This country is getting a taste of not only what happens when you ban abortion
but when you allow religious zealots to write those abortion bans.
And what happens is people who do want to have kids are immediately
also put in danger.
And their lives are threatened and we're starting to understand that now.
Remember, one in four pregnancies,
one in four pregnancies ends in miscarriage, right?
How do you most effectively and safely remove fetal tissue when
you're having a miscarriage, when you've had a miscarriage,
process is known as the DNC or a DNE to extract that fetus.
That again, not viable, person wanted to be pregnant etc.
Not so anymore, under Draconian Anti-Abortion laws, we're now seeing
women who are miscarrying be left to bleed out and to actually risk infection.
And one of those women is Marlena Stell of Texas.
And this happened to her last year actually if you remember, right after
the abortion ban, the fetal heartbeat ban that essentially deputized citizens of
texas to become vigilantes and to sue individual abortion providers and doctors.
Right after that went into effect, she was miscarrying and here is part of her story.
Stell's nightmare started out as a dream come true after months of trying,
she became pregnant late last summer.
>> We were super excited because we didn't think I could get pregnant.
An ultrasound at sevenand a half weeks showed all was well.
But at an ultrasound two weeks later, >> She said there is no heartbeat,
there is no viable pregnancy.
>> Stell asked her doctor for a standard treatment,
a surgery to remove the fetal remains.
She says her doctor refused.
That surgery commonly known as the DNC is the same procedure
used to abort a living fetus.
>> She said well, because of the new law that's passed, you're gonna
have to get another ultrasound for me to be able to even do anything for you.
>> Right, so her doctor refused to give her this procedure.
And what happens when someone has refused a procedure like a DNC for
a routine miscarriage?
Let's go to that right now.
>> She can develop an infection that can make her sterile and
never able to have children again.
>> Or even worse, the baby dies inside, the baby starts to release
parts of its tissue that can get into the mother's blood supply.
>> It can cause organ failure, it can cause death.
>> Organ failure, sterilization, these are the results of the so called pro-life
anti-abortion bans that places like texas are currently undergoing obviously.
A lot of this we're gonna get into has created a legal and
ethical nightmare for doctors but also for patients themselves.
What is the final act of what happened to Marlena?
Where is she at now?
What happened to her?
>> She did finally manage to find a doctor to perform her DNC but it took two weeks.
She worries the nightmare could happen to her again.
>> Are you trying to get pregnant again?
>> No. >> Why not?
I'm worried about getting infected, have something happen to me and
then my daughter's left without her mom.
>> Now they're contemplating moving away from Texas away from their extended family
just so they can try to get pregnant again.
>> That's right, she is all ready a mom.
Wanted a little brother or sister for her daughter and was denied that.
Now too afraid to get pregnant again.
Again I just wanna reiterate that that happened last year but
this year it's only worse.
In fact, just a few days ago, the Texas Medical Association sent
the Texas Medical Board a letter saying, you gotta do something
about these bans because our hospitals are completely in disarray.
Physicians are not treating ectopic pregnancies.
In fact, one central Texas physician was told to wait until
the ectopic pregnancy ruptured before treating it.
Ectopic pregnancies are when a pregnancy begins outside of the Uterus.
So in the fallopian tubes for example, it happens to 1 in 50 pregnancies.
Now that's not a lot.
Not as much as one in four but still life threatening.
So it's not just miscarriages, its ectopic pregnancies.
Again, all people who wanted to be parents.
>> So, first let's start with obvious, Republicans are monsters.
So this is not a close call.
The doctor says you have to get the dead fetus out
otherwise it can kill the woman who is alive.
And the pro life party says, no I don't care about that woman at all.
Let her die if we want to.
The fetus is all ready dead what difference does it make, nah,
I don't know man, I just wanna control her body for two more weeks.
I mean, if you're a Republican you're sitting,
I don't care about her life at all, at all.
Organ failure have it, I don't care.
A dead fetus is worth more to a Republican than a live woman.
>> Yep.
>> Facts, facts.
So now when I see things like that on the show or in social media,
I get largely two reactions from right wingers.
One is, no Republican actually believes that, really?
Because it's the law and so she didn't make it up.
She actually had to go through that.
And by the way, we now have story after story.
In fact, our very next story in the show is about something similar in Louisiana.
And just yesterday, Idaho GOP overwhelmingly
passed revisions, their platform.
The law in Idaho was trigger law that once Rose overturn.
You get to, the Idaho got to outlaw abortion,
but it had exceptions for rape incest and life of the mother.
And the Republicans in Idaho thought that was far too moral and decent.
They said, how can we be way more immoral towards women and
crushed their lives and oppress them in every possible way.
I got an idea of rape and incest of course, no one cares.
There's no way that we are going to care about a woman getting raped or
suffering from incest.
She'll have the rapist baby and she'll like it.
Said the Republicans, look, these are facts.
If you don't like it, then don't be a Republican.
But on top of that they said, we don't give a rat's as if the mom dies,
they took away the exception for the life of the mother.
These are the pro-life people, they're not pro-life at all.
>> Right.
>> At all, all their pro-oppression, anything to oppress women,
and they'll love it, they'll love it.
So the second reaction that I get from right wingers is, well,
she shouldn't have sex.
Okay, so it is about controlling the woman.
That's what I thought, okay.
And by the way, you're not bitter that she's having sex,
you're better that she's not having sex with you.
So let's keep it real.
The loser men of the Republican party who sit there pathetic and go,
well, I wanna control with no women will be with me.
How can I control them in some other way?
Okay, so that's just the reality of the pathetic state of the Republican party.
And if you don't like it, well I'd like her, that lady dying a lot less
then you dislike being called names, names that are perfectly accurate.
>> Yeah, I mean and this will impact their own families, right?
But maybe they'll be able to like fly their families and their wives and
their spouses across the country to find an abortion, right?
Maybe they will get the pill and then tell no one about it.
But again, this is not just elective abortion.
This is non-elective abortion.
Also known as miscarriage, right?
And so this is about maternal health.
And as someone who's six months pregnant high, you're damn right I'm giving
a lot of attention and care a lot about maternal health because knock on wood.
But if something were to happen to me and I live in Texas, Forget it,
forget it, I am in trouble.
I had a friend recently miscarry, if she were outside of California, forget it.
She's dealing with that not to say nothing of the physical pain,
the emotional pain of being denied care of having you're all ready
a loss that you didn't want be prolonged and protracted because
these doctors won't attend to your needs is absolute criminal.
So Jenk is right.
Let's just read the Idaho GOP convention in Twin Falls on saturday.
The delegates approved changes to the party's platform that
criminalize all abortions.
No exception for rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.
They don't care.
The platform states,
we affirm that abortion is murder from the moment of fertilization.
Funny you start there, what about before.
All children should be protected regardless of the circumstances of
conception, including persons conceived in rape and incest.
Old chuck, they don't even have a heartbeat.
And guess final point, so the Texas Heartbeat Bill for example,
bans abortion at around when a fetal heartbeat can be detected.
But oftentimes you don't actually ever get a fetal heartbeat, it's not clear.
And especially in cases of pregnancy complications,
you might never get a heartbeat, right?
You might be beyond si weeks, seven, eight, nine weeks and you don't,
that's the whole point.
And if Texans say, okay, well we're not Idaho, we've got carve outs were not
that awful, we're not that ruthless, we carve out for the life of the mother.
Here's a mom, including so many others who are being forced to give
take ectopic pregnancies to their natural conclusion, which is what?
Their death, pretty much.
Their emergency room death or they pray that if they have a rupture
that they'll hemorrhage, but they won't hemorrhage too much.
And they'll have, just there won't be many people in the that day and
damn it they'll be fine and someone will save their life.
>> Yeah, now I have no respect left for any Republican.
So if you can't understand that a pregnancy happens inside the uterus.
And if it happens in the fallopian tubes,
that it has no chance of survival, you don't understand anything.
Then you don't understand that two plus equals four.
You don't understand anything.
And and the thing about the Republican party is now they celebrate their
ignorance.
So they go, we don't know how pregnancies work, we don't care,
when do we get to make the woman's suffer?
[LAUGH] Yeah, yeah, that's you guys Republicans.
That's exactly who you are.
The Idaho vote was not close.
You know what it was?
There is 412 to 164 in the GOP Caucus for
saying we don't care at all of the life of the mom is in danger.
She is to have, the government is to seize her body.
Big government is to get between her and her doctor.
She is not allowed to make that private choice.
[LAUGH] We finally got her.
We're back in control of women's bodies.
Say the sick sons of bitches who are Republicans in this country.
So just admit it.
You don't care about life, all you want to do is to have the power in
what you would call the freedom to oppress others.
And and by the way, Francesca is right about everything she said there,
including the family of the women,
were not all of us are monsters like you guys Republican men.
So I know plenty of guys who had wives who had miscarriages very similar
to that lady in the report where there's the fetus is not alive.
It doesn't have a heartbeat, it's not a functioning pregnancy.
And we decent men of the world think, well let's help her immediately.
The indecent immoral men of the world,
otherwise known as Republicans go, maybe we let her die.
Who cares about her or life.
Finally, we're back in charge of other people's bodies.
That's the state of the Republican party.
That is an indisputable fact.
Don't come and tell me that, you don't agree with that but you voted for
every single legislator that does agree with that.
>> Yep. >> That means you do agree that don't come
to me with well, I got tax cuts.
So I don't care about women and I don't care if they die.
Okay, then you're a terrible, terrible person.
Okay,so go, just you don't understand science, you don't understand anything.
It's impossible to not be super frustrated by these guys.
And finally, they shouldn't have had sex argument.
Okay, so that woman's life is in danger for
at least two weeks in that particular story, it could be a lot longer.
And if it's in the fallopian tubes,
they're gonna kill all the women that have that problem.
That's one out of 50.
That's 2% of all the pregnancies in the country.
That is hundreds of thousands of people.
They are going to risk killing them all.
And so, and then they say, I shouldn't have sex.
Okay, first of all duly noted,
no one should ever have sex with a Republican man.
>> [LAUGH] >> They are dangerous, okay?
And they're stupid and they will try to ruin your lives.
So don't make that mistake, women of America.
And second of all, okay, how about the men who had that?
You know what, sex is not a one way street, I know for
a Republican men, it is.
>> Is you do it on all on your own.
But normally, you need someone else as a partner, okay?
And so if her life is in danger, can we put your life in danger for two weeks?
Can we hang you by your feet off a cliff and go, well,
we probably won't drop you, yet there's some percentage chance that we will.
But hey, you shouldn't have had sex.
>> Once she's safe, we'll let you go.
>> Yeah, that's right, Francesca, perfect point.
The minute the woman is safe, the man is safe, we can come up with other,
different ways to torture the man who made the mistake of having sex because you're
finding different ways to torture the women.
>> Yep. That's real, that's real,
it's not theoretical.
Those are real women you saw her with your own eyes.
And they say, keep the dead fetus inside of you and
we're gonna torture you with that for weeks, okay, where's the guy at?
I mean, show me a Republican man,
let's do the same exact torture until maybe we stuff a dead,
any carcass inside his body and now you carry that for two week, okay?
Why is that not the same thing?
>> Take whatever is on ted Cruz's face and put it on the inside of him.
Yeah, yeah, we can find a way to get inside, you don't worry, okay.
And so, same rules, same rules.
But if it's applied to men, all of a sudden Republicans are out.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You can't do that to a cherished man.
Women you can do anything you want to.
If you're a woman, you vote for Republicans,
you're giving away all of your rights.
So good luck to you.
I hope that the new American taliban are kind to their women, but I know for
a fact that they are not.
>> Yeah.
>> So enjoy your fundamentalist lunatic party.