.
CHARLES: AND THE NUMBER ONE
REASON FOR ME ABOUT OUR
CAMPAIGN AND THE ISSUE THAT WE
RAN ON.
BUT, LOOK, THERE IS ALSO THAT
SEGMENT OF THIS POPULATION WHO
VOTED AGAINST ROY MOORE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
THAT'S NOT A BAD THING.
CHARLES: DOUG JONES ADDRESSING
THE MEDIA FOLLOWING LAST
NIGHT'S SPECIAL ELECTION TO
FILL JEFF SESSIONS' OLD SENATE
SEAT.
ALABAMA HAD NOT ELECTED A
DEMOCRAT SENATOR SINCE 1992,
AND REMEMBER, DONALD TRUMP WON
62% OF ALABAMA'S VOTE IN 2016.
WHAT EXACTLY DOES THE ROY MOORE
LOSS MEAN FOR THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE?
HERE TO DISCUSS IS LIZ PEEK
CONTRIBUTOR FOR THE HILL.
THIS, I THINK REPUBLICANS WOULD
BE MAKING A MAJOR MISTAKE AS
THEY WROTE THIS OFF AS ONLY
HAVING A BAD CANDIDATE?
>> I THINK IT WAS A BAD
CANDIDATE, I AGREE THERE ARE
LESSONS TO BE LEARNED HERE.
THE ARTICLE I WROTE HAD TO DO
WITH THE ISSUE OF SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT AND HOW IT'S
POLITICIZED.
I THINK THAT BOTH PARTIES AND
THE COUNTRY AT LARGE HAS TO BE
INCREDIBLY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS,
BECAUSE I THINK WOMEN COULD
REALLY BE HURT IF PEOPLE
CONFLATE SERIOUS CHARGES OF
RAPE AND SEXUAL ATTACKS WITH
INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR, AND
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW,
FIRST OF ALL THE WORKPLACE
CHANGES, ENORMOUSLY, THAT
DOESN'T BENEFIT WOMEN
PARTICULARLY, AND THEIR
COMPLAINTS CAN BE BELITTLED BY
PEOPLE.
CHARLES: YOU KNOW, CARRIE, YOU
BREAK DOWN THE VOTES LAST NIGHT
AND A LOT OF CRITICS OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY, WITHIN THE
PARTY, THAT SAID IT'S AN OLD
PARTY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
REACHING OUT TO BLACKS,
HISPANICS, WOMEN, MILLENNIALS,
COLLEGE-EDUCATED WHITES, LAST
NIGHT WAS A PRIME EXAMPLE WHY
THAT'S A DANGER SPOT COMING UP
WERE, IF YOU'RE ON THE
CONSERVATIVE SIDE, LAST NIGHT
WAS A DISAPPOINTING NIGHT.
I LOVE THE WORDS OF MARTIN
LUTHER KING, WE MUST ACCEPT
CHARLES: WHAT SPECIFICALLY WERE
YOU DISAPPOINTED ABOUT?
WHAT IS THE KEY ISSUE FOR YOU?
SENATE.
TO ME, THAT IS SAD, AND THEN IN
TERMS OF ROY MOORE, THE
MESSAGING, I AGREE WITH LIZ,
AROUND WOMEN AND HOW WE TREAT
THEM.
THE OVERALL CLIMATE RIGHT NOW
IS OBVIOUSLY, I'M GLAD WE'RE
HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WHERE
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES
OPENLY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IS BEING
A LEADER IN THIS AND NOT A
LAGGING INDICATOR IN THIS.
CASE, SO TO SAY WE CAN HAVE
PARAMETERS HERE, THIS IS A
WAKE-UP CALL, WE HAVE
STANDARDS.
CHARLES: NOT EVER REPUBLICAN
WAS SAD ABOUT IT, RIGHT?
SOME OF THE MORE ESTABLISHMENT
LET'S ROLL THAT.
>> STEVE BANNON, THE PRESIDENT
DID THE RIGHT THING IN GETTING
RID OF HIM FROM THE WHITE
HOUSE, LAST SUMMER.
I DON'T CONSIDER HIM A
CONSERVATIVE.
HE SAYS HE'S AN IRISH CATHOLIC
WORKING GUY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO BE
SARCASTIC.
HE HAS BROUGHT HATE IN
POLITICS, AND IT BACKFIRED IN
ALABAMA.
HOUSE, VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION
FOR PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN THE
WHITE HOUSE.
SCENE, TO THE GOVERNMENTAL
SCENE.
>> I THINK THAT KIND OF COMMENT
APPEARS WHEN THEY WALK INTO A
ROOM.
THAT'S PETTY STUFF.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT YOU'RE
SEEING A PART OF THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY WANTING IMMEDIATELY TO
PLACE BLAME ON STEVE BANNON.
LOOK, THERE'S A LOT OF HANDS IN
THIS THAT NEED TO RELOOK HOW
THEY HANDLED.
THIS A LOT OF PEOPLE FELT THAT
MEL BROOKS, WHO COULD HAVE BEEN
THE PERFECT CANDIDATE PUSHED
OUT OF THE WAY BY MITCH
McCONNELL, BECAUSE HE BEAT
LUTHER STRANGE, BROOKS WOULD BE
ANSWERABLE TO THE PRESIDENT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THE BEHAVIORS
GOING ON THAT ENDED UP BEING A
PERFECTLY EXPECTED REPUBLICAN
SCREWUP.
BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK, WHAT
STATES AND I WANT THE
PRESIDENT'S AGENDA TO WORK.
IT'S A REMINDER THAT WE NEED TO
HAVE GREAT CANDIDATES THAT CAN
WIN IN GENERAL.
NO ONE SHOULD TAKE ANYTHING FOR
GRANTED.
CHARLES: RIGHT.
>> BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IN THE
HAVE TO WORK HARD.
THE BIG PROBLEMS FOR THE
PRESIDENT ARE McCAIN, COLLINS
AND MURKOWSKI, NOT NECESSARILY
MR. JONES.
AND REMEMBER THE NAME SCOTT
BROWN.
ANOTHER SPECIAL ELECTION, HE
WON.
HE COULD NOT WIN THE REAL
ELECTION.
CHARLES: THE CONVENTIONAL
WISDOM IS THAT JONES WILL BE
IN.
WHAT ABOUT THIS GUY, 2017
SCOREBOARD.
THE CHAMBER OF WASHINGTON
SENATE, CONTROL OF TWO STATES,
VERSUS THE GOP, 4.
THAT'S MOMENTUM.
I DON'T KNOW IF IN POLITICS
THEY CALL THAT A WAVE, CAN IT
BECOME A TSUNAMI?
SPECIAL ELECTION, IT HASN'T
BEEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
JON OSSOFF IS A SIMILAR
SITUATION, TERRIBLE CANDIDATE,
AN EMPTY SUIT THAT THE
DEMOCRATS PUT ENORMOUS AMOUNTS
OF MONEY BEHIND.
IT COMES DOWN TO THE CANDIDATE.
>> IT WAS A VERY COMPETITIVE
RACE IN A RED DISTRICT.
TO THE POINT ABOUT REACHING
YOUNGER PEOPLE.
THE MESSAGE FROM ROY MOORE,
PEOPLE.
CHARLES: THE DEMOCRATS WERE
BRILLIANT, TO BE QUITE FRANK
WITH YOU, TO BRING UP THE RACE
THINGS IN THE LAST WEEK.
AMAZING, SOME OF THE THINGS I