COMPAGNO, GERALDO RIVERA, GREG
GUTFELD AND THIS IS "THE FIVE."
AMERICA IS REELING FROM A SURGE
IN VIOLENCE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THE PRESIDENT IN BUFFALO, NEW
YORK TODAY AFTER THE TRAGIC MASS
SHOOTING THERE THAT CLAIMED THE
LIVES OF 10 PEOPLE.
BIDEN HONORING THE VICTIMS WHILE
CONDEMNING THE HATEFUL ATTACK
AND CALLING FOR MORE GUN
CONTROL.
>> WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS SIMPLE
AND STATE FORWARD.
TERRORISM.
DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
WHITE SUPREMACY IS A POISON AND
IT’S BEEN ALLOWED TO FESTER AND
GROW RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR EYES.
WE NEED TO SAY AS CLEARLY AND
FORCEFULLY AS WE CAN, THAT THE
IDEOLOGY OF WHITE SUPREMACY HAS
NO PLACE IN AMERICA.
THERE’S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE
CAN DO.
WE CAN KEEP ASSAULT WEAPONS OFF
OUR STREETS.
WE’VE DONE IT BEFORE.
I DID IT WHEN WE PASSED THE
CRIME BILL LAST TIME AND
VIOLENCE WENT DOWN.
SHOOTINGS WENT DOWN.
>> Dana: COMES AMID AN ENORMOUS
SURGE OF VIOLENCE OVER THE
WEEKEND.
17 PEOPLE WERE SHOT IN A SINGLE
INCIDENT IN DOWNTOWN MILWAUKEE.
IN CHICAGO, AT LEAST 33 PEOPLE
WERE SHOT AND FIVE FATALLY SO.
CHICAGO MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT
BANNING UNACCOMPANIED MINORS
FROM MILLENNIUM PARK IN THE WAKE
OF A 16-YEAR-OLD’S FATAL
SHOOTING THERE AND GUN HOMICIDES
REACHING THEIR HIGHEST LEVEL IN
25 YEARS DURING THE COVID
PANDEMIC.
SO LOTS TO GET TO ON THIS
PARTICULAR TOPIC AND THE REST OF
THE SHOW.
JESSE, WHERE DO YOU LAND ON
THERE’S A CRIME THAT HAPPENED,
THE MASSACRE IN BUFFALO AND THEN
THERE’S THIS ADDITIONAL CRIME
THAT WE SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I’M NOT SAYING THEY’RE THE SAME.
BUT YOU HAVE THIS STORY THAT IS
SO TRAGIC UP THERE AND THE
PRESIDENT GOES TO VISIT AND THEN
YOU HAVE THESE OTHER STORIES
WHERE YOU DON’T GET A VISIT.
>> Jesse: HE PLAYS PEEK-A-BOO
WITH HATE CRIME, RIGHT?
IF IT’S A BLACK SUPREMACIST
CLOSES HIS EYES, WHITE
SUPREMACIST, HE GOES BEAST MODE
AND CAMPAIGNS ON IT.
SAME THING WITH STREET CRIME.
IF IT’S BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, HE
IGNORES IT.
IF THERE’S A WHITE POLICE
OFFICER INVOLVED, HE’S GETTING
THE BULLHORN OUT AND IN CAMPAIGN
MODE.
I WAS WALKING TO WORK TODAY,
BEAUTIFUL DAY HERE IN NEW YORK.
AND I SAW THESE JUNIOR HIGH
SCHOOL KIDS.
BLACK KID, WHITE KID, SPANISH
KID AND THEY’RE ALL JUST HOLDING
EACH OTHER’S SHOULDERS WALKING
DOWN FIFTH AVENUE ACROSS FROM
THE PARK.
AND IT’S JUST A NICE THING TO
SEE, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY
GRADUATE AND GO TO COLLEGE AND
THEY GET IN THE WORK FORCE AND
THEIR MINDS JUST GET POISONED BY
THESE POLITICIANS AND PUNDITS
BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING.
JOE BIDEN TRIES TO MAKE BLACK
PEOPLE SCARED AND WHITE PEOPLE
FEEL GUILTY.
IT’S THIS EMOTIONAL GRIP THAT HE
TRIES TO PUT ON THE COUNTRY
BECAUSE IT’S GOOD FOR DEMOCRAT
PARTY POLITICS.
AND AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WAKING
UP TO THIS.
I THINK WE SEE THE MORE WE STUDY
THESE CRIMES AND HOW THEY’RE
COVERED AND HOW THEY’RE
EXPLOITED BY POLITICIANS THAT
THESE POLITICIANS ARE JUST
TRYING TO CHOP US UP INTO
DIFFERENT GROUPS, PIT US AGAINST
EACH OTHER AND GET AWAY WITH
EVERYTHING THEY CAN FOR
POLITICAL POWER.
WE’RE DONE WITH IT.
I DON’T LIKE TO BE LECTURED BY A
GUY LIKE JOE BIDEN WHOSE SON
USES THE N WORD THAT PALS AROUND
WITH SEGREGATIONISTS AND
KLANSMEN AND HAD EVERY POSITION
ON CRIME THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY
IMAGINE.
HE SWOOPS IN AND NOW THE SOUL OF
THE NATION?
GIVE ME A BREAK.
ON THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT HOW
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED,
NEW YORK HAS THIS RED FLAG LAW
SO THIS GUY SAYS HE’S GOING TO
SHOOT UP A SCHOOL AND HE’S
SUICIDAL AND THEY INTERVIEW HIM
AT THE SCHOOL AND THEN THEY SEND
HIM TO A PSYCH WARD AND THE
POLICE INTERVIEW HIM.
I DON’T KNOW.
AND THEY RELEASE HIM AND HE GOES
AND SHOOTS UP THIS SHOPPING
CENTER.
THEY DIDN’T TAKE AWAY HIS GUN.
THEY DIDN’T LOOK AT WHAT HE WAS
LOOKING ON AT THE INTERNET.
I MEAN, BANG-UP JOB.
THEIR RED FLAG LAWS AREN’T EVEN
EFFECTIVE.
THEIR GUN LAWS AREN’T EVEN
EFFECTIVE.
SO YOU GOT TO REALLY JUST TAKE A
BROADER LOOK AT THESE THINGS.
THIS GUY WAS RADICALIZED ON THE
INTERNET DURING THE COVID
LOCKDOWNS.
DURING THESE STUPID FAUCI
LOCKDOWNS THAT DID NOTHING.
AND HIS FAMILY MISSED IT.
THE SCHOOL MISSED IT.
THE POLICE MISSED IT.
WE ALL MISSED IT AND HE’S AN
UGLY KILLER AND I HOPE HE GETS
FRIED.
>> Dana: GERALDO?
>> Geraldo: THEY DON’T FRY HIM
IN NEW YORK.
>> Jesse: THEY SHOULD.
>> Geraldo: CAN I TELL YOU ABOUT
A DINNER I HAD WITH PRESIDENT
TRUMP THE DAY AFTER THE PARKLAND
SCHOOL MASSACRE?
HE AND THE FIRST LADY HAD JUST
VISITED THE VICTIMS IN THE
HOSPITAL.
HE CAME TO THE DINNER.
HE WAS RATTLED.
IT WAS A PRIVATE DINNER.
ERIC AND DON JR. WERE THERE AND
LAURA.
BUT IT WAS JUST US.
AND WE WERE REALLY HEAD TO HEAD.
THE PRESIDENT ASKED WHAT CAN I
DO?
THOSE WOUNDS WERE HORRIBLE.
THE RIFLE THAT CRUZ HAD USED TO
KILL THESE 17 KIDS WAS THESE
WOUNDS LOOKED LIKE WAR VICTIMS.
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS,
YOU KNOW, UNDERAGED.
WHY DON’T YOU PASS A JUVENILE
ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN?
A JUVENILE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN.
IF YOU CAN’T BUY A BEER, YOU
CAN’T BUY AN A.R.
IF YOU CAN’T DRIVE A SEMI, YOU
CAN’T HAVE AN ASSAULT WEAPON.
WHAT’S WRONG WITH THAT?
THE PRESIDENT LIKED THE IDEA.
HE SAID I’M NOT AFRAID OF THE
N.R.A.
COUPLE OF DAYS PASSED AND IT
TURNS OUT HE WAS AFRAID OF THE
N.R.A.
I THINK THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
NOW TO GET ANY KIND OF
MEANINGFUL GUN CONTROL
LEGISLATION PASSED.
I THINK THE COUNTRY HAS GONE
CRAZY, DRUNK.
WE’RE HOOKED ON WEAPONS.
MORE WEAPONS NOW THAN THERE ARE
AMERICANS OUT THERE.
WHAT SURPRISES ME ISN’T HOW
FREQUENT THESE INCIDENTS OF MASS
KILLINGS ARE, IT IS HOW
INFREQUENT THEY ARE GIVEN THE
FACT THAT THERE ARE SO MANY
WEAPONS OUT THERE AND THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PUT EXTENDED
MAGAZINES AND WEAR BODY ARMOR
AND HAVE A HELMET, YOU KNOW,
BALLISTIC HEAD TO TOE.
>> Dana: I THINK, THOUGH, THAT
EMILY GETS TO THE POINT, THAT WE
HAVE THESE PROCESSES AND EITHER
THE FAMILY OR SCHOOL ALERTS
AUTHORITIES.
HE GOES TO THE HOSPITAL FOR A
MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION.
NOTHING IS PUT IN HIS FILE.
WE KNOW THAT FROM -- DURING THE
COVID LOCKDOWN HE WAS
INCREASINGLY ISOLATED.
HE DIDN’T EVEN WANT TO GO TO
SCHOOL WHEN IT OPENED.
HE DECIDED TO STAY HOME AND THEN
HE GOES AND BUYS A GUN WHEN THE
OWNER OF THE GUN SHOP DOES THE
BACKGROUND CHECK, NOTHING COMES
UP.
>> Emily: RIGHT, I THINK WHAT
ACTUALLY WAS THE AREA IN THIS
PARTICULAR SITUATION WITH THE
OPACITY OF THE HOSPITAL RECORDS.
TO THIS DAY REFUSE TO CONFIRM OR
GIVE TRANSPARENCY TO.
IF ANYTHING, GIVEN THE HIGH
STAKE CONSEQUENCES,
POSSIBILITIES OF SUCH, IT
DOESN’T MATTER IF HE’S A
JUVENILE.
THOSE RECORDS SHOULD BE
AVAILABLE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR
THOSE RUNNING A BACKGROUND
CHECK.
GERALDO, YOU’RE SAYING THERE’S
MORE GUNS THAN PEOPLE, WE SHOULD
SUPPORT THOSE LAWFULLY OWNING
THEM AND THOSE PUTTING THEIR
LIFE ON THE LINE EVERY DAY TO
CONTROL CRIME RATHER THAN
REGULATE IT AND TAKE IT AWAY
FROM THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.
I AGLEE WITH YOU, JESSE, THIS
PRESIDENT HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE
PLACE.
EVEN NOW WHEN HE’S TALKING ABOUT
ISSUING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR
POLICE REFORM AND CRIMINAL
JUSTICE, HE’S ABSOLUTELY IN THE
WRONG AREASONNAS WHEN 7 IN 8 ARE
YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN, WHY
IS HE ONLY FOCUSING ON THE GUN
REGULATOR BEING FOR RACIAL
BIASSED HATE CRIMES?
IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE MINORITYS
IN AMERICA, YOU WOULD CARE ABOUT
THE BLACK ON BLACK CRIME THAT’S
PLAGUING OUR INNER CITIES THAT
THE D.A.’S THAT ARE INCOMPETENT
ARE DOING NOTHING TO TRY TO
PREVENT BECAUSE THEY’RE STAYING
WITH SERVICE TO THIS PROGRESSIVE
WOKE LEFT THAT DON’T KNOW WHAT
THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> Dana: DO YOU WANT TO ZOOM OUT
ABOUT THE WAY THAT CRIME HAS
APPROACHED, THE WAY THAT PEOPLE
LOOK AT IT.
>> Greg: ZOOM OUT.
I SHALL ZOOM OUT.
THERE ARE 330, 340 MILLION
PEOPLE IN AMERICA.
THERE’S ONLY ONE PRESIDENT.
AND THIS PRESIDENT SAYS THAT
AMERICAN DEMOCRACIES IS ITS
GREATEST DANGER IN 80 YEARS.
WHO’S PRESIDENT?
HE IS, YOU KNOW, HE HAS THE
WHITE HOUSE.
HE HAS THE HOUSE.
HE HAS THE SENATE.
AND WE HAVE THE GREATEST THREAT
TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY WHILE HE’S
PRESIDENT WHEN HE WAS CLAIMING
TO UNIFY US AND TO CREATE A
SENSE OF NORMALCY.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
WHY IS THERE A STATISTIC OF 78%
OF AMERICA THINKING WE’RE GOING
IN THE WRONG DIRECTION?
IT’S HIM.
HE’S CREATED, HE’S REPLACED
PATRIOTISM WITH IDENTITY
POLITICS.
WE’RE NOT HAVING IT ANYMORE.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
CRIME IN BUFFALO.
THIS HAS TO DO HOW PEOPLE ARE SO
FRUSTRATED SO WHAT DO YOU SEE
AFTER BUFFALO?
OR ANY OF THESE MAJOR MASS
MURDERS?
YOU DON’T SEE THE FAILED
POLICIES THAT LED TO THE CRIME,
RIGHT, THE BUFFALO SHOOTER WAS
PREDETECTED AND IMPRISONED AND
LET GO.
SO WHY IS THAT IN COMMON WITH
ALL THE OTHER CRIMES THAT WE
MENTIONED?
WE PUT A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE
BEHIND BARS AND THEY’RE OUT.
HE’S JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER
CRIMINALS.
ALL OF THE OTHER BENEFACTORS OF
THE NO CASH BAIL.
AND THE MEDIA AND THE DEMOCRATS
LACK THE ABILITY TO HANDLE
MULTIPLE VARIABLES BECAUSE THEY
LACK A MENTAL DASHBOARD.
THEY’RE LIKE A PILOT THAT
DOESN’T FLY BY THE CONTROLS.
SO WHENEVER THERE’S A PROBLEM,
THEY ONLY SEE WHAT’S AROUND
THEM, RIGHT, THEY ONLY SEE THEIR
PEERS IN THE NEWSROOM.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY
LISTEN TO.
THE REASON WHY "THE FIVE" HAS
BEEN CONSISTENTLY SUCCESSFUL IN
PREDICTING ALMOST EVERY MAJOR
ISSUE IS BECAUSE WE POSSESS A
MENTAL DASHBOARD.
WE HAVE -- WE’RE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND STATISTICS,
PROBABILITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT
EXPERIENCE.
SO WHEN WE SAW NO CASH BAIL COME
OUT WHETHER IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE
YEARS AGO, WE SAID THIS THING IS
GOING TO SUCK.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE OF RECIDIVISM AND THE
PROBABILITY OF SOMEONE
RECOMMITTING CRIMES.
STATISTICS SHOW THIS, RIGHT?
LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE TELLS
YOU THIS.
NONE OF THE PROGRESSIVES AND
MEDIA ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THESE
STATISTICS BECAUSE THEY DON’T
HAVE THE MENTAL DASHBOARD,
RIGHT?
THEY’RE A PLANE FLYING BLIND
WITH ONE VARIABLE AND THAT
VARIABLE IS ONLY WHAT CAN BE
CONSTRUED AS RACISM.
WHAT THEY DO IS LET CRIMINALS
OUT.
KEEPING THEM IN IS RACIST.
THEY JUSTIFY RIOTS AS A FORM OF
PROTEST BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T SAY
THAT, THAT’S RACIST.
WHAT YOU HAVE IS A FERGUSON
EFFECT THAT CAUSES THE DECLINE
IN ARRESTS AND INCREASE IN SMASH
AND GRAB CRIMES, MURDER, GANG
CRIME, ALL THESE THINGS RESULT
FROM AN INABILITY TO SEE THE
ROOT CAUSES THESE VARIABLES.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
FOR SO LONG, WE UNDERSTAND THIS.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU OPERATE
BY ONE STATISTIC OR ONE BELIEF
AND ONE BELIEF ONLY AND ONE
FILTER, YOU ARE GOING TO BE
WRONG.
PEOPLE SHOULD BE BEHIND BARS
AREN’T OR INSTITUTIONALIZED,
THEY AREN’T.
JUSTIFY RIOTS AS RETRIBUTION
THAT ULTIMATELY LEADS TO SO MUCH
MORE CRIME.
BUT THE WORST THING ABOUT IT IS
BIDEN IS INCAPABLE AND
INCOHERENT TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
HE DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE
VARIABLE.
THE ONLY VARIABLE HE OPERATES
NOW IS ON THE IDENTITY POLITICS,
RACE AND THAT’S ALL HE CAN SAY.
AND THAT’S WHY WHEN PEOPLE
LISTEN TO HIM, THEY DON’T
LISTEN.
THEY DON’T LISTEN.
80% OF THE COUNTRY SAYS DUDE,
HE’S TAKEN US TO A CLIFF.
AND I THINK TUCKER WAS PRETTY
DAMN GOOD LAST NIGHT WHEN HE
TALKED ABOUT RWANDA.
WHERE CAN IDENTITY POLITICS TAKE
YOU?
DOESN’T TAKE YOU ANY PLACE GOOD.
THAT’S MY --
>> Geraldo: CAN I SAY ONE LITTLE
THING?
>> Greg: HERE WE GO.
>> Geraldo: I THINK WHAT
ABOUT-ISM LEADS US NOWHERE?
WHAT ABOUT CHICAGO, 33 SHOT OVER
THE WEEKEND, FIVE KILLED.
WHAT ABOUT PHILLY, TWO PREGNANT
WOMEN.
WHAT ABOUT THE BRONX, THE
11-YEAR-OLD?
WHAT ABOUT?
THAT DOES NOT ALTER THE FACT
THAT WHAT HAPPENED IN BUFFALO
WAS A WHITE RACIST MASS MURDER
OF MOSTLY BLACK PEOPLE.
AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS TRUE THAT
YOU SAID, GREG.
>> Greg: I DIDN’T EVEN SAY THAT.
THAT ISN’T THERE.
YOU’RE REDEFINING WHAT I SAID,
GERALDO.
PLEASE DON’T DO THAT.
WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT IS
CONTEXT.
IF YOU DON’T LIKE CONTEXT,
THAT’S YOUR ISSUE.
>> Geraldo: IF YOU DON’T LIKE TO
TALK ABOUT WHITE RACISM, THEN
THE REST OF IT --
>> Greg: WHAT DID I SAY?
NO, NO, NO, NO!
I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW A CRIME
COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED AND
ALL OF THESE COULD HAVE BEEN
PREVENTED.
THAT’S THE STRING IN ALL THESE.
I NEVER DISOWNED THE FACT THAT
THE GUY IS RACIST.
>> Dana: I THINK THE FACT THAT
IS FRUSTRATING AND WHY YOU HAVE