Kevin: This is my kind of pop, guys
Umu: So ELRIS is a five-member girl group that debuted in 2017 under Hunus entertainment
The members range ages 15 to 18
Naoki: Oh wow (Stephen: Wow) So young
U: This song pow-pow is written by mono tree(?) and mega tone
So we've actually heard songs composed by them before they've done a lot of Loona and Red Velvet songs, so yeah go ahead
Lindsey: Woah that was kinda cool, just like the random words Fiona: Yeah
Theres like, not their voices and I was like *what*
K: This is my kind of pop guys
Peyton: Oh I like this, the guitar sound
*vocalises guitar sound*
P: Woah N: That's a cool contrast S: Yep
Olivia: Is that a sequence? *satisfied aaaa*
Aaron: I like their use of accents to like throw the meter around
Henry: Songwriting is good, but the
The texture is a little bit overbearing
F: The trebles are really really high really on this one (L: Really high) Yeah
It's like that bass is like not bass; its like the middle
Charlotte: Seems so strange because it goes into this like *bops along*
And it's like *mimics electric guitar* and then its like *continues soft bop*
L: Your guitars are vvery prominent on this (F: Yeah) It's like
F: The guitar is the bass?
Gwen: But I don't like the singing U: Like the timbre?
G: Yeah, it's too its too childlike for my personal taste which is becoming a theme
N: Oh, I really like this part *mimics descending line*
That scale-wise motion
E: Now we're going through a lot of different keys *chuckles* we just went through like four
N: That crunch S: In all honesty, some of like what they do, it almost reminds me of
A theme idea for like a superhero cartoon or something like that N: *laughs*
Superhero cartoon S: Just being real
K: I don't think brass will ever become a cliche in kpop if its used well. I'm just gonna put that out there
I can't see a date where I'm just like 'oh, its brass again!'
F: It kind of feels like you're underwater in a video game
it's like oh- L: I'm surprised, the hemiola thing again, they go *vocalises*
G: I think I would like this song a lot more
If the voices were like this more less kind of like scream shouted and more- It's not even that the voice is light
H: Even hers is just like (G:I'm not even, I'm like)
It's very nasal, it's very child like (G: Yeah)
K: gotta love that V/VI
Listen to that rap verse. There's like a vocal line over it I mean *snaps and claps to the rhythm* you can't say no man
H: Oh yeah, I like the way that they went from the interlude back into this sort of like pre-chorus-y section
It's kind of like a vamp right now
*chuckles as Fiona shows up*
Emeil: Hey :(
K: Okay, I get it, so they're all doing things that
Explode
Because love is a volcano *the more you know look*
P: It is kind of (C: *aww*)
It also has like a fifties, like, show tune swing vibe to it too. It's very slight, but it's in there
J: And the instrumentation they're using is definitely pretty awesome
"maximalist" as we say cause there is just like so much going on
K: What!?
C: Pow. It ends on the Pow
Cause its called Pow Pow C&P: *chuckles*
I: Wow that was like, that was an interesting ending. I think it didn't quite end
K: *vocalising and mimicing tune on piano* Are we gonna add a note? Nope. What?
K, I, U: *chuckles*
I: It's like you have volcano you go POW but shouldn't go like
The chord progression has to follow along :( Otherwise it's just like *vocalises*
Like a question mark, kind of leaves it (K: It does feel like a question mark) Yeah
K: I don't know though,
It's so cool when pop music doesn't follow
you know? It doesn't end in tonic or
It doesn't, you know some pop music like to end the dominant just to be like *hehehe* but um
I: *chuckles*
K: When a song does this I'm like: 'that's what pop music is for'
And untrained listeners won't even recognize you just be like yeah, that's how it ends
U: To sum up your thoughts about this song musically, what'd you think
And how do you think the music represented what was going on in the video?
aaron: The trumpet section it adds to the (Olivia: The playful fun)
The overall like feel of the piece of like that *vocalises*
Olivia: POW (Aaron: Yeah like, mm POW) mm POW
A: I feel like you'd see this in like a
Section of a movie or something. It just sounded like applied chords
It didn't sound like there was any mixture O: But there was a lot of sequence
Yeah, there was definitely sequences in there and because, and like it was cool because it was after each section
There'd be like a like a riff, a break, of like a sequence into the new key
So you like kind of hop off the sequence train
A: Like, the scales down and then like the next scale down and a different key
And then another one and then another one
F: So here's the spectrum of bass to ... (Both: Treble)
It was literally like in the top quadrant
Like it was really high the whole time L: There wasn't really even like much of a bass sound in the background so
F: Like there was a guitar (L: It was probably there) at one point and then a bass guitar but like
L: It was probably there but it wasn't that noticable
F: I think just like the highness of the range, it just like went with their voices
And also it really contrasted whenever it was like series voice going like
Volcano and its like, oh a normal person's voice compared to their's it like made it like really
Obvious like how ^up high they are^ and ^cute^
U: Alright so to summarize your thoughts on this song you like the melodic and harmonic
Material but you'd rather they use different textures for the instrumentals and such
H: Yeah, and it's nitpick-y
You know I mean we're really g- like I feel like it especially the past few videos we put out
We've really been digging into songwriting techniques and the ways that things can like the way that
After effects and after mastering and the musical decisions that go into actually composing the song
Affect the original musical product and so this is sort of this has like,
Post-production things that are somewhat problematic, like the way that things are maybe mixed or the way that things are balanced and the
specific kinds of synths or instruments that they used,
That sort of take away from the fact that this is actually a very interesting song in my opinion
It dared a little bit more than songs that sort of "sound" like this just a physical sounding like it
S: One thing that I really liked that didn't strike me till the end um
So a lot of times with like girl groups its like, you know, like really distinct
So at least for me like when I hear words like oh like one person singing then the next person you know this and that,
Here it's like all their voices blended really really well to where it didn't- just because like sometimes
If like they're like that, maybe the timbres of their voice or like really different, for me at least, it sounds like oh, it's like
Disconnected for a sec. But here like, it flowed really really well, and that's like one of the first times
I've heard that a kpop song at least from like where you have a lot of different
People singing different lines. I thought it mesh really really well
N: What does that have to say about idolization means a whole interchangeable they don't have their own personality
Because like in other girl groups they all have their distinct voices and then distinct personalities, but yeah, they all seem identical
S: Well, I mean like there's a case to be said where you can still make something sound
connected while retaining your own individual personality (N: Right) once again from like
When I listen to k-pop songs aren't these songs with, right,
Maybe where they focus a little bit more on like everybody having their own distinct
Personalities and things like that, when it bleeds into the song, if I'm hearing a main melodic line (N: uh huh)
Instead of hearing one big phrase, I'm getting, it's chunky (N: Yeah, ok) and that could be 'cause I'm so- right
I'm so, you know I grew up with American pop music where it's just one singer singing one song, so you know I expect that
Obviously if maybe if I grew up with kpop music, more and more music like this, I would think differently but
That's why when I hear something like this I'm like 'wow like it sounded more as a whole...' (N: Right) if that makes sense
N: Yeah, no that doesn't make sense.
C: I thought it was interesting
P: Yeah, I moved around a lot, which I definitely appreciate it from like you know you're difficult pop song
There are a lot of different textures these like the rock section, kind of like the smooth R&B
part, like the breakdown when they like cleared out the most of it like I guess the "orchestration"
You know (C: Technical terms) Yeah, it's like it kind of like dropped out
It was just like you know this synth bass
And then it was- then it went to the hi-hat (?) add on it's like, I forgot what they called it in music history
But it's like crescendo by adding on things, it's like (C: Layering)
P: Nooo, it's named after somebody, I forgot C: Of course its named after somebody, but it's called layering
P: *gives up* Fine. It's a layering
C: They were layering in people and parts P: Named after Mr. Layery
C: No, thats not *frustrated noise* whatever
U: Okay, we can move on to the next one the next one is called 'Roopretelcham' which basically means abracadabra
It's like every wish will come true
So this is actually the b-side track that they promoted on music shows along with Pow Pow so it didn't come out with a music
video but it came out on the album, and they ended up making this performance video
And they're gonna be actually wearing traditional Korean outfits called hanboks and fun fact the hanboks
They are wearing are actually made for males, so fans are like *whaaat*
J: *chuckles* E: That's cool U: Yeah
The duo: *rambling about countdown*
P: Someone's at the door ^-^ C: Who is it?
P: Oh (C: Oh) Hanboks :) C: *chuckles* I don't think you can do that
E: Sounds like a wind orchestra (J: I love a good-) piece?
J: I love a good Hollywood string section
N: The) wind chimes S: Yeah, there you go, which is nice because maybe you've been supposed to sound-
The title kind of translate to abracadabra, you know they do this why they would go for something like that N: True, true
E: The strings *mimics descending line* *chuckles*
J: Oh, and they did it in inversion *mimics inversion*
L: I mean the drum is fake, but it's cool sounding, like it's got a cool beat
H: The MIDI synth though, oh god, its all MIDI synth
H: This was 100% generated using like Pro Tools and logics pre-uploaded MIDIs
O: Sounds like 'All I Want For Christmas Is You' again
A: I knew you were gonna say that, it's just that one interval that *vocalises*
O: They always use it! This is the second. time.
E: Just their voices, to me, kind of it seems like the same timbres a lot of other like
k-pop groups that we've listened to
L: The key is everywhere F: Yeah, it's like if you like made a key sandwich out of
I don't know
I: *mimicking descending ??*
*and again but with moves and with Kevin :D* *chuckling*
E: The harmonics are still pretty interesting though.
H: I still, yeah, I feel like it still suffers (though?) from with the first song we did
Which is too many inorganic elements that make something that's harmonically interesting suffer
E: Yeah, I feel like there's too much going on in general right now
H: There are like textural things. The bass is very busy
K: Again as I was saying, there's so much motion going on that like
I: *vocalising*
K: It's hard to remember
Like Pow Pow is so ... it mixes the modulations with
predictable stuff
This feels more *gestures outwards*
And I think it's good
Like that!
L: They're just- in the chorus they just do a lot of things that harmonically make no sense at all (F: Yeah)
P: Oh wow, I almost heard like 'All I Want For Christmas Is You'
He was going there and then they went *swerving motions and sounds* (C: Yep)
O: Ooh! It modulated
A: That they did
N: They're really using that rhythmic motif like *vocalises*
S: It's kind of funny because they had something like that in their previous song too (N: Oh really) Oh yeah
P&C: *humming 'All I Want For Christmas Is You*
P: Then you go left turn, its a left turn C:They're like noooo
K: A little syncopation, you know, never hurt nobody
P: *slapping thighs to rhythm*
P&C: *vocalising high note*
K: The chromatic notes are really nice, they're- Both: And then another one
I: *chuckling*
K: And then an F sharp, and then the A flat comes here ... yep, yep (I: Nice)
O: *hums* Chromatacism
Half-step down
A: Still tonicizing tonic
C: Aw (P: Huh, whaddya know) they're really cute
O: I like her hair ... its like orange but like-
A: That resolution though - we were sitting on the largest- what is it?
cadencial six-four cadence ever
P: It's like it's cool because it's
You know not, like I said earlier, it's like the sound kind of affects the way
They like are perceived, like visually because I feel like if it was less complex- if like if it went everywhere
We thought it was gonna go
Then like, you know, we get bored like you know what I mean?
C: Cause it would be boring if it didn't have like all of the
As you say, left turns
P: Yeah, cause when you think about like, I mean as far as the music video goes like you know, they weren't really doing much
C: No P: I mean they were just kind of like 'Hi, we're cute'
C: And dancing U: Its the performance version!
C: But like there's just all these little like things that they add in that are unexpected
And like leading you to another place even though they set out exactly the same way before like it's nice
N: Nice beautiful song I'm just like I can't help but compare it to like other songs
That I've heard on this station and like compared to that it just wasn't as captivating as those ones to be honest, but like,
Like you know maybe it requires more listening to get a deeper understanding but, yeah
S: I liked how at the beginning for some of the verses it would go from like double-timed and switch like in the next part
Of like regular time, and etc, that was kind of like a nice cool effect
H: Nice
E: Yeah, I've got to admit, they get the timing pretty on point for the tunes
H: Yeah, they know when to stop I feel like E: Yeah, that's nice
H: It's interesting that other reactors on the channel have been saying
That there's too many parts. It does feel like there are a lot of moving parts
But I have a feeling that they could be more cohesive if the texture was a little bit more, um, organic
K: Yeah man :D I: Alright
K: I definitely like Pow Pow more cause there's something really catchy about it, and this one just seems like you listen to it
You're like wow it was really good, and then you don't remember it
I: There was too many motives, I think
It's like they look like really good ones that like each one of them sounded so unique
But then it's just, once you have too many it's just like *gestures* what?
U: Yeah, so this one was a little bit more musically complex though, but not as catchy.
K: Yeah, Pow Pow has more personality
I: There you go
U: Right, and so compared to Pow Pow, so this is a b-site song (F: Pow Pow) that was a title track song- whoa (F: Pow Pow)
How do they different and my can you see why maybe Pow Pow is the title track and (L: Yes) this is a b-side?
L: Well Pow Pow was a lot more like pow pow
It was really- but really it was a lot more like in-your-face, but in a good way
Like it was very sparkly and shiny and like F: It had current like up-to-date (L: Yeah)
Sounds in the background
L: Yeah, and the other ones the other one was like fine, but it's like it
Just wasn't really anything that interesting I thought. I mean like, yeah
They did some cool stuff like with like weird harmonies in the chorus
And I mean the different feels with the tempo
But the other one, like it had a rap verse and it had a lot more like pizazz
S: It'd be interesting to listen to Pow Pow again after this because I'm also wondering like you know what-
Is pow pow faster than this song? The one we just listened to?
U: Faster tempo? S: Yeah U: *mimics tempo*
S: Cause if its like faster, if there's more going on in the video, and if there's more going on like musically, I wonder if that's just
Kind of would make me more biased to like- oh! Like kind of automatically being more drawn into that song
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