>> Harris: SO IT IS FRIDAY.
AS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST
COUPLE OF DAYS ABOUT THIS TIME
DURING THE DAY, WE GET MORE
INFORMATION IN THE GOVERNOR
CUOMO SITUATION; PARTICULARLY,
WITH WHAT WAS UNTIL MOMENTS
AGO SIX WOMEN COMING FORWARD
WITH ACCUSATIONS OF SEXUAL
HARASSMENT AND MORE AGAINST
HIM.
NOW, A SEVENTH ACCUSER HAS
COME FORWARD.
"NEW YORK MAGAZINE" REPORTING
A JOURNALIST SAYS -- I WANT
YOU TO LISTEN TO THE QUOTE.
"ANDREW CUOMO HANDS HAVE BEEN
ON MY BODY, MY ARMS, MY
SHOULDERS, THE SMALL OF MY
BACK, THE WAIST OFTEN ENOUGH
BY LATE 2014 I DIDN’T WANT TO
GO TO THE HOLIDAY PARTY HE WAS
HOSTING FOR THE ALBANY PRESS
CORPS AT THE EXECUTIVE
MANSION."
WHY DOES THIS MATTER?
THIS YOUNG WOMAN WAS 25 YEARS
OLD AT THE TIME.
SHE WAS WORKING THE PRESS
CORPS WITH THE GOVERNOR.
THERE WERE VERY FEW AS YOUNG
AS SHE AND VERY FEW WOMEN IN
THE PRESS CORPS AND IT WAS
THEIR JOB -- I QUOTE -- "TO
REPORT ON HIS EVERY MOVE."
SHE WAS GOING TO SKIP THE
PARTY.
SHE THOUGHT IT MIGHT HURT HER
CAREER.
WOULDN’T GIVE HER THE ACCESS
THE OTHER PRESS CORPS HAD.
SO SHE WENT.
AND WHAT SHE THOUGHT MIGHT
HAPPEN DID.
ACCORDING TO THIS REPORT, THE
GOVERNOR GRABBED HER FOR A
PICTURE.
WOULDN’T LET HER GO.
HAD HER BY THE HANDS.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO READ
OUT LOUD.
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, I’M COMING
TO YOU AFTER I SAY THIS.
"HE TURNED TO ME WITH A
MISCHIEVOUS SMILE HIS FACE,
DURING THE PICTURE TAKING, IN
FRONT OF OF ALL MY COLLEAGUES
AND SAID, ," "I’M SORRY.
AM I MAKING YOU UNCOMFORTABLE?
I THOUGHT WELL WERE GOING
STEADY.’"
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE, HE SAID HE
NEVER TOUCHED ANYBODY
INAPPROPRIATELY, DIDN’T MEAN
TO MAKE ANYBODY UNCOMFORTABLE,
WASN’T AWARE IF HE HAD.
APPARENTLY HE HAD AND HE WAS
AWARE ACCORDING TO THIS WOMAN.
>> Mike: I WANT TO BE FAIR
AND SAY THAT HE IS ENTITLED TO
A RESUMPTION PRESUMPTION OF INNO
THE PROCESS OF DUE PROCESS.
HE IS ENTITLED TO THAT.
BUT HE IS NOT ENTITLED TO
PRETEND THAT THERE ARE NOT
SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS FROM
CREDIBLE WITNESSES.
LET ME POINT OUT THAT ALMOST
EVERY ONE OF THE SEVEN
WOMEN -- NOW SEVEN --
CONTINUES TO GROW.
THESE ARE NOT PARTISAN.
THESE ARE NOT REPUBLICANS WHO
HAVE AN AXE TO GRIND ON HIM.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO AT ONE
POINT WORKED FOR HIM.
THEY BELIEVED IN HIM.
THEY WANTED TO BE ON HIS
STAFF.
IN THIS CASE, A MEMBER OF THE
PRESS.
SOMEBODY THAT CERTAINLY HAS NO
REASON TO JUST WANT TO GO
AFTER ANDREW CUOMO.
THERE IS NO INDICATION SHE IS
A PARTISAN.
BUT THEY ARE BEGINNING TO FIND
THEIR COURAGE, INCREASINGLY
SO.
AND THAT IS WHY I’M GOING TO
REPEAT WHAT I SAID BEFORE.
IT’S OVER FOR HIM.
IT’S OVER.
IT’S NOT A MATTER THAT HE
STILL HAS A RIGHT FOR DUE
PROCESS AND PRESUMPTION OF
INNOCENCE, IN THE CRIMINAL
PROCESS, BUT HE DOES NOT
NECESSARILY CONTINUE TO HAVE
THE MORAL AUTHORITY OR THE
CAPACITY TO GOVERN WHEN THIS
MANY ALLOCATIONS COME AGAINST
HIM AND HIS OWN PARTY HAS
ABANDONED HIM AND LEFT HIM TO
HIMSELF.
>> Harris: WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING ABOUT THE DUE PROCESS
AND THE FAIRNESS OF THE LAW
AND INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN
GUILTY AND ALL OF THAT, THIS
IS POLITICS.
SO YOU MAKE SUCH AN IMPORTANT
POINT.
WE ARE NOT SAYING SET ASIDE
ALL OF THAT AND DON’T LOOK FOR
THE EVIDENCE AND DON’T
INVESTIGATE.
ABSOLUTELY YOU HAVE TO DO ALL
OF THAT.
YOU LISTEN TO THE WOMEN AND
THEN YOU INVESTIGATE AND YOU
MATCH THAT UP.
POLITICALLY WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING IS FOR HIM IT’S OVER.
IT’S OVER BECAUSE THIS NOW IS
OVERTAKING EVERYTHING ELSE HE
IS DOING.
LESLIE, WE HAVE JUST FOUND OUT
THAT GOVERNOR CUOMO PLANS TO
UPDATE NEW YORKERS ON THE
STATE COVID-19 RESPONSE AND
MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN ABOUT
30 MINUTES.
YOUR RESPONSE, YOUR THOUGHT AS
NOW A SEVENTH ACCUSER HAS COME
FORWARD?
>> Leslie: GOVERNOR
HUCKABEE, YOU AND I RARELY
AGREE BUT THIS IS ONE TIME
THAT I AGREE 100% WITH WHAT
YOU HAVE SAID.
DUE PROCESS.
PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE.
AS YOU SAID, HARRIS, LET THE
INVESTIGATION PLAY OUT.
BUT THE PROBLEM AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER TODAY IS THAT HE IS IN
A POSITION WHERE HE CAN NO
LONGER GOVERN.
IN 30 MINUTES, WHAT HE IS
DOING IS PERHAPS TRYING TO PUT
SOME POSITIVE INFORMATION OUT
THERE, LOOK LIKE HE CAN
CONTINUE TO GOVERN AND
CERTAINLY PROVIDE A
DISTRACTION.
YOU KNOW, HARRIS, I MENTIONED
TO YOU THAT I HAVE BEEN A
VICTIM OF HARASSMENT.
ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU AND
EVERY VICTIM CAN TELL YOU AND
YOU DON’T NEED TO BE A VICTIM
TO KNOW, DEMOCRATS ARE
REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS AND MEN
AND WOMEN, MOSTLY MEN SADLY
AND MEN IN POWER.
WHATWHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A
PATTERN OF THE PREDATORY
BEHAVIOR AND USING THAT POWER
KNOWING THAT SOME OF THE
INDIVIDUALS LIKE THE LATEST
VICTIM, THE 7th VICTIM WHO
HAS WRITTEN HER ACCOUNT AND
WOMEN OFTEN FEEL, NOT JUST IN
THE POLITICAL REALMS.
MY PREDATOR WAS NOT A
POLITICIAN.
BUT WAS MY BOSS.
I HAVE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW,
WHEN I HEAR THIS, THIS BRINGS
BACK SOME REALLY NASTY
MEMORIES.
JUST HOW MANY YEARS AND HOW
MANY WOMEN OUT THERE HAVE BEEN
SUBJECTED TO THIS AND HAVE
REMAINED SILENT BECAUSE SHE
WROTE IT SO BEAUTIFULLY AND SO
HONESTLY.
AND I CAN RELATE TO IT.
I GOT TO TELL YOU, YOU DON’T
WANT TO GO TO THE MEETING WITH
THAT INDIVIDUAL.
YOU DON’T WANT TO GO TO THE
PARTY.
BUT YOU FEAR IT WILL HURT YOUR
CAREER IF YOU DON’T.
YOU ARE DAMNED IF YOU DO AND
DAMNED IF YOU DON’T BECAUSE
THIS PERSON, ALLEGED PREDATOR
IN THIS SITUATION HAS THE
POWER AND HOLDS THE CARDS TO
YOUR FUTURE POWER.
>> Harris: THANK YOU FOR
SHARING WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN
THROUGH.
I KNOW IT NEVER GETS EASIER.
I HAVE KNOWN YOU A LONG TIME.
"NEW YORK MAGAZINE" TALKING TO
THE YOUNG WOMAN AND HERE IS
WHAT SHE GOES ON TO SAY.
"I NEVER THOUGHT THE GOVERNOR
WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ME,"
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT LESLIE
IS TALKING ABOUT.
IT WASN’T ABOUT THAT.
IT WAS ABOUT POWER.
TOMI?
>> Tomi: I HAVE NEVER NEVER
GONE THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE
MYSELF BUT AS A YOUNG WOMAN IN
THIS KIND OF AN INDUSTRY I CAN
CERTAINLY FEEL FOR HER AND I
DO BELIEVE HER WORDS ARE
GENUINE AND IT WAS BRAVE AND
BOLD OF HER TO COME FORWARD.
AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT THE
GOVERNOR SAID.
I THINK THAT HIS POLITICAL
CAREER IS OVER BUT I THINK
THERE NEEDS TO BE AN
INVESTIGATION.
WHETHER HE HAS THE GOOD SENSE
TO RESIGN OR NOT, IT STILL
NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION.
THE WOMEN NEED TO BE HEARD.
WE NEED TO LOOK IN THE NURSING
HOME SCANDAL AND RESIGNING
WON’T MAKE IT GO AWAY.
WE ARE OWED TO THE VICTIMS OF
THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND ALSO
THE VICTIMS OF THE NURSING
HOME SCANDAL.
EVERYONE DESERVES ANSWERS
HERE.
YOU HOPE THAT WE’LL GET THEM.
THEY DESERVE THAT MUCH.
>> Harris: SO, EMILY, WHAT
IS THE PROCESS NOW?
>> Emily: IN TERMS OF THIS,
LOOK, THE FORCIBLE TOUCHING
ELEMENT WE TALKED ABOUT
EARLIER HAS TO DO WITH
INTIMATE BODY PARTS.
FROM WHAT I HAVE READ THUS FAR
UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES AT
THE END OF THE ARTICLE.
IT’S BREAKING AND I HAVEN’T
GOT TO THE END OF IT BUT IT
DOESN’T APPEAR IT’S GOING TO
FALL TO FORCIBLE TOUCHING.
BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE
ALLEGATION OF SEXUAL HARASS IN
THE THE WORKPLACE AND AN
ALLEGATION OF THE FORCIBLE
TOUCHING, CRIME AND A
MISDEMEANOR IN THE STATE OF
NEW YORK.
TWO ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION OF
INAPPROPRIATE TOUCHING FROM
NONEMPLOYEES.
THIS JOURNALIST AND THEN FROM
PRIOR WOMAN BEFORE.
SO, AS OF YET, IT’S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ALBANY
POLICE DO NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL
REFERRAL.
HOWEVER, THEY CAN REFER TO THE
D.A. THEMSELVES.
SO IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN
WHETHER THE CRIMINAL CHARGES
WILL BE FILED.
IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHETHER
THE CIVIL CHARGES WILL BE
FILED.
WHETHER A LAWSUIT WILL BE
FILED.
I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I
AGREE WITH YOU THAT THIS
ARTICLE IS WRITTEN
BEAUTIFULLY.
THE WORDS OF THIS WOMAN HERE
RESONATING TO THE LESLIE’S
POINT ABOUT TRIGGERING FOR
MANY WHO HAS BEEN THROUGH
THESE.
SHE SAID, "I MADE REFLEXIVE
ASSESSMENT AS THE HAND WERE ON
HER THAT MOST WOMEN AND
MARGINALIZED PEOPLE KNOW
INSTINCTIVELY THE CALCULATION
OF RISK AND POWER AND
SELF-PRESERVATION.
I KNEW IT WOULD FAR EASIER TO
SMILE FOR THE BRIEF MOMENT TO
SNAP A PICTURE THAN TO
CHALLENGE ONE OF THE MOST
POWERFUL MEN IN THE COUNTRY."
WE HAVE HEARD THIS THEME.
WE HAVE HEARD THE THEME FROM
THE PRIOR ACCUSER WHO SAID I
WASN’T GOING TO SPEAK UP UNTIL
I HEARD THE OTHER WOMEN SPEAK
UP.
IT WAS THEN I FELT MAYBE MY
LIFE WON’T BE DESTROYED.
MAYBE PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY
BELIEVE ME.
MAYBE I WON’T BE THREATENED
WITH THE DEATH AND THE CAREER
ASSASSINATION AND EVERYTHING
ELSE HAPPENS IN THIS COUNTRY
WHEN THE POLITICAL, POWERFUL
MEN ARE ACCUSED.
THERE ARE STRENGTHS IN NUMBERS
NOW.
SIMPLY BECAUSE APPARENTLY ONE
ISN’T ENOUGH AT THIS POINT IN
OUR COUNTRY IN THE ARTICLE
SUMS UP BEAUTIFULLY.
>> Harris: WE SAW THE SAME
THING HAPPEN, EMILY, WITH THE
NURSING HOME SCANDAL.
I HOME JANICE DEAN AND OTHERS
BEGAN TO -- I MEAN JANICE DEAN
AND OTHERS BEGAN TO BEAT THE
GROUND.
WE BROUGHT IN ON "OUTNUMBERED
OVERTIME" AT THE TIME A NURSE
WHO HAD COME DOWN VERY YOUNG
AND HAD SEEN SOME STUFF BEHIND
THE SCENES AND HAD PICTURES OF
THE P.P.E. SHE WAS USING EVERY
DAY, EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY
BECAUSE IT WASN’T BEING GIVEN
TO THEM.
THE NURSING HOME SHE HAD BEEN
ASSIGNED TO HELP OUT.
PEOPLE COMING FROM OTHER STATE
AT THE GOVERNOR’S REQUEST.
HELP OUT.
THEY WERE STEADY FLOWING.
POSITIVE CASES OF THE COVID IN
TO THE MOST VULNERABLE
ENVIRONMENTS.
SO IT TOOK A LOT OF VOICES.
I TOOK A DEMOCRAT AMONG THOSE
ON THE NEW YORK ASSEMBLY RON
KIM TO COME FORWARD AGAINST
THE GOVERNOR AND SAY HE WAS
BULLIED.
AND HAVING TO DO WITH WHAT HE
CALLED THE COVERUP OF THE
NUMBERS AND ALL OF THAT IN THE
NURSING HOME SCANDAL.
IT TOOK MORE VOICES.
I WANT TO WEDNESDAY THE YOUNG
WOMAN AND WE WILL MOVE ON.
SHE SAYS JOURNALISTS ARE OFTEN
TOLD NOT TO LET THEMSELVES
BECOME PART OF THE STORY.
MORE THAN FIVE YEARS AGO I
LEFT ALBANY FOR A NEW JOB IN
FLORIDA.
BUT MANY OF MY FORMER
COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS ARE
STILL THERE TRYING TO RETAIN
OBJECTIVITY.
EVERYONE AFTER ENDURING
HARASSMENT.
SO SHE -- EVEN AFTER ENDURING
HARASSMENT.
SHE INDICATES THAT THERE ARE
MORE.
SHE SAYS, "I CAN SPEAK OUT