okay all of this looks like fun teat party date
in pittsburgh pennsylvania wants to challenge me on my energy policy hello
thier gave
how were you com i_b_m_ great that idea better how about might wanna call me at
andy and ripple
hopis you're smart
uh...
possibly but
new york ny no you mike
use it in the negative paradiso but
well tell tell me tell it first of all what is my energy policy you want to
criticize her day equivalent coming to it uh... when in one gent called you
about uh... uh... that they were all companies in taiwan and of course in and
what i wanted to tell you about will one
messages pumping 'cause i'd like to tell you lead the way so to speak
how many windmills if you go out on top of your building now
uh... i have none several of my neighbors have vehicles that are one
hundred percent wind powered but mine is not
uh... durability it is not on the bombing solar panels dr
hope excel value powering up here
studio
well here in washington d_c_
you can actually check full box and say will pay a little bit more and we want a
hundred percent renewable electricity
if i was in a position to be able to do that
i would unfortunately were a building where the cost fortress she's built into
our rent so i have no idea if our landlord which is the heritage
foundation is choosing to do that or not i'm guessing that they don't
you know a lot of places in this country you can check their box and we lived in
portland
we i always check that box i paid extra to get their electricity that
there was a very small extra actually cuz it was mostly hydro
and it was not that much more expensive but i paid extra to get renewable energy
what's your point
they ought to have a look at if your vote no oldies reason well how many
chevy baltimore there in washington
hillary's let me play i was a law in your logic you kissed expired although
it didn't hang on to say and let me let me even though the sunday he and you you
know and i think
they hang up on your just held on for a second
what you're basically saying is that if somebody doesn't walk there talk they
have no right to say the talk is that basically a
i'm doing that
colette
and it can be done by anyone but i hear mostly from the that'd it's about leah
policy ok
do it right say
at as i do right that so i just said if you don't walkie-talkie shouldn't be
talking the talk
and antonette put a carbon tax on everyone but i hear you putting the
trying not to be applying ought to their playing off you know like i have never
voted in an airplane in my life ok though
amino you well an airplane is actually it more efficient in terms of carbon use
per mile been driving a car
secondly
and perhaps more importantly all of this this is terror argument you're making is
a straw man
and i'm guessing you don't realize the state but just think about it for a
minute
is not your actions or my actions
they're going to change the level of carbon use in the united states or even
al gore's actions or even saudi uses absurd about it
of carmen you know somebody who owns their own
in o_j_ if three hundred foot yacht you know uh... the the the bid the
billionaire who
who started to the the whatever the company the
was out there in the west coast google on it isn't so bad that government
electrolysis
and therefore
if we want to change
though if the the faq
that we have a country that is based on fossil fuels that are there are connie
is running on fossil fuels
much of our industries rainfalls visit what change that
we have to change that at the level of policy so to to criticize somebody who
is aggressively trying to change
policy through the political process
which is how it will actually change it so george herbert walker bush
got rid of acid rain
with cap and trade for sulfur dioxide if he had pricked by criticizing somebody
who's trying to change policy
for not magically themselves having been able to step outside of that policy
is as i said he straw man argument
lighter
because it's it's irrelevant
gimana carbon that i use is not gonna change rather another similar site
saying it's your turn on me
who worked on the actually a very poor working person their report
oh value first me to abide by all of your role
my rules
if yeah if what you're saying i gave her adding what you're saying a little bit
mail his highly hapag uses solar panel
the ticket when he spoke to even after i walked up paying more
and harvest how does
taxing or making a poor person pay more
isn't that more told that it is like
it would be ideal how do you know reported gaia short
i i don't think that we should
ask poor people to pay more agree with bernie sanders on this that as we make
the transition from the body with the connie to a twenty first century connie
from one form of energy to another
that those people who can't really afford to make that transition
we should help them out
that we should be giving tax credits were even allright payments to people
who have to drive a long way to get to work
to people who have to we live in the northeast in or anywhere in the north
and cost a lot to heat their homes that we should be made we should be doing
this transition in such a way
that that people like yourself
are not going to be hit with an extra burden and yet at the same time as a
nation
we're no longer going to be dependent upon the osama bin laden's of the world
for our fuel
ait could
one hundred fifty only part i think we can agree that i think we should be
getting are aand you'll an art our own energy not beaded cut off by the said
reader correcting this land and grabbing it
if you have a prolonged at a common then we should all be using it
uh... if it if it works to the benefit of our society we shouldn't be using a
different arms our society has a five minute harm simple principle
well first of all when you burn when you burn fossil fuels the jury fossil fuels
like
like in particular cold but also oil
when you bring down you produce a lot of particular matter that is poised to
cannot
you can't eat the fish in the united states anymore there's not a single
laker river
in this country
that has fish at the don't have mercury levels that if you consume them on a
regular basis you will cause neurological damage to yourself
well probably severe damage to your kids book
number one
and those companies are not paying for that you and i are paying for that
people who are who are who have neurologically damaged children are
paying for that
you know we're sewed number one number two you've got other kinds of
particulate matter arsenic and and and you know other cancer-causing chemicals
that are coming out of these out of these plans again these companies are
not paying for their external activated their externalities
are being paid for dave by you
and binding we pay our taxes cities people show up in the emergency room or
we pay extra to the extra taxes so that near a logic league anish children who
have cause much much more to educate the public schools you and i are paying for
that not the oil companies record companies carriages say pain we're
paying with our property tax absolutely
were paying and the and they all daniel oil and gas and coal company should be
paying for it and if you'd look at a gas at natural gas you know there are all
kinds of externalities associated with that you've got however time we come up
with a new
you'll earlier do energy that the last doesn't like
you want to do everything in the world passes got nothing to do is left to
right flavor
davis has this has to do
not with with if you're going to produce energy you pay for the costs associated
with a i'm just saying let's stop the free ride for the oil companies gas
companies and the cold front would stop the free right we don't give a free ride
through two solar companies they give a free ride exeter windmill companies
where we've given these guys are free
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