NEXT TIME WE WILL
WE WILL SEE DANIEL PENNY IN
COURT WILL BE ON JULY 17TH.
STUART: 7 JOINING US IS PUBLIC
LETTER AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR
GUY BENSON, GREAT TO SEE YOU.
A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE
STORY.
WE NEVER CELEBRATE THE LOSS OF
LIFE IN THIS COUNTRY, HAVING
SAID THAT, IN NEW YORK WE HAVE
A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH MENTAL
ILLNESS, HOMELESSNESS ON THE
STREET, CRIME, I’VE EXPERIENCED
EVERY PIECE OF IT, YOU HAVE A
SITUATION HERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE
FORCED TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES,
PROTECT EACH OTHER WHEN THEY
SUSPECT THERE’S ACTIVITY GOING
ON THAT IS DANGEROUS, WHEN THEY
ARE FEARFUL, THE MARINE PUTS
THIS GUY IN A CHOKEHOLD,
SUBDUES HIM.
HE IS AND TRAINED TO KNOW WHAT
DEADLY USE OF FORCE IS AND
THAT’S THE PROBLEM IN A
SITUATION LIKE THIS, THE POLICE
AREN’T DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY
HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO KNOW THE
DIFFERENCE, WHEN TO STOP, WHAT
TO DO IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.
I SEE WHAT’S HAPPENING HERE IN
NEW YORK WITH RESPECT TO THIS
MARINE BECAUSE I’M THINKING IT
IS OF FREE FOR ALL.
IT HAS BEEN LIKE THE WILD WEST.
PEOPLE DON’T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE
IT, THEY SEE SOMEONE
THREATENING ON THE SUBWAY AND
PUT HIM IN A CHOKEHOLD TO
PROTECT OTHERS BUT THEY DON’T
KNOW HOW FAR IS TOO FAR.
THIS IS WHAT ALVIN BRAGG WANTS
TO DO, LOCK HIM UP AND THROW
HIM IN JAIL.
>> HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN
ON THE SUBWAY WHERE SOMEONE
COMES THROUGH AND IT IS VERY
UNCOMFORTABLE IN THE CAR, A
VOLATILE SITUATION, YOU DON’T
WANT TO MAKE EYE CONTACT
BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT
MIGHT ESCALATE SOMETHING.
I DON’T LIVE IN THE CITY.
I COME APPEAR ONCE A MONTH TO
DO MY JOB AND OCCASIONALLY GO
TO THE BRONX FOR A YANKEE GAME,
COME BACK, I HAVE EXPERIENCED
THAT MULTIPLE TIMES.
YOU SEE VIDEOS ALL OVER SOCIAL
MEDIA OF REALLY SCARY THINGS
HAPPENING ON THE SUBWAY.
CLEARLY PARTICULARLY WOMEN ARE
IN DANGER, IMMINENT DANGER AND
NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT
IT.
HERE’S SOMEONE WHO DID
SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
MOST PEOPLE ON A SUBWAY CAR
WERE GRATEFUL AND GLAD THAT HE
INTERVENED.
THAT BEING SAID, A MAN IS DEAD.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING TO GLIDE
PAST.
I’VE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE SAYING HE
SHOULD’VE RELEASED THE
CHOKEHOLD SOONER AFTER THE MAN
WAS UNCONSCIOUS, THAT SOMETHING
FOR JERRY TO DECIDE BUT FOR THE
FAMILY OF THE DECEASED TO TALK
ABOUT THIS BEING MURDER.
WE’VE HEARD THAT FROM
POLITICIANS AS WELCOME OF THE
WHITEWASHING OF THIS MAN’S
RECORD WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY
RELEVANT, PUNCHING OLD WOMEN IN
THE FACE, SCREAMING IN THE
MOMENT, THREATENING PEOPLE,
DON’T CARE IF I DIE OR GO TO
JAIL, THAT’S A SCARY MOMENT AND
TO HAVE BASICALLY A GOOD
SAMARITAN STEP FORWARD TO STOP HARM TO SOMEONE ELSE, DID HE
HARM TO SOMEONE ELSE, DID HE
TAKE A TOO FAR?
INTERESTING LEGAL QUESTION BUT
IT WOULD BE HARD TO CONVICT
THIS PERSON OF ANYTHING LET
ALONE MURDER GIVEN THE
CIRCUMSTANCES.
TAYLOR: WHEN THE POLICE AREN’T
ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB, THEY TAKE
IT IN THEIR OWN HANDS BECAUSE
WE ARE GETTING HELP.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALVIN BRAGG,
HE IS DECIDING WHAT CRIMES HE
IS OR IS NOT GOING TO
PROSECUTE, THAT’S THE DEBATE,
WE DON’T PROSECUTE CRIMES
ANYMORE.
>> POLITICS.
I’M NOT OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER
BERNIE GETS.
WHEN CRIME WAS REALLY BAD IN
THE CITY, DECADES AGO, THAT WAS
A VIGILANTE JUSTICE MOMENT
WHERE PRETTY CLEARLY THERE WAS
A CRIME COMMITTED AND THE JURY
REFUSED TO CONVICT BECAUSE THE
OFFICIALS WEREN’T DOING THEIR
JOBS.
BERNIE GETS TOOK THE LAW INTO
HIS OWN HANDS AND A LOT OF NEW
YORKERS SAID GOOD FOR HIM OR AT
LEAST WHISPERED IT.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS
POLITICS.
WHEN THE NAME IS DONALD TRUMP,
LET’S UPGRADE THE CHARGE.
WHEN THE HOMELESS MAN DEFECATE
ON A PRIDE FLAG, HIT HIM WITH A
HATE CRIME CHARGE.
HERE’S MANSLAUGHTER 2, ALL THIS
OTHER STUFF IS CATCH, RELEASE,
CHARGES DROPPED, DOWNGRADE,
OBVIOUSLY THERE’ S POLITICS AT
PLAY, IT’S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT AND THAT IS PART
OF THE PROBLEM, WHY PEOPLE
MIGHT BE INSTANTLY RUSHING TO
THE DEFENSE OF THIS MARINE
REGARDLESS OF THE FACTS, THEY
DON’T TRUST ALVIN BRAGG TO SEEK
JUSTICE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
>> AND ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLAR BAIL WAS SET, THE PEOPLE
WALK OUT WITH NO BAIL.
BRIAN: WE ARE TALKING ISSUES
THAT WILL MOVE OTHERS IN 2024.
ANDERSON COOPER ADDRESSING
DONALD TRUMP’S APPEARANCE ON
CNN’S TOWNHALL, ATTACKING THE
FORMER PRESIDENT AND DEMONIZE,
THAT’S WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE,
REPUBLICAN AUDIENCE MEMBERS.
>> WAS DISTURBING TO HEAR THAT
AUDIENCE, YOUNG ADULT, FELLOW
CITIZENS, PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEIR
KIDS AND GO TO CHURCH, LAUGH
AND APPLAUD HIS LIES.
THAT MAN YOU ARE SO UPSET TO
HEAR FROM LAST NIGHT MAY BE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
AND LESS THAN TWO YEARS AND
THAT AUDIENCE IS A SAMPLING OF
ABOUT HALF THE COUNTRY.
THEY ARE YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS,
YOUR NEIGHBORS, THEY ARE
VOTING.
BRIAN: A LOT OF CONDESCENSION
DRIPPING FROM THAT LECTURE BY
ANDERSON COOPER BUT WHAT DO YOU
MAKE OF HIS RESPONSE TO THE
TOWNHALL WITH DONALD TRUMP?
>> HE WOULDN’T EVEN SAY TRUMP’S
NAME, THAT MAN.
WE CAN BE ADULTS AND TALK ABOUT
WHO THE PERSON IS, THE FORMER
PRESIDENT WHO WANTS TO BE
PRESIDENT AGAIN, PEOPLE WHO
KNOW ME AND KNOW MY COMMENTARY
KNOW THAT I’M NOT A HUGE TRUMP
GUY.
I THOUGHT HE HAD SOME GOOD
MOMENTS AND LESS GOOD MOMENTS
ON THE CNN TOWNHALL.
I’M FASCINATED BY CNN TEARING
ITSELF APART, THEY FINALLY HAD
A GOOD RATING FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN FOREVER IT FEELS LIKE,
AN AVERAGE NIGHT FOR THE FIVE
AN AMAZING RATING AND THEY ARE
SELF FLAGELLATING, INTERNAL
COMBUSTION HAPPENING, THEY ARE
SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER IN THE
PRESS, GOING AFTER THEIR OWN
NETWORK ON THE AIR.
IT IS A SIGHT TO SEE.
>> THEY COULD HAVE SAID GOOD
FOR US, WE ARE TELLING THE
WHOLE STORY, GIVING BOTH SIDES.
THERE SUCH AN OBVIOUS RESPONSE
TO THAT AND INSTEAD, THIS
ELABORATE SORT OF APOLOGY, SORT
OF VIRTUE SIGNAL ABOUT WHY THEY
DID IT AND IT SEEMS SO CONFUSED
AND THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO GET
THIS RIGHT IF THEY CAN’T GET
THAT.
>> WHAT IS THE STANDARD HERE?
YOU’VE GOT A LEADING
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, YOU
CAN’T INTERVIEW HIM?
JACKIE: CAN’T HAVE A
CONVERSATION ANYMORE.
>> IF HE’S LYING ABOUT CERTAIN
THINGS WHICH HE DOES SOMETIMES,
IT’S FINE TO PUSH BACK, THEY
HAD 68 PERSON PANEL AFTER THE
SHOW FOR TWO HOURS FACT
CHECKING EVERYTHING, THEY DID
THEIR THING.
IS ALL THIS ANGER AND BULLYING
GET OF CNN LEADERSHIP DESIGNED
TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS DON’T
HAPPEN AGAIN WITH DONALD TRUMP?
I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT
WORKS, WHETHER YOU LIKE HIM OR
NOT, WHETHER YOU THINK HE WOULD
BE TERRIBLE FOR THE COUNTRY OR
NOT, HE IS IN THE TOP POSITION
IN THE POLLS FOR A NOMINATION
OF A MAJOR PARTY FOR PRESIDENCY
OF THE UNITED STATES.
THAT IS A REALITY.
JACKIE: I SAID HE’S SMART,
TRYING TO TAKE THE NETWORK IN A
DIFFERENT DIRECTION TO HEAR
BOTH SIDES AND THIS IS A SMART
BUSINESS IN PROGRAMMING
DECISION AND IS TALENT TROUNCED
HIM FOR IT.
>> WONDER HOW MUCH LEADERSHIP
OVER THERE IS SAYING SAY WHAT
YOU HAVE TO SAY, YOU SAY WHAT
YOU NEED TO SAY OR IF THIS IS A