THINGS ARE CALM BUT THE TENSIONS REMAIN AS HIGH AS THEY COULD
POSSIBLY BE.
POSSIBLY BE. I HAVE A GREAT TEAM TO BREAK ALL
OF IT DOWN.
I WANT TO TRY TO WALK THROUGH
WHAT HAPPENED.
WHAT HAPPENED. THIS STARTED OUT AS A PEACEFUL
SITUATION THAT GOT OUT OF HAND.
ABOUT 5,000 MIGRANTS HAD BEEN
CAMPED OUT IN TIJUANA.
THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN VERY SLOW.
FRUSTRATED MIGRANTS CHOSE TO
PROTEST THE PROCESS BY HOLDING A
MARCH ON SUNDAY.
MIGRANTS WERE CONFRONTED BY
MEXICAN POLICE LEADING TO
PUSHING AND SHOVING.
SOME SAW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
FORCE THEIR WAY INTO THE UNITED
STATES AND THAT’S WHEN THINGS
REALLY FELL APART.
RUSHING THE BORDER AND TRYING TO
CLIMB THE FENCE.
THE CHIEF OF THE U.S. BORDER
PATROL DESCRIBES WHAT HAPPENED.
>> AGENTS WERE ASSAULTED, A
LARGE GROUP RUSHED THE AREA,
THROWING ROCKS AT MY MEN AND
WOMEN, PUTTING THEM IN HARM’S
WAY.
WAY. WE NEED TO DISPERSE THEM FROM
THE AREA.
THE AREA. >> PROMPTING THE PRESIDENT TO
CLOSE THE BORDER CROSSING FOR
FIVE HOURS.
FIVE HOURS. IT REOPENED ABOUT 5:00 P.M.
LOCAL TIME.
LOCAL TIME. OFFICIALS SAY 39 PEOPLE WERE
ARRESTED ON THE MEXICAN SIDE AND
WE HEARD FROM U.S. BORDER
CONTROL 42 OTHERS MADE IT INTO
THE U.S. BUT WERE ARRESTED.
NO ONE WAS KILLED.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEE WE WILL
NOT SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS
AGAIN.
AGAIN. THIS MORNING, THE PRESIDENT SAID
IT’S UP TO MEXICO TO HANDLE THE
SITUATION, TWEETING, QUOTE,
MEXICO SHOULD MOVE THE FLAG
WAVING MIGRANTS, MANY OF WHOM
ARE STONE COLD CRIMINALS, BACK
TO THEIR COUNTRIES.
THEY ARE NOT COMING INTO THE
U.S.
U.S. CONGRESS, FUND THE WALL.
IN FACT, MEXICO’S INTERIOR
SECRETARY SAYS IT HAS ACTED.
FOLLOWING SUNDAY’S EVENT, IT
SAID UNDER 500 MIGRANTS TRIED
ILLEGALLY TO CROSS THE BORDER.
BUT MEXICO SAYS IT WILL NOT SEND
TROOPS TO DEAL WITH THE
SITUATION.
SITUATION. AT THE BORDER CROSSING.
JULIA AINSLEY HAS BEEN ALL OVER
THIS STORY.
THIS STORY. NBC CHIEF WHITE HOUSE
CORRESPONDENT HALLIE JACKSON
JOINS ME.
JOINS ME. HANS, YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED
THERE YESTERDAY.
THERE YESTERDAY. WHAT EXACTLY WENT DOWN?
AND DO WE THINK MORE OF IT IS
COMING?
COMING? >> THIS IS THE SAN VSIDRO
BORDER.
BORDER. WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY IS THEY
TOOK THESE BARRICADES AND PUT
THEM ACROSS.
THEM ACROSS. WHAT THEY DID WAS TRY TO PREVENT
FOOT TRAFFIC FROM USING THESE
CAR LANES TO BREACH THE BORDER.
AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THE BORDER
IS OPEN.
IS OPEN. YESTERDAY STARTED OFF WITH A
MARCH TOWARDS THE BORDER.
A COUPLE OF HUNDRED OF THOSE
MIGRANTS LIVING INSIDE THE
SHOULDER TRIED TO CROSS OVER A
BRIDGE.
BRIDGE. THEY WERE STOPPED BY FEDERAL
RIOT POLICE FROM THE MEXICAN
GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. YOU DID SEE SOME SKIRMISHES.
THAT’S WHEN THEY WENT DOWN TO
THAT DRY RIVERBED, WHICH DID
HAVE SOME WATER COMING THROUGH
IT.
IT. THE STREMPLGENCH WAS OVERPOWERIN
LIKE RAW HUMAN SEWAGE.
THEY TRIED TO GET CLOSER.
WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WAS
SURRENDER.
SURRENDER. THEY WANTED TO FILE THEIR ASYLUM
CLAIMS IN PERSON.
THEY DIDN’T GET THERE.
AT SOME POINT THERE WAS TEAR GAS
FIRED.
FIRED. THEN THE MIGRANTS WENT UP AND
OVER AND TRIED TO FIND A
DIFFERENT SPOT.
DIFFERENT SPOT. IT’S AT THAT POINT THEY USED --
WE SAW SOME LADDERS IN THERE,
TRYING TO BREACH THE FENCE THAT
WAY, THE U.S. BORDER WALL.
AS YOU SAID, A FEW MAY HAVE
GOTTEN THROUGH.
GOTTEN THROUGH. IT WAS KIND OF CHAOTIC.
A LOT OF MIGRANTS CAME IN THIS
AREA.
AREA. WE SAW SOME UGLY VIOLENCE
BETWEEN TIJUANA BUSINESSES,
AGAIN, THEY SURVIVED ON THE
COMMERCE, THEY NEED THAT TO STAY
IN BUSINESS.
IN BUSINESS. SOME VIOLENCE FROM TIJUANA
RESIDENTS TOWARDS THE MIGRANTS.
THE BORDER WAS OPEN YESTERDAY
AND THESE CROSSINGS NOW ARE UP
AND RUNNING.
AND RUNNING. YOU STILL HAVE 5,000 MIGRANTS.
THE BORDER IS FOUR TO FIVE.
WE DID SEE A LOT OF ASSETS.
IT’S JUST UNCLEAR HOW THIS
RESOLVES ITSELF.
RESOLVES ITSELF. >> MEXICO’S ROLE GOING FORWARD.
THERE HAS BEEN TALK OF A DEAL TO
KEEP THE ASYLUM SEEKERS IN
MEXICO AND NOW IT’S NOT
HAPPENING.
HAPPENING. >> I SPOKE TO SOME U.S.
OFFICIALS WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED
IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS AND THEY
SAY WHAT THEY HADN’T HAMMERED
OUT YET IS WHAT MEXICO WILL
RETURN.
RETURN. THEY WANT INVESTMENT IN THEIR
ECONOMIES.
ECONOMIES. THEY WANT TO SEE THAT HONDURAS,
GUATEMALA AND EL SALVADOR, THE
NORTHERN TRIANGLE OF CENTRAL
AMERICA, GET THE HELP THEY NEED
TO COMBAT POVERTY AND GANG
VIOLENCE.
VIOLENCE. MEXICO GETS THAT IS WHY.
BUT IT IS NOT CLEAR THAT THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS ALSO
GOING TO MAKE THAT ADMISSION AND
GIVE MEXICO WHAT THEY NEED.
THE WAY THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO US
IS LOOK, THE STEEL IS DONE,
WE’RE JUST WORKING ON
OPERATIONAL AND LEGAL,
LOGISTICAL ISSUES.
LOGISTICAL ISSUES. MEXICO IS NOW SAYING NO, WE
DON’T HAVE A DEAL UNTIL WE GET
THAT.
THAT. >> MEXICO IS SAYING THIS IS
ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY, NOT ABOUT
MIGRANTS ONCE THEY GET TO THE
BORDER.
BORDER. THIS SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD FIT
PERFECTLY WITH THE PUSH FOR MORE
BORDER SECURITY.
BORDER SECURITY. YOU’RE SEEING THAT ON BOTH SIDES
OF THE AISLE.
FROM THE GET GO, HE WANTED
FUNDING FOR THAT WALL.
>> YOU’RE TRUEDRAWING AN IMPORTA
DISTINCTION.
DISTINCTION. WITH BORDER WALL FUNDING AND
BORDER SECURITY FUNDING.
>> TWO THINGS.
>> THE PRESIDENT WANTS $5
MILLION FOR A WALL.
AND HE HAS ALSO MADE CLEAR IN
JUST THE LAST WEEK MULTIPLE
TIMES WITH REPORTERS THAT HE IS
WILLING TO LET THE SPECTER OF A
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN LOOM OVER
THESE NEGOTIATIONS.
THESE NEGOTIATIONS. THAT IS SEPARATE FROM BORDER
SECURITY FUNDING.
SECURITY FUNDING. MORE MONEY FOR VARIOUS THINGS
THAT WILL HELP SHORE UP U.S.
DEFENSES ALONG THE BORDER.
SO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
WHAT IS STRIKING IS THE CLOCK
KIND OF IS TICKING.
NOW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS
BEFORE THAT DECEMBER 7th
DEADLINE.
DEADLINE. NEXT FRIDAY, IN LESS THAN TWO
WEEKS, CONGRESS HAS TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO
RELATED TO THE PRESIDENT’S
RAMPED UP DEMAND FOR THIS BORDER
WALL MOPE.
WALL MOPE. THE PRESIDENT HAS TO DECIDE IF
HE REALLY IS GOING TO MOVE ON
HIS THREAT FOR A GOVERNMENT
SHUTDOWN.
SHUTDOWN. >> OR SEPARATE THE TWO, RAMP UP