FREE SOCIETY AGAINST THE
AUTOCRATIC SOCIETY SEEKING TO
REPRESS IT.
>> YOU KNOW, IN HIS LATEST
EDITORIAL ENTITLED "THE
PRESIDENT WE HAVE," THE "WALL
STREET JOURNAL" EDITORIAL BOARD
WRITES THIS.
MR. BIDEN WOULD ALSO BE WISE TO
BRING SOME HIGH-PROFILE
CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS
INTO HIS ADMINISTRATION.
IN 1940, AS THE PROSPECT OF
WORLD WAR APPROACHED, FDR
BROUGHT IN EXPERIENCED GOP
INTERNATIONALALLISTS, HENRY STEN
SON AS SECRETARY OF WAR AND
FRANK KNOT AS SECRETARY OF THE
NAVY.
THEY BUILT CREDIBILITY WITH THE
PUBLIC AND ON CAPITOL HILL FOR
THE HARD CHOICES TO COME.
HARRY TRUMAN WORKED WITH GOP
SENATOR ARTHUR VANDENBERG TO
BUILD SUPPORT FOR NATO AT THE
DAWN OF THE COLD WAR.
JIMMY CARTER AT LEAST HAD THE
HAWKIST BRINGING BRZEZINSKI AS
HIS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
WHEN THEY TRIED TO EXPLOIT
PRESIDENT CARTER'S WEAKNESS.
MR. BIDEN DESPERATELY NEEDS TO
DIVERSIFY THE ADVICE HE GETS
BEYOND THE LIBERAL
INTERNATIONALISTS WHO DOMINATE
HIS COUNCILS.
BETTER ADVICE IS NEEDED BECAUSE
MR. BIDER IS RIGHT THAT THE
RUSSIA PRESIDENT WON'T GO AWAY.
IT IS MY FATHER'S BIRTHDAY AND
THINKING ABOUT HIM A LOT.
MY FATHER, AS YOU KNOW, JOE,
EDUCATED ME ABOUT DEMOCRACY, BUT
YOU ALSO KNOW IT WAS HIS
INCREDIBLE STRATEGIC MIND THAT
REALLY INTIMIDATED ME
INTELLECTUALLY.
OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS I HEAR
HIS VOICE IN BOTH OF MY BROTHERS
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
I TALK TO THEM ALL THE TIME NOW.
MARK, WHO IS SERVING AS
AMBASSADOR TO POLAND RIGHT NOW.
IAN, WHO WORKED FOR PRESIDENT
BUSH, HE IS THE REPUBLICAN, THEY
HAVE VERY DIFFERENT POINTS OF
VIEW ON MANY THINGS AND EVEN ON
THIS WAR.
BUT WHEN I TALK TO MARK AND IAN
ALL THE TIME NOW, THEY BOTH HAVE
ABSOLUTELY STEPPED INTO THIS
SPACE.
I HEAR HIM, I HEAR OUR FAMILY
DEBATES EVEN, I HEAR HIS VOICE,
AND IT IS VERY CALMING AND IT IS
WONDERFUL.
I HEAR HIM IN THE CLEAREST WAY
SINCE THE DAY HE DIED.
ED, YOU HAVE BEEN WRITING A BOOK
ABOUT MY FATHER, HIS ENTIRE LIFE
AND HIS WORLD VIEW, AND YOU HAVE
BEEN TALKING TO MY BROTHERS AS
WELL.
I AM WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ANY
THOUGHTS TO OFFER?
>> YEAH, WELL, I MEAN I COULDN'T
ADD TO YOUR MEMORY, YOUR
EXTRAORDINARY MEMORIES OF YOUR
DAD. I KNOW THAT HE SUBJECTED YOU AND
I KNOW THAT HE SUBJECTED YOU AND
YOUR BROTHERS TO PRETTY STREN
YUPS
STRENUOUS DEBATES WHEN YOU WERE
CHILDREN ABOUT GEOPOLITICS SO IT
IS IN YOUR BLOOD.
I WAS STRUCK WHEN PRESIDENT
BIDEN IN WARSAW OVER THE WEEKEND
TURNS TO POLAND'S PRESIDENT AND
SAYS, WE BROUGHT YOU A
BRZEZINSKI, WE BROUGHT YOU THE
BEST.
THE FACT THERE'S A BRZEZINSKI IN
POLAND RIGHT NOW IS AN
EXTRAORDINARY TURN OF HISTORY.
HE IS HAVING A BAPTISM OF FIRE
AS AN AMBASSADOR, AND THERE
COULDN'T BE ANYBODY BETTER
QUALIFIED IN TERMS OF BEING A
POLISH SPEAKER, OF HAVING LIVED
IN POLAND AND WITH THE
BRZEZINSKI NAME IN POLAND RIGHT
NOW BECAUSE THE BRZEZINSKI NAME
IS ANOTHER EXPRESSION OF THE
MESSAGE IN THE SPEECH THAT BIDEN
GAVE.
I DON'T SPEAK ILL OF FELLOW
NEWSPAPERS, BUFF IT I HAVE TO SA
THOUGHT THE "WALL STREET
JOURNAL" SAYING REPUBLICANS
SHOULD BE BROUGHT INTO THE
ADMINISTRATION, WELL, WE WOULD
HAVE TO NARROW IT DOWN BECAUSE
WHICH REPUBLICANS?
>> RIGHT.
>> HOW MANY REPUBLICANS ARE
THERE AVAILABLE WHO HAVE NOT
BACKED PUTIN AND WHO HAVE NOT
BACKED TRUMP'S RELATIONSHIP WITH
PUTIN AND HIS ATTEMPT TO
UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY IN UKRAINE
AND HIS EXTRAORDINARY SORT OF
CONSPIRATORIAL ADMIRING
RELATIONSHIP?
IF YOU WANT A SPLIT SCREEN,
BIDEN SPEAKING IN WARSAW THIS
WEEKEND SHOULD HAVE TRUMP IN
HELSINKI ACCEPTING PUTIN'S
EXPLANATION THAT RUSSIA DIDN'T
INTERFERE IN THE 2016 ELECTIONS.
THAT'S THE SPLIT SCREEN.
JUST A FINAL POINT, THE "WALL
STREET JOURNAL" MENTIONED YOUR
FATHER QUITE RIGHTLY AS A GREAT
ASSET FOR PRESIDENT CARTER BUT
HE WAS A DEMOCRAT, NOT A
REPUBLICAN.
>> YES.
NO, BUT HE SPOKE HIS MIND AND
OFTEN SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH
PEOPLE WHO DISAGREED WITH HIM
FOR THAT VERY REASON THAT THE
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" WAS
TALKING ABOUT.
THERE ARE REPUBLICANS WHO COULD
BE VERY USEFUL.
I KNOW -- I UNDERSTAND, ED, WHAT
HAS HAPPENED OVER THE PAST FOUR
YEARS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I SPEAK TO
MY BROTHER ABOUT WHAT IS GOING
ON IN POLAND, JOE.
BUT WHEN I WASN'T TO BE FORCED
TO THINK I CALL IAN BECAUSE HE
REALLY MAKES ME THINK AND HE'S
GOT A DIFFERENT ANGLE TOWARD
THIS AND THEY'RE BOTH VALUABLE.
>> YOU KNOW, I LISTEN TO BOTH OF
THEM AND ACTUALLY THEY ACTUALLY
ARE A GOOD SYNTHESIS OF, IF YOU
READ YOUR FATHER'S WRITINGS,
WHERE YOUR FATHER WOULD BE.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT, ADMIRAL STAVRIDIS, I
TOO, WHILE I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" EDITORIAL
PAGE SAYING NICE THINGS ABOUT
DR. BRZEZINSKI, I AM NOT EXACTLY
SURE HOW THIS WAR WILL END BUT I
DO KNOW HOW HIPS TORREY ISSTORY
LOOK AT WHAT JOE BIDEN HAS DONE
AND I THINK HE HAS BEEN VERY
MASTERFUL.
I WAS HYPERCRITICAL OF
AFGHANISTAN.
I HAVE BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF
MANY OF HIS DOMESTIC POLICIES,
BUT I WILL TELL YOU, AND I'M
CURIOUS AND YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT
THIS THAN I DO, BUT JOE BIDEN
HAS TAKEN HIS TIME WHEN HE HAS
NEEDED TO, TO PULL THE COUNTRY
WITH HIM, TO PULL OUR ALLIANCE
TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.
HE DID NOT GET IN FRONT OF THE
GERMANS.
HE DID NOT GET IN FRONT OF THE
FRENCH.
I BELIEVE HE HAS PLAYED IT MAGS
MASTERFULLY.
HE HASN'T GONE AS QUICKLY AS THE
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" EDITORIAL
BOARD OR OTHERS WOULD HAVE
LIKED, BUT WE STILL HAVE AN
ALLIANCE TOGETHER WITH ABOUT 30
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES THAT WANT TO
DO 30 DIFFERENT THINGS.
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT.
>> INDEED, JOE.
VERY QUICKLY, TWO REPUBLICANS,
HOW ABOUT BOB GATES OR HOW ABOUT
CONDI RICE, BOTH OF WHOM HAVE
Ph.D.s IN RUSSIAN STUDIES,
CURRENT IN EVERY WAY, BRILLIANT
STRATEGIC THINKERS.
THAT WOULD BE THE TOP OF MY
LIST.
BREAK, BREAK.
THE NATO ALLIANCE, AS YOU SAY,
IT IS KIND OF LIKE 30 PEOPLE ON
A BICYCLE, AND GENERALLY
SPEAKING A FEW PEOPLE ARE UP AT
THE FRONT PEDALING REALLY FAST,
THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN THE
MIDDLE KIND OF GOING ALONG,
THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE IN THE BACK
NOT PEDALING ALTHOUGH THEY'RE
STILL DRAFTING.
THIS IS NOT THAT CASE AND I GIVE
CREDIT TO TONY BLINKEN AND HIS
TEAM AND JAKE SULLIVAN AND HIS
TEAM.
THEY'VE BEEN ON FOOT PATROL
THROUGHOUT EUROPE FOR MONTHS
PULLING THIS TOGETHER.
BY THE WAY, JOE, IT IS NOT JUST
THOSE 30.
BACK TO THE THEME OF VLADIMIR
PUTIN'S HEAD EXPLODING BECAUSE
HE IS GOING TO GET WHAT HE
DOESN'T WANT, HOW DO YOU LIKE
THE IDEA OF SWEDEN AND FINLAND
JOINING NATO, BECOMING MORE REAL
BY THE MOMENT.
>> YEAH.
>> LAST THOUGHT, GERMANY.
IF YOU TOLD ME WHEN I WAS
SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER THEY
WOULD ADD 100 BILLION EUROS TO
THEIR DEFENSE BUDGET,
EFFECTIVELY DOUBLING IT, I WOULD
HAVE FALLEN OVER ON MY FACE.
REMARKABLE.
IT IS PARALLELED ACROSS THE
EUROPEAN CONTINENT.
I THINK STRONG RESPONSE IS HERE.
VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS CREATED THAT.
IF THERE'S A SILVER LINING TO
THIS, IT IS THE ALLIANCE'S
UNITY.
>> BY THE WAY, ADMIRAL, ONE
THING THAT CONDI RICE AND BOB
GATES HAVE IN COMMON ALONG WITH
MAD LIBRARY
MADELEINE ALBRIGHT AND SO MANY
OTHERS, THEY WORKED FOR
DR. BRZEZINSKI IN THE CARTER
WHITE HOUSE.
HE DID BELIEVE IN SURROUNDING
HIMSELF WITH PEOPLE WITH
DIFFERING VIEWS, SO THANK YOU SO