>>> REPUBLICANS’ BIGGEST ATTACK
LINE AGAINST DEMOCRATS SO FAR IN
THE 2020 RACE CAN REALLY BE
SUMMED UP IN ONE WORD --
RADICAL.
I ASKED SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS
ABOUT THAT LABEL IN MY
CONVERSATION.
PERHAPS YOU’VE HEARD ONE OF THE
CHIEF CRITICISMS OF THE
BIDEN/HARRIS TICKET IS THAT
YOU’RE RADICAL, A RADICAL
LIBERAL, AND AT THE CONVENTION
THERE’S SENATOR SANDERS WHO GOT
UP AND APPLAUDED YOU AND THE
VICE PRESIDENT FOR YOUR STANCE
ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND MINIMUM
WAGE AND UNION RIGHTS.
BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAD THE FORMER
GOVERNOR OF OHIO, JOHN KASICH,
YOU HAD MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, ONE
OF THE WEALTHIEST MEN ON EARTH,
AND YOU HAD GENERAL COLIN
POWELL --
>> CARLY FIORINA.
>> RIGHT.
AND SOME WERE SAYING, OH,
THEY’RE NOT LIBERAL ENOUGH,
THEY’RE TOO CENTRIST.
WHICH IS IT?
OR IS IT, WE CAN BE WHATEVER WE
WANT BECAUSE WE’RE JUST NOT
DONALD TRUMP?
IS THAT GOING TO BE THE CENTRAL
ARGUMENT FOR THE NEXT 68 DAYS?
>> THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT I
THINK THAT CAN BE MADE ABOUT THE
DIVERSITY OF WHO WE ARE IS AN
EMBRACE FOR THE DIVERSITY OF WHO
WE ARE.
AND THAT’S WHO WE ARE AS
DEMOCRATS.
WE BRAVE THE DIVERSITY OF WHO WE
ARE.
WE’RE NOT REQUIRING PEOPLE TO
MARCH AND FALL IN LINE.
>> YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OUR NEXT
GUEST NAME DROPPED THERE, CARLY
FIORINA RAN FOR PRESIDENT AS A
REPUBLICAN IN 2016.
SHE’S ALSO OF COURSE THE FORMER
CEO OF HEWLETT-PACKARD.
AND SHE’S VOTING FOR JOE BIDEN.
CARLY, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN,
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
THAT WORD "RADICAL" REPEATED
OVER AND OVER AGAIN BY THE
PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES.
WHAT’S YOUR ADVICE, CARLY, TO
JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS ON
HOW TO BEST ADDRESS THAT LABEL?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF JOE
BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS’ GREAT
CHALLENGES, AND I THINK THEY’RE
UP TO IT, IS NOT TO RESPOND TO
EVERYTHING THAT DONALD TRUMP
SAYS.
I THINK THAT SERVES DONALD
TRUMP’S INTERESTS, TO HAVE HIM
BE ABLE TO SET THE PARAMETERS OF
THE DEBATE.
I THINK WHAT JOE BIDEN NEEDS TO
DO IS TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT
WHO HE IS, AS DEMONSTRATED
THROUGH A LIFETIME, A PERSON OF
HUMILITY, OF EMPATHY, SOMEONE
WHO IS WILLING TO WORK WITH
OTHERS, MANY OF WHOM HE
DISAGREES WITH, TO SOLVE
PROBLEMS.
THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE REAL
PROBLEMS THEY INTEND TO SOLVE
AND HOW THEY INTEND TO SOLVE
THEM, WHETHER IT’S THE PROBLEM
OF AN ECONOMIC CRISIS, WHETHER
IT’S THE PROBLEM OF RACIAL OR
ECONOMIC INJUSTICE, WHETHER IT’S
THE PROBLEM OF TOO MANY PEOPLE
WHO LITERALLY CAN’T AFFORD NOT
TO GO TO WORK AND CAN’T AFFORD
TO STAY HOME EITHER, AND ALL OF
THESE REAL ISSUES.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL, AND IT
WILL TAKE BOTH BUSINESS AND
GOVERNMENT, BOTH REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS, TO SOLVE ANY ONE OF
THOSE PROBLEMS.
>> CARLY, YOU HEARD ME MENTION
IN THAT CONVERSATION JOHN KASICH
AND MICHAEL BLOOMBERG AND
GENERAL COLIN POWELL.
THIS GROWING LIST OF REPUBLICAN
ENDORSEMENTS, DO YOU THINK THAT
IT ACTUALLY CHANGES OPINIONS?
DOES IT MOVE THE NEEDLE AT ALL?
>> I DON’T KNOW.
BUT I’LL TELL YOU, UNLIKE
PREVIOUS ELECTIONS, PERHAPS, I
THINK THE SPECIFICS OF POLICY,
IN A WEIRD WAY, AND THE
SPECIFICS OF WHO IS ENDORSING
WHOM, MATTER MUCH LESS THAN TWO
VERY IMPORTANT THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, HOW IS IT THAT
DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN
BEHAVE OVER THE NEXT 60 WHATEVER
IT IS DAYS?
WHAT ARE THEIR ACTIONS?
WHAT ARE THEIR CHOICES?
WHAT IS THEIR BEHAVIOR?
I THINK PEOPLE ARE WATCHING BOTH
OF THEM VERY CLOSELY.
WILL JOE BIDEN ACT IN A WAY THAT
YUVENS
UNIFIES THE NATION?
WILL DONALD TRUMP CONTINUE TO
ACT IN A WAY THAT DIVIDES THE
NATION?
AND THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT
THING IS WHO COMES OUT TO VOTE.
SO I THINK THIS IS VERY MUCH
ABOUT MANO A MANO, WHO IS THE
BETTER LEADER FOR THIS NATION,
WHO HAS THE CHARACTER AND THE
ENERGY TO HELP PROPEL THIS
NATION FORWARD, WHO WILL UNIFY,
WHO WILL DIVIDE, AND WHO WILL
VOTE.
>> CANDIDATE BEHAVIOR AND VOTER
TURNOUT.
CARLY, HERE WE ARE, 67 DAYS.
A SIMPLE QUESTION HERE.
DO YOU THINK THAT THERE ARE
STILL LARGE SWATHS OF PEOPLE WHO
HAVEN’T ALREADY MADE UP THEIR
MIND, FOR WHOM THEY PLAN TO CAST
THEIR BALLOT?
>> I THINK THERE ARE ENOUGH
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT YET MADE UP
THEIR MIND, THAT IT CAN SWING
THE ELECTION.
I THINK OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE
LOADS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE UP
THEIR MIND.
BUT AS WE KNOW, IN 2016, AND I
BELIEVE AGAIN IN 2020, THIS
ELECTION WILL BE IN NO SMALL
MEASURE WON OR LOST BY PEOPLE
WHO ARE WATCHING VERY CAREFULLY.
YOU KNOW, THOSE VOTERS WHO VOTED
FOR OBAMA AND THEN PULLED THE
LEVER FOR TRUMP AT THE LAST
MINUTE.
OR THE VOTER WHO THOUGHT THEY
WERE GOING TO COME OUT AND VOTE
AND THEN JUST DECIDED IN THE
END, NAH, I DON’T LIKE EITHER
ONE OF THEM SO I’M NOT GOING OUT
THERE.
SO YES, THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE
WHO HAVEN’T DECIDED EXACTLY WHAT
THEY’RE GOING TO DO, WHO THEY’RE
GOING TO VOTE FOR OR WHETHER
THEY’LL VOTE AT ALL, WHO CAN
MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
SO IT’S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
THAT’S WHY YOU SAW THE
REPUBLICAN CONVENTION THAT YOU
SAW, BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE
TRYING TO CHANGE SOME MINDS.
COME ON.
WE KNOW, PERHAPS WE’VE MADE YOU
UNCOMFORTABLE, COME ON BACK AND
VOTE FOR TRUMP AGAIN.
IT’S WHY YOU SAW DEMOCRATS PLEAD
WITH AMERICANS TO GET OUT AND
VOTE.
SO YEAH, I THINK THERE ARE
ENOUGH PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO
COULD MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.