election interference probe.
Prosecutors tell CNN
that they can connect.
Sources tell
CNN that prosecutors can connect
a 2021 voting system breach
to the top levels
of Donald Trump's inner circle.
Sources tell CNN
that Atlanta prosecutors
have text messages and emails
that directly connect members
of Trump's legal team
to the 20, 21 breach of a voting system
in Georgia's Coffee County.
This comes as a grand
jury presentation in Georgia
is expected to start as soon as tomorrow,
and that could
potentially result in a fourth indictment
for Donald Trump.
Republican presidential candidate
Will Hurd,
former Texas congressman, joins us now.
Thanks so much for being here.
Appreciate it.
So what is your response?
Prosecutors
say, according to our sources,
that they have evidence
that the Trump team
was involved
in this breach of election equipment.
Well, as someone whose help I've built
helped build cybersecurity companies,
I think this is an example
of how
this is not about the First Amendment.
This is about a president
trying to overturn an election
and creating a conspiracy.
This this kind of infrastructure
is considered critical infrastructure.
And it's supposed to be defended.
The Trump
team tried to get access in other places,
and they went through the legal process
and courts gave access
to some of the information.
In this case, they weren't getting it.
So they try to take it themselves.
And to me, it's an it's an indication
of how fragile
our election system is
and how Donald Trump's efforts
were making us increase our lack of trust
in our systems.
And one more example
of why
Donald Trump is running for president
is because he's
trying to stay out of jail.
Because as more of this information
comes out
and as the American people recognizes
the extent of his baggage
there, they're getting sick
and tired of it.
Well, the polls indicate that Republicans
are, though,
because all the polls
I've seen suggest that
most Republicans believe this
lie about the election
that has been fed to them
by not only Donald Trump,
but Fox and other
right wing media
and other people on Capitol Hill
who are lying about the election
being stolen
when obviously we know
that's not the case.
These are the same pollsters
that thought ISSUE one in
Ohio was going to was going to pass
and they ended up getting crushed by 18%
These are the same people
that in 2022 said
Kevin McCarthy was going to have a
40 plus majority in the House
and then ended up in five.
Here's the reality
when I crisscrossed the state
whether I'm in New Hampshire,
Iowa, Texas, California or Alabama,
people come up to me
and they say, hey, you're right
he is wanting to stay out of
out of prison.
So I'm not questioning
his frontrunner status.
But what I am saying is that many people
don't want to see Donald Trump
or Joe
Biden be
the nominees
and people are looking
for something different.
And guess what?
If they want to have these things happen
and if those people want to see
something different,
I need them to go to Hurt for America.
Help me get on the debate stage
so we can talk about these things.
And all I need
is $1 a donation
to make sure I hit those thresholds.
So in order to get on that debate, stage
in two weeks,
you need to hit a polling threshold.
You need to hit a donor threshold.
40,000 donors.
And you need to sign the pledge.
The RNC debate pledge.
You think that you're going
to hit the first two, right?
The polling and the donor threshold?
That's correct.
I'm hoping that
at the end of this conversation,
I can say, you know,
all of the
all the Jake Tapper friends
watching TV helped
put me up with the
help me put over that
40,000 threshold
by going to hurt for America
dot com
But but look Jake I've said it before.
I'm not going to lie
to get access to a microphone.
I've never signed a contract
without making amendments to it.
And an unfortunately
you know
since 2015
I've been one only person in this race
that has been critical of Donald Trump
and talked about
how he's a he's
a national security threat.
And so my goal is to hit
all those requirements
and force the conversation.
And guess what?
Donald Trump hasn't even agreed to sign
the debate pledge.
Donald Trump hasn't even agreed
to show up to the debate.
And it was Donald Trump and his team
that got the RNC to put this loyalty oath
because he wanted
all the other candidates
to bend the knee to him.
I won't do that.
I'm going to be
I've been honest about that.
But again, we're working
hard to hit those other requirements.
Yeah.
Just and just to be clear,
the pledge says that
whoever if you participate in the debate,
you will support whoever the nominee is.
And you're right, Donald Trump said,
I think just yesterday
or maybe the day before
that he's
that he there like three or four people
that he would never support.
So he expressed skepticism.
But that does suggest, though,
that Donald Trump, who has already said
he might not be at the debate anyway,
but that you won't be
on the debate stage.
And is that a campaign ender for,
you know,
what can happen in the next ten days?
And so I want to be able
to force that conversation
and see what happens
And if Donald Trump doesn't participate.
What is the RNC going to do?
So there's a lot of variables
at play here.
My issue is not supporting
the Republican nominee.
My issue is I'm not going to support
Donald Trump.
Donald Trump
is not running for president.
Make America great again.
Donald Trump is running the president
to stay out of prison.
Would you vote for President Biden over
President Trump?
Look, my goal is to be vote for myself.
And that's my plan. And that's plan.
And that's what I'm focused on.
I want to ask about Hunter Biden
because a lot of Republicans,
including former House
colleagues of yours,
and some of your 20, 24 rivals
are blasting
Attorney General Merrick
Garland, the appointment
of the special counsel
David Weiss in the Hunter Biden probe.
They claim
it's a cover up to protect the Bidens,
even though some of them had
previously asked
for ways
to get the special counsel powers.
What do you make of that
and what do you think of the appointment
of the special counsel?
Well, I think a special counsel
should have been appointed in this case.
The question on is
this is the individual that looked like
tried to negotiate a sweetheart deal
for Hunter
Biden on those two other cases.
So the question
that most conservatives have is
he could have used the full
extent of his powers
in order to prosecute this.
Or is this going to be an effort
to shield information going?
What do you think?
Look, time is good to tell.
I've made it very clear
that DOJ should show
a level of transparency
that they've
never shown in their history,
because the sensitivity
of all these cases,
whether it's the documents case
and the January six case
against Donald Trump
or it's it's
what's happening
against against Hunter Biden.
There's a lack of trust
in our institutions.
And the only way you can repair
trust is by showing
a level of transparency.
And that's what is called for
in all of these cases.
And again,
I think the the
the whistleblower that talked about
Hunter Biden
calling his
father when he had
when he had clients on the line.
Here's a reality.
The the inner circle
or the
the immediate family of a president
should not be allowed
to be lobbyists or consultants when when
when their father
or their or their husband
is the president of United States.
Yeah.
I mean,
that call just like I took place in 2017
when Biden went with Joe
Biden was not in office.
I want to ask you about immigration
because you're from
you used to represent a border district.
And just on Thursday
a three year old child who was aboard
a bus of asylum seekers died.
The bus had been headed to Chicago
from Texas as part of Texas
Governor Greg Abbott's program,
sending asylum
seekers who had come into Texas
to Democratic run
cities across the country.
Obviously, a horrible incident.
Do you support
what Governor Abbott is doing
in shipping these migrants
and what about this little boy?
Well, any death is is unacceptable
and we should all be sent from it
and try to prevent that from happening.
But 100 people died
just last
month in Texas
because of the inhumane policies
we always focus on,
because they open borders,
because because of open borders,
because we're not stopping
narco traffickers
and the human smugglers,
because we're not addressing
root causes in places
like the Northern Triangle.
And so we should be upset
about all of this.
And 5.5 million people
coming into the country illegally.
It is unacceptable.
Last year, there was a drowning case
to drowning cases. A couple of weeks ago.
But last year, 141
people drowned in the Rio
Grande in the Rio Grande River.
And nobody was talking about that.
The policies of Joe
Biden are the ones that are inhumane.
He needs to start treating
human smugglers
like terrorist organizations.
We also need to be addressing
the fentanyl issue.
I think fentanyl
is a precursor
element of a weapon of mass destruction.
We should be treating fentanyl
with that level of focus.
And we need to be working with our allies
throughout Central
and South America,
something that Joe Biden
has been incapable of doing.
Oh, and by the way, Donald Trump
was pretty terrible at that.
So these are
these are the things
that we need to be doing.
And also,
these are the conversations
we should be having.
And this is why Americans are sick
and tired
of both Donald Trump and Joe Biden
and all their legal baggage,
because there's a lot more issues
we should be addressing
that we haven't had the chance to do.