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THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS IN THE 2020
ELECTION ARE SHAPING UP TO BE
TWO BIG ONES.
HEALTHCARE AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
ACCORDING TO OUR LATEST WALL
STREET POLL HEALTHCARE OUTPACED
CLIMATE CHANGE, JOBS AMONG
DEMOCRATS AS THE TOP ISSUE.
FOLKS, THE 2020 RACE IS THE
FIRST ELECTION WITH CLIMATE
CHANGE FRONT AND CENTER IN THE
MIND OF DEMOCRATIC VOTERS.
TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS,
39% OF DEMOCRATS CONSIDER
CLIMATE CHANGE A TOP ONE OR TWO
ISSUE, THAT IS UP 16 POINTS FROM
THIS TIME FOUR YEARS AGO.
>> THAT LIE LEVEL HAS NOT
TRANSLATED INTO SIMILAR POLL
NUMBERS.
JAY INSLEE, HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN
IS CENTERED AROUND THE CLIMATE
CHANGE ISSUE.
THE LATEST POLL ISSUES HAVE INSLEE FLOATING AROUND THE 1%
MARK.
MARK.
THE MAN FROM WASHINGTON STATE PUTTING CLIMATE CHANGE FRONT AND
CENTER.
CENTER.
GOVERNOR INSLEE, WELCOME BACK TO
THE SHOW.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COVERAGE OF
THIS ISSUE.
THIS ISSUE.
>> LET ME GET AT THIS CONUNDRUM. ON THE ONE HAND YOU ARE ON THEM.
ON THE ONE HAND YOU ARE ON THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE
AFTER HEALTHCARE.
AFTER HEALTHCARE. IM WONDERING, BECAUSE EVERYONE
IN THE FIELD BASICALLY AGREES
WITH WHAT TO DO.
THERE ARE OF DIFFERENCES AROUND
THE MARGIN.
HAVE YOU THE MOST DETAILED PLAN. I GRANT YOU THAT. DETAILED PLAN.
I GRANT YOU THAT. HAS IT BEEN HARDER FOR YOU TO
STAND OUT AND GET VOTERS TO SAY,
OH, HES THE CLIMATE CHANGE GUY? >> NO, I THINK WE ARE MAKING A?
>> NO, I THINK WE ARE MAKING A POINT IN THIS.
I WAS IN LOS ANGELES ROLLING OUT OUR PLAN FRIDAY.ELES ROLLING OUT
OUR PLAN FRIDAY. IM THE ONLY CANDIDATE TO DATE
TO MAKE IT CHEER WE WILL TRANSITION OFF OF COAL AND IN
2030.
2030. YES.
YES.
WE HAD AARON GARCETTI MAYOR WITH
US.
HES DONE FANTASTIC WORK.
JERRY BROWN SAID NICE THINGS ABOUT MY PLAN.ID NICE THINGS
ABOUT MY PLAN. I APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK THERE THE A COUPLE UNIQUENESS ABOUT MY POSITION.
ONE, IM REALLY THE ONLY
CANDIDATE THAT ON DAY ONE SAID
IM GOING TO MAKE THIS THE
NUMBER ONE JOB OF MY
ADMINISTRATION.
LOOK, THIS IS NOT JOB ONE, IT WILL NOT GET DONE.JOB ONE, IT
WILL NOT GET DONE. YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND THE BUSH,
CHUCK.
YOU KNOW THIS TAKES ENORMOUS POLITICAL CAPITAL.S ENORMOUS
POLITICAL CAPITAL. IM WILLING TO DO THAT.
NUMBER TWO, I GOT TO LITERALLY
DO A MULTI-KETTLE EFFORT, FORMED A U.S. CLIMATE ALLOWANCE. FORMED
A U.S. CLIMATE ALLOWANCE. IM THE ONLY CANDIDATE TO DATE
TO MAKE A CLEAR COMMITMENT OF
GETTING OFF COAL AS ONE OF OUR
PRINCIPLES, ONE IS I DONT KNOW
IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE,
SIGNING THE BEST 100% CLEAN
ENERGY GRID AND THE STRONGEST
ENERGY POLL SEASON IN BUILDINGS
IN THE COUNTRY.
SO I THINK ITS A TRIFECTA.
I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. THERE IS A LOT OF TALENT IN THE
FIELD, IM UNIQUE IN THIS
REGARD.
>> TELL ME THIS, YOU WILL GO TO
WEST VIRGINIA AND CAMPAIGN ON
SHUTTING DOWN COAL PLANTS IN TEN
YEARS?
ARE YOU GOING TO SOUTHWEST
VIRGINIA AND DO THIS?
ARE YOU GOING TO PARTS OF
KENTUCKY?
IM SURE YOU WILL, TO MAKE YOUR
POINTS.
WHAT ARE YOU GO HIM TO TELL
THOSE FOLKS?
>> IM GOING TO LISTEN TO THESE FOLKS.GOING TO LISTEN TO THESE
FOLKS.
THEY ARE HARD WORKING AMERICANS. THEY AND THEIR AN SESORS BUILTS.
THEY AND THEIR AN SESORS BUILT THE INDUSTRIAL MITE BASED ON
COAL IN THE UNITED STATES.
THEY HELPED US WIN TWO WORLD
WARS.
THEY DESERVE A PRESIDENT WHO
WONT LIE TO THEM AND WILL
LISTEN TO THEM.
THEY HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS
CONTINUALLY LYING TO THEM.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE KNOW THAT
WE ARE TRANSITIONING OFF COAL.
ITS DOWN FROM 48% TO 28%.
HALF TO TWO-THIRDS OF THE COAL PLANTS HAVE ALREADY CLOSED.OAL
PLANTS HAVE ALREADY CLOSED. AND THEY NEED TO BE TOLD THE
TRUTH.
WHICH IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A
TRANSITION.
BUT I WANT TO LISTEN TO THEM
ABOUT HOW THEY WANT US TO
STRUCTURE A TRANSITION PLAN FOR
THOSE FAMILIES AND THOSE COMMUNITIES.ES AND THOSE
COMMUNITIES.
>> DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA IN.
>> YES.
>> DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT A TRANSITION PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE?
GIVE ME AN IDEA.
>> JUST TO DO AS WE ARE IN
WASHINGTON. WE ARE CLOSING OUR LAST COAL
FIRED PLANT, ITS IN CENTRALIA
WASHINGTON.
WE DIDNT SHUT IT OFF LICK ETTY
SPLIT.
IT INVOLVES A $55 MILLION FUND TO PROTECT WORKERS, TO MAKE SURE
THEY CAN RETIRE IN DIGNITY IF
THEY ARE AT THAT AGE, TO MAKE
SURE THEY CAN GET A GOOD TRAINING AND EDUCATION, NOT JUST
TRAINING.
TRAINING.
TRAINING IS NOT ENOUGH.
YOU GOT TO HAVE A JOB.
SO OUR PLAN HELPS DEVELOP SMALL
BUSINESSES TO CREATE JOBS IN
THAT COMMUNITY AND TO HELP THAT
COMMUNITYS INFRASTRUCTURE.
ITS WORKING WELL.
WERE CONSIDERING A POSSIBILITY
OF TRANSITIONING ACTUALLY TO A
SOLAR PLANT.
THATS NOT A DONE DEAL YET. WHEN YOU DO PROVIDE THATT.
WHEN YOU DO PROVIDE THAT TRANSITION.
TRANSITION.
THESE FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES
NEED THIS MO MATTER WHAT,
PHOTOGRAPHICALLY, COAL IS DYING
BECAUSE WE NEWABLE FUEL IS NOW MORE OR LESS A COSTLY -- ANDOW
MORE OR LESS A COSTLY -- AND JUST THE OTHER DAY FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN THE AMERICAN HISTORY, WE
PRODUCED MORE ELECTRICITY THROUGH RENEWABLE ENERGY AND
COAL.
COAL.
THIS IS THE FUTURE. ITS SAME TO SEIZE THE FUTURE.
>> WEVE MADE A BIG DEAL CLIMATE
CHANGE SURPASSED THE NUMBER TWO
ISSUE.
BUT THERE THE A NUMBER ONE
ISSUE.
ITS NUMBER ONE WITH A BULLET IF YOU WILL, 20 POINTS HIGHER THAN
CLIMATE CHANGE, ITS HEALTHCARE,
IT SEEMS DEMOCRATS HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN THEY THINK OFKE
A DECISION WHEN THEY THINK OF YOU AS A CANDIDATE VERSUS
SOMEBODY ELSE.
SOMEBODY ELSE.
YOU SAID DAY ONE, ITS CLIMATE CHANGE.D DAY ONE, ITS CLIMATE
CHANGE.
THERE ARE OTHER CANDIDATES THAT SAY DAY ONE, ITS ObamaCare.THAT
SAY DAY ONE, ITS ObamaCare. WHAT DO YOU TELL THE VOTER WHO
SAYS, LOOK, IM WORRIED ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE, RIGHT NOW THIS HEALTHCARE MESS HAS TO BE FIXED
FIRST.
FIRST.
HOW DO YOU CONVINCE THAT VOTER
TO GO WITH YOU?
>> WELL, LISTEN, THERE ARE NOT A DOCTOR, ENOUGH DOCTORS AND NOT A
DOCTOR, ENOUGH DOCTORS AND NURSES ON THE PLANET EARTH TO
PROTECT OUR HEALTH IF WE DONT SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE. WE DONT
SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE.
THIS IS A HEALTHCARE ISSUE FIRST AND FOREMOST.LTHCARE ISSUE FIRST
AND FOREMOST. YOU KNOW, THERE IS ABOUT 10,000
PLUS MORE PEOPLE DIE OF AIR
POLLUTION TODAY EVEN BEFORE THIS
CLIMATE CHANGES, BECAUSE WERE
BREATHING JUST THE SMOKE COMING OUT OF OUR TAIL PIPES THAN DIEG
OUT OF OUR TAIL PIPES THAN DIE IN CAR CRASHES TODAY, LYME
DISEASE, I MET A COUPLE WOES
DAUGHTER HAD TO DROP OUT OF NEW
HAMPSHIRE BECAUSE OF LYME
DISEASE.
THIS IS A HEALTHCARE ISSUE.
THE THING ABOUT CLAIMANT CLANG
IS ITS NOT A SINGLE ISSUE.
IT IS ALL THE ISSUES.
ITS HEALTHCARE, ITS NATIONAL
SECURITY.
WE WERE ALREADY SEEING CLAIMANT
REFUGEES ON OUR SOUTHERN BORDER.
IT IS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY,
YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THIS? ARE YOU GOING TO
PAY FOR THIS?
I ASKED THEM, HOW ARE YOU GOING
TO PAY FOR PARADISE, CALIFORNIA,
THAT BURNED TO THE GROUND?
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR
UTILITYIES THAT HAVE GONE
BANKRUPT BECAUSE OF MASSIVE
FIRES IN CALIFORNIA AND FLOODS
TODAY IN IOWA.
THIS IS AN ECONOMIC HEALTH, A NATIONAL SECURITY MEASURE AND
ITS A MEASURE ABOUT A CAN DO
COUNTRY THAT NEEDS A CAN DO
PRESIDENT AND IM WILLING TO
TAKE ON THAT JOB. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ONE
OTHER ISSUE THAT MIGHT PUT YOU
ON THE WRONG SIDE OF YOUR
DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES.
DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES.
THATS THE ISSUE OF TRADE.
AS SOMEBODY FROM A COASTAL
STATE, ITS NOT SURPRISING TO ME
YOU WERE AMONG THE DEMOCRATS
THAT VOTED FOR NAFTA BACK IN THE
90s THAT SUPPORTED NAFTA.
A LOT OF DEMOCRATS THAT TOUCHED THE PACIFIC OCEAN OR TOUCHED THE
ATLANTIC OCEAN HAD PORTS OF
ENTRY DID.
ENTRY DID. WHERE ARE YOU ON THE NEW NAFTA?
HOW WOULD YOU VOTE ON THAT
TODAY?
AND ARE YOU IN STEP WITH YOUR PARTY ON TRADE?STEP WITH YOUR
PARTY ON TRADE? OR DO YOU THINK YOU ARE A LITTLE
OUT OF STEP OR VICE-VERSA?
>> I THINK IM REALLY IN STEP. WE NEED TRADE POLICIES THATP.
WE NEED TRADE POLICIES THAT FOSTER JOB GROWTH, MAKE SURE
THAT COLLECTIVE BARGAININGS RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED AND MAKE
SURE THAT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS
ARE FOLLOWED.
AND I DO NOT TRUST DONALD TRUMP
FOR TWO INCHES TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE AN AGREE EMT THAT
COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT.
SO IVE NOT READ THIS.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED.
>> RIGHT.
>> I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE,
UNLESS, IN FACT, IT DOES PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL --DOES PROTECT
OUR ENVIRONMENTAL -- >> DO YOU BELIEVE NAFTA WAS A
SUCCESS OR A FAILURE?
>> I HAVE MIXED RESULTS.
SOME JOBS IT HELPED.
SOME JOBS IT DID NOT. >> WOULD YOU KAST THE SAME VOTE?
>> PROBABLY NOT TODAY.
BECAUSE WEVE LEARNED SOME THINGS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO
PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS
FROM THAT.
FROM THAT.
BUT I BELIEVE THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS TO GET RID OF THEE
NEED TO DO IS TO GET RID OF THE CHAOS AND CHIEF OF A GUY WHO HAS
NOW SHUT DOWN THEING A GRI
CULTURAL -- AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY
IN THE MID-WEST.
I SAW BINS, FARMERS COULDNT
SELL THEIR GRAIN, THEN THE FLOODS CAME AND WASHED AWAY
THEIR SILOS IN HAMBURG, IOWA
THEYRE GETTING IT BOTH WAYS
FROM DONALD TRUMP.
WE NEED SOMEBODY TO BRING A