EMISSION STANDARDS, THE PARK IN
THE DESERT LOOKS LIKE A GRAIF
YARD FOR CARVES, DOESN'T IT?
VERY SPECIAL GUEST ON THE
PROGRAM THIS MORNING, HAS A NEW
BOOK AND HIGHLIGHT IT IS RAPID
DECLINE OF MORALITY IN AMERICA,
THIS IS DENISE PRAGA HE'S
GRACING OUR PROGRAM BY POPULAR
REQUEST AND WE WOULD LOVE TO
HAVE HIM ON THE SHOW, THE
RATIONAL BIBLE EXODUS, WELCOME
TO THE PROGRAM.
IT'S AN HONOR.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
STUART: GIVE ME THE CENTRAL
PREMISE OF THE BOOK, GO.
>> PEOPLE GO TO SURGE TO
SYNAGOGUE AND HEAR THE BIBLE AND
MOST OF THEM DON'T KNOW THOUSAND
MAKE HEADS WITH TAILS WITH IT, I
LIKE THE FOUNDERS OF AMERICA
KNOW THIS IS THE GREATEST BECOME
EVER WRITTEN AND I WANT TO MAKE
THE CASE, I TAKE ONE BOOK HERE,
THE SECOND BOOK OF THE BIBLE AND
I WILL BE COMING OUT WITH A
VOLUME FOR EACH OF THE FIVE
BOOKS, GENESIS WILL COME NEXT,
THIS HAS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
I'M USING REASON ALONE TO
EXPLAIN EVERYTHING IN THERE,
SLAVERY, TEN COMMANDMENTS, THE
BURNING BUSH, THE TEN PLAGUES,
EXODUS AND SHOW HOW THIS IS
LIFE-TRANSFORMING THAT THIS WAS
THE SOURCE OF WISDOM IN AMERICA
FOR A GOOD REASON.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN ALMOST NEVER
WENT TO CHURCH BUT HE READ THE
BIBLE EVERY NIGHT.
STUART: NOW, CHRISTIANS AND I'M
A CHRISTIAN WE DON'T SEEM TO
PROVE EXISTENCE OF GOD AND WE
DON'T SEEM TO PROVE THAT JESUS
WAS WHO HE SAID HE WAS.
ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE THE
EXISTENCE OF GOD RATIONALLY IN
THIS BOOK?
>> NOT PROVE BUT ARGUE FOR, YES,
I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF
WHY I BELIEVE THAT -- THAT THESE
-- THESE SPECIALLY THE FIRST
FIVE BOOKS ARE DIVINE RATHER
THAN HUMAN MADE BECAUSE THEY
DEPICT THE JEWS OFTEN SO
NEGATIVELY, NO GROUP HAS EVER
WRITTEN BADLY ABOUT ITSELF IN
HISTORY.
SO EITHER THE JEWS WERE UNIQUE
IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THEIR
ABILITY TO BE SELF-CRITICAL OR
THEY'RE REALLY NOT THE AUTHORS
THAT ULTIMATELY THERE IS A
DIVINE AUTHOR, THAT'S WHAT I
BELIEVE.
THE VERY CRITICAL WAY THAT THE
GREAT WAY IN WHICH NONJEWS ARE
DEPICTED IN FIVE BOOKS, AND THE
NEGATIVE WAY JEWS NOT ALWAYS
OBVIOUSLY, MOSES WAS DEPICTED
BEAUTIFULLY BUT EVEN HE HAS
FLAWS, THAT IS ONE OF THE MANY
ARGUMENTS OF DIVINE AUTHOR TO
THE FIVE BOOKS.
STUART: YOU HAVE WRITTEN IN THIS
BOOK THAT THIS IS THE FIRST
GENERATION, CURRENT GENERATION
OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD, THE
FIRST GENERATION WHICH HAS BEEN
BROUGHT UP DENYING THE EXISTENCE
OF GOD WITHOUT GODLESS YOU SAY.
>> THIS IS AN EXCERPT MAY WORK
OUT, I DON'T THINK SO, THE FIRST
AGAIN RATION IN THE WEST, THE
FIRST GENERATION IN HUMAN
HISTORY, NOT JUST WESTERN THAT'S
BEING RAISED GODLESS, NO
RELIGION, NO GOD AND THE
RESULTS, I BELIEVE, THE END OF
WESTERN CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW
IT.
NOT GOD PUNISHING US, HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH DIVINE
INTERVENTION BUT A WISDOM-FREE
GENERATION, A GENERATION THAT
DOESN'T BELIEVE IN ANY TRUTH
WILL NOT SURVIVE.
STUART: YOU THINK THAT THE JUDEO
CHRISTIAN ETHIC WHICH IS BUILT
WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS GONE
OVER AND THEREFORE OUR
CIVILIZATION IS GONE AND OVER,
IS THAT IT?
>> YES, I'M NOT ALONE IN
BELIEVING THAT.
THIS IS WHAT THE GREAT BRITISH
PRIME MINISTER, MY FAVORITE,
WHAT'S HER NAME, MARGARET
THATCHER SAID THAT.
WITH JUDEO CIVILIZATION GOES WE
GO.
SO I AM NOT THE FIRST TO NOTE
THIS, THIS -- WHY DID -- PEOPLE
SHOULD ANSWER THIS QUESTION, NOT
WHO HAD SLAVES, EVERYONE HAD
SLAVES, THE ONLY INTELLIGENT
QUESTION IS WHO ABOLISHED
SLAVERY AND THE ANSWER IS THOSE
WHO BOUGHT THE BELIEFS OF THIS
BOOK.
STUART: DENISE PRAGGER, I WISH
IT WASN'T SO SHORT.
IT WAS A GREAT PLEASURE.
>> VERY SWEET OF YOU.
HONOR.
STUART: THE NAME TO HAVE BOOK IS
EXODUS --
>> RATIONAL BIBLE.
STUART: THIS ONE IS IXODUS.
I WILL GIVE YOU A PEN AND YOU
WILL AUTOGRAPH THAT COPY FOR ME,
IS THAT OKAY?
>> WITH MY OWN MOUNTAIN PEN IF I
MAY.
I'M A SNOB ONLY WITH REGARD TO
PENS.