>>> WELCOME BACK. JOINING US NOW IS THE MAYOR OF
NEW YORK CITY, BILL DE BLASIO.
WE’VE GOT A MILLION QUESTIONS TO
ASK YOU ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF
WHAT YOU’RE DOING IN TERMS OF
PREVENTION AND WHAT’S HAPPENING
DOWNTOWN AFTER HURRICANE SANDY,
STOPPING SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF
THE NEXT STORM BUT I WANT TO ASK
ASK YOU FIRST IN RESPONSE TO
WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN NEW
ZEALAND.
ZEALAND. WHAT’S BEING DONE TO PROTECT
WORSHIPPERS IN OUR MOSQUES?
>> IT IS A HORRIFYING ATTACK IN
NEW ZEALAND AND CAUSING A LOT OF
PAIN AND A LOT OF FEAR IN THE
UNITED STATES INCLUDING THE
MUSLIM COMMUNITY IN NEW YORK
CITY.
CITY. IT’S A COMMUNITY THAT
CONTRIBUTES A LOT BACK.
WE HAVE 900 MUSLIM OFFICERS IN
THE NYPD FOR EXAMPLE SO A
COMMUNITY THAT GIVES BACK TO NEW
YORK CITY.
YORK CITY. WE’RE GOING TO BE PROTECTING
THEM TODAY.
THEM TODAY. NYPD IS GOING TO BE OUT IN
FORCE.
FORCE. I’LL BE REACHING OUT TO MUSLIM
COMMUNITY LEADERS.
COMMUNITY LEADERS. IT’S LIKE THE ATTACK IN
PITTSBURGH
PITTSBURGH PITTSBURGH, YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT
A MEMBER OF ANY FAITH FEELS
AFTER THEY SEE A HOUSE OF
WORSHIP DESECRATED AND MADE A
KILLING GROUND.
KILLING GROUND. THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW THEY
WILL BE PROTECTED AND BRACED AND
SO YOU’LL SEE THAT IN NEW YORK
CITY TODAY.
CITY TODAY. YOU’LL SEE A LOT OF PROTECTION.
>> WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING ON
THE COMMERCIAL BREAK HOW
TERRIBLE IT IS HOW MANY HOUSES
OF WORSHIP WE HAVE TO PROTECT IN
RESPONSE TO THESE.
I LIVE NEXT TO A SYNAGOGUE AND
EVERY SATURDAY MORNING THERE’S A
SHOW OF FORCE FROM THE NYPD AND
THE NUMBER OF HOUSES OF WORSHIP
CONTINUES TO GROW.
>> AND THERE’S AN INTOLERANCE
THAT’S BEING SPREAD IN THIS
COUNTRY AND THIS WORLD.
WE SEE IT IN EUROPE ON VOUSLY AS
WELL AND WE HAVE TO DEFEAT THAT.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE ALSO
HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE WILL
PROTECT PEOPLE THAT A TRULY
INCLUSIVE SOCIETY DOESN’T JUST
DO IT IN WORDS BUT IN DEEDS.
THAT WE HAVE THAT POLICE
PRESENCE.
PRESENCE. WE SHOW OVERTLY THE GOVERNMENT
IS ON THE SIDE OF ALL FAITH
COMMUNITIES.
COMMUNITIES. THIS IS AN AMERICAN VALUE.
WE DID NOT HAVE A SINGLE STATE
RELIGION.
RELIGION. OUR FOUNDERS WERE VERY CLEAR
ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT THAT. THEY SAID WE WOULD RESPECT EACH
FAITH.
FAITH. WE WOULD RESPECT PEOPLE WHO
CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE IN A
PARTICULAR FAITH.
PARTICULAR FAITH. WE’VE GOT TO LIVE THAT NOW.
LEADERS WILL NOW SHOW UP.
THEY SHOULD DO IT ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY, ATMOS K MOSQUES, BUT WE
GOT TO DO IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
>> CAN I SHIFT GEARS?
AS A NEW YORKER I WAS DEAF
STATED WHEN WE LOST AMAZON.
EVERY ONE OF THOSE JOBS HAD
TAXES AND DRY CLEANERS.
WHAT’S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IN
THAT?
THAT? WHAT COULD WE HAVE DONE
DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THAT SHOULD
NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
>> WE HAD A VERY FAIR DEAL WITH
AMAZON.
AMAZON. THE GOVERNOR AND I CAME TO AN
AGREEMENT WITH AMAZON.
THERE WAS NEVER ANY INDICATION
THAT THEY WERE THINKING OF
LEAVING.
LEAVING. THEY ACCEPTED THE DEAL VERY
PUBLICLY AND THERE WERE
CRITICISMS RAISED.
CRITICISMS RAISED. YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR CRITICISMS.
SOME COULD HAVE BEEN EASILY
ANSWERED AND THAT’S WHAT WE WERE
TRYING TO STEER TOWARD.
>> AND TO ME, AOC WAS SO
PATHETIC TO HEAR HER TALK ABOUT
THAT WE’RE GOING TO GIVE 3
BILLION IN CASH.
IT’S NOT CASH OBVIOUSLY, BUT
THERE ARE SO MANY
CONSTITUENCIES, YOURSELF AND THE
GOVERNOR, SHOULDN’T YOU HAVE HAD
THOSE DUCKS LINED UP?
>> EVERY POLL SHOWED A CLEAR
MAJORITY BELIEVED THAT GETTING
THOSE 25,000 JOBS AND THE HUGE
AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE THAT WE
COULD HAVE USED FOR MASS
TRANSSITZ, EDUCATION, PUBLIC
HOUSING, THAT WAS CLEARLY
SUPPORTED.
SUPPORTED. THERE WERE RELATIVELY FEW VOICES
AGAINST IT.
AGAINST IT. AMAZON MADE THAT DECISION.
WE WOULD HAVE HAPPILY WORKED
WITH THEM TO RESOLVE AND ADDRESS
THE COMMUNITY ISSUES BUT IN THE
MIDDLE OF NOWHERE WE GET A BOARD
ROOM THAT THEY’RE TAKING THE
BALL AND GOING HOME.
>> WASN’T ABOUT THE STATE SENATE
AND THE BOARD’S EFFORT TO CREATE
THE PERSON ON THIS BOARD WHO HAS
TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT, BUT IT
REALLY WAS THE COMPLIANCE ISSUE
THAT WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS A
MUCH BIGGER LOBBYING ISSUE.
>> >> IT WAS WELL KNOWN THAT
THAT WAS RESOLVABLE.
THAT THE GOVERN NAR HAD THE
RIGHT TO ADJUST THAT SITUATION.
THIS WAS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
IT HAD CLEAR POPULAR SUPPORT.
UNFORTUNATELY AMAZON CONFIRMED
EVERYONE’S WORST FEARS BY
LEAVING A COMMUNITY HIGH AND
DRY.
DRY. WE’VE GOT TO PUT THIS CLEARLY
WHERE IT BELONGS.
HAD AMAZON WANTED TO CONTINUE A
DIALOG THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE
BEEN MOVING FORWARD.
>> ONE OF THE REASONS THEY WERE
CONSIDERING IT WAS BECAUSE THEY
WERE GETTING TAX RELIEF.
IT’S SO EXPENSIVE TO BE IN NEW
YORK AND YOU NEED THOSE
INCENTIVES, THAT WAS 3 BILLION.
NOW YOU HAVE THE HUDSON YARDS
OPENING WHICH IS FANTASTIC NEWS
FOR NEW YORK.
WITH OVER $5 BILLION IN
INCENTIVES AND WE NEVER HEARD
ANYTHING AND NOW I GUESS I JUST
WANT TO PIGGY BACK THAT ON TO
YOU GOING TO NEW HAMPSHIRE
TOMORROW AND ASK YOU, DO YOU
BELIEVE IN THE CAPITALIST
SYSTEM?
SYSTEM? >> I BELIEVE IN -- I’M A SOCIAL
DEMOCRAT.
DEMOCRAT. I BELIEVE THAT WE’RE LIVING IN A
CAPITALIST SYSTEM THAT HAS
STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES AND WE
HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM IN
GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS
SUBSTANTIALLY CONSISTENTLY PUT
WEALTH IN THE HANDS OF THE 1%.
THAT’S WHY I SAY VERY CLEARLY,
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THIS
YEAR OUT LOUD SAY OUR NATIONAL
GOVERNMENT FROM RONALD REAGAN TO
PRESENT HAS CONTINUED TO EMPOWER
THE 1% THROUGH THE POWERS OF
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY HAVE NOT BENEFITTED SO I
SAY THERE’S PLENTY OF MONEY IN
THIS WORLD AND THERE’S PLENTY OF
MONEY IN THIS COUNTRY BUT IT’S
IN THE WRONG HANDS AND WE HAVE
TO HAVE POLICIES THAT GIVE
PEOPLE A CHANCE AGAIN BY
REDISTRIBUTING SOME OF THAT
MONEY BACK TO WORKING PEOPLE.
>> SO DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A
CAPITALIST?
CAPITALIST? >> I CONSIDER MYSELF A SOCIAL
DEMOCRAT.
DEMOCRAT. >> SO NOT A CAPITALIST.
YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN CAPITALISM.
>> I’M NOT SAYING THAT MY
FRIEND.
FRIEND. WE’RE LIVING IN A CAPITALIST
SOCIETY.
SOCIETY. I IDENTIFY AS A SOCIAL DEMOCRAT.
A NEW DEAL DEMOCRAT, I BELIEVE
LIBERATION THEOLOGY HAS BEEN AN
IMPORTANT INFLUENCE ON MY LIFE.
WHAT IS FAIRNESS, WHAT ARE WE
HERE TO DO IN THIS WORLD?
WE’RE NOT HERE TO HAVE
GOVERNMENT POLICIES THAT MAKE
THE RICH RICHER WHILE WORKING
PEOPLE WORK HARDER THAN EVER AND
GET LESS AND LESS BACK.
>> BUT YOU ALLOW HUDSON YARDS TO
COME FORWARD.
COME FORWARD. >> THAT AS YOU KNOW WAS MADE IN
THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
>> SO WHY IS THE FAILURE OF
AMAZON NOT INDICKATIVE OF THE
SOCIAL DEMIOCRATIC VIEW TOWARD
CAPITALISM.
CAPITALISM. >> THEY WERE URGED THERE.
>> ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE WITH THAT
RESPECTFULLY.
RESPECTFULLY. FIRST I THINK WE COULD ALL SAY
THAT UNUSUAL THINGS WERE
HAPPENING WITHIN THE AMAZON
FAMILY AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME.
AND THAT WAS SAID POLITELY.
THERE WAS CLEARLY SOME UNUSUAL
FACTORS HAPPENING.
FACTORS HAPPENING. WE KNOW WHO THE ULTIMATE
DECISION MAKERS WEREFUL.
>> YOU THINK HIS AFFAIR HAD
SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT?
>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN
RELATION TO THE DEAL?
>> IT MEANS THAT A DEAL WAS
STRUCK AND THAT DEAL WAS MOVING
FORWARD FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS AND
WEEKS.
WEEKS. NO ONE DISCUSSED ANYTHING
CHANGES.
CHANGES. >> BUT THE CITY COUNCIL DIDN’T
APPROVE THE ZONING ON IT.
>> AND THEY DID NOT NEED TO AND
THAT WAS CLEAR FROM THE
BEGINNING.
BEGINNING. A DEAL WAS STRUCK, GOVERNOR AND
I, WE HAPPENED TO BE THE TWO
MOST IMPORTANT OFFICE HOLDERS IN
TERMS OF THE POPULAR VOTES WE
RECEIVED.
RECEIVED. WE BOTH HAVE BEEN RECENTLY
RE-ELECTED.
RE-ELECTED. WE SAID LET’S GOT 25,000 JOBS.
LET’S GET ALL THE MONEY THAT CAN
HELP US TO DO THE THINGS TO
CREATE A FAIRER SOCIETY, DEAL
WAS STRUCK, DEAL WAS MOVING
FORWARD.
FORWARD. IN THE END, ANYONE AROUND THIS
TABLE IF YOU ARE HAVING A
PROBLEM WITH THE DEAL YOU
ANNOUNCED PUBLICLY YOU WOULD
HAVE PICKED UP THE PHONE AND WE
WOULD HAVE WORKED THROUGH THE
PROBLEMS.
PROBLEMS. >> THE REASON THE VOTE WAS NOT
GOING TO BE FOR 18 MONTHS.
>> THAT’S NOT THE TRUTH AND IT
WAS WELL KNOWN THAT THAT VOTE
WAS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> YOU FLOATED SOMETHING OUT
THAT WE’VE GOT TO PIN YOU DOWN
ON.
ON. YOU BELIEVE HIS AFFAIR --
>> NO, THERE WAS A LOT OF CROSS
PRESSURES, A LOT OF THINGS GOING
ON.
ON. >> LIKE WHAT?
>> YOU’RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT
YOURSELF.
YOURSELF. >> I THINK HAVE I FIGURED IT
OUT.
OUT. >> THE FACTS ARE, A DECISION WAS
MADE VERY ARBITRARILY.
WE HAD AN AGREEMENT, THE
AGREEMENT WAS MOVING FORWARD AND
SUDDENLY IT WASN’T.
THAT’S ALL I’M SAYING AND IN THE
END IT COMES DOWN TO WE HAVE TO
HAVE A COMMITMENT TO TRYING TO
EMPOWER WORKING PEOPLE.
WE WERE TRYING TO DO THAT WITH A
LOT OF JOBS AND I’M A
PROGRESSIVE, AND THEY WANT
QUALITY JOBS AND THIS TO ME --
IF THIS DISCUSSION HAD PLAYED
OUT FURTHER YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN
THE POPULAR SUPPORT GROW.
THERE WAS MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR
THIS FROM DAY ONE.
BY THE WAY, THERE WAS A SKEW IN
THAT SUPPORT.
THAT SUPPORT. THERE WAS MORE SUPPORT FOR
WORKING CLASS PEOPLE THAN THERE
WAS FOR PEOPLE THAT HAD TO HAVE
MORE MONEY.
MORE MONEY. THERE WAS MORE SUPPORT FROM
PEOPLE OF COLOR LOOKING FOR
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR FAMILIES
SO THERE’S NO QUESTION IN MY
MIND, OUR JOB IS TO CREATE SOBS
AND GOOD PAYING JOBS.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WAS A BIG
LOSS FOR NEW YORK CITY?
>> UNQUESTIONABLY BUT NOT A
DECISION MADE BY NEW YORK CITY
OR NEW YORK STATE IN THE END.
WE’VE SEEN ARBITRARY DECISION
MAKING IN OUR DAY.
THIS WAS EXTRAORDINARY.
>> SO YOUR FELLOW LAWMAKERS
CELEBRATING THIS ARE WRONG?
>> OF COURSE THEY’RE WRONG.
>> I WANT TO GET TO ONE MORE
THING.
THING. I WANT TO NAIL DOWN ONE MORE
TIME, YOU BELIEVE THAT PART OF
THE REASON PERHAPS THIS DEAL
UNRAVELLED IS BECAUSE OF WHAT
WAS HAPPENING SBRNLLY AT AM VON
WITH THE CEO.
>> THERE WAS A LOT OF TURMOIL.
>> THE TURMOIL WAS AN AFFAIR.
>> OVER MANY THINGS.
>> YOU CLEARLY ARE SUGGESTING
THAT.
THAT. >> I’VE JUST SAID WHAT I’VE
SAID.
SAID. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
RESILIENCY PLAN FOR LOWER
MANHATTAN.
MANHATTAN. WE ALL SAW, WE ALL LIVED THROUGH
TWAPD IN 2012 WITH HURRICANE
SANDY.
SANDY. WHAT’S THE IDEA HERE?
HOW DO YOU PUT IT INTO PLACE AND
WHAT DO YOU HOPE IT WILL
PREVENT?
PREVENT? >> THE IDEA IS THAT WE HAVE TO
DEAL WITH THE THREAT OF GLOBAL
WARMING.
WARMING. THAT’S NO CLIE GNAT DENIERS
HARDLY LEFT IN NEW YORK CITY.
SANDY, 44 LIVES LOST,
$19 BILLION IN PROPERTY DAMAGE.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR
HOME.
HOME. PEOPLE GET IT NOW AND WE’VE GOT
TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT PROTECTING
LOWER MANHATTAN.
LOWER MANHATTAN. 75% OF OUR SUBWAY LINES GO
THROUGH THERE.
THROUGH THERE. THERE OOESOMANY THINGS, THE
CENTER OF GLOBAL FINANCE.
THERE’S NO NATIONAL POLICY RIGHT
NOW, WILLIE, THERE’S NO NATIONAL
POLICY TO TRULY FIGHT GLOBAL
WARMING BUT THERE’S NO NATIONAL
RESILIENCY POLICY.
RESILIENCY POLICY. I WAS DOWN IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
MIAMI IS THREATENED.
NEW YORK CITY IS THREATENED.
NEW ORLEANS WE HARDLY HAVE TO
SAY.
SAY. >> WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN
DOWNTOWN?
DOWNTOWN? >> IT MEANS A $10 BILLION
INITIATIVE TO LITERALLY EXTEND
THE LAND OF LOWER MANHATTAN OUT
INTO THE EAST RIVER AND BUILD
UP.
UP. >> WE’VE GOT A GRAPHIC HERE.
>> THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO
BE EXTENDED OUT.
BUILD MORE LAND, PUT IT HIGHER
AND PROTECT THE FINANCIAL
DISTRICT AND LOWER MANHATTAN
WHERE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
JOBS AND RESIDENCES ARE.
THIS ISN’T THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT SAYING THIS IS
PROBABLY THE MOST SENSITIVE
IMPORTANT LOCATIONS AS THE
ENTIRE NATION AND WE’RE GOING TO
HELP YOU.
HELP YOU. THERE’S NOT EVEN A HINT OF A
NATIONAL RESILIENCY PLAN.
WE HAVE TO DO IT OURSELVES.
>> AND THE MONEY COMES FROM
WHERE?
WHERE? >> WE’RE GOING TO START DOWN THE
ROAD AND DO THE PLANNING WITH
OUR OWN MONEY AS NEW YORK CITY
BUT WE CAN’T AFFORD $10 BILLION.
I HOPE THE NEXT ELECTION LEADS
TO A LEADER WHO’S READY TO HAVE
A NATIONAL RESILIENCY POLICY FOR
TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
>> THANK YOU FOR LEADING ME TO
MY QUESTION.
MY QUESTION. ARE YOU STILL CONSIDERING
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?
>> I HAVE NOT RULED IT OUT AND
I’LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME
POINT THAT I MADE IF MONEY IS
BEING CONCENTRATED ON 1% AND
WORKING PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING
THEIR FAIR SHARE, WE HAVE TO SAY
OUT LOUD THERE’S PLENTY OF MONEY
AND WE NEED POLICIES THAT ARE
GOING TO CHANGE THAT.
I TALKED TO A VARIETY OF
AUDIENCES AND PEOPLE RESPOND TO
THIS POINT.
THIS POINT. THEY WANT DEMOCRATS TO STOP
BEING HALFWAY ON THIS POINT.
THEY WANT DEMOCRATS TO BE HONEST
THAT FEDERAL POLICIES HAVE MADE
THE 1% RICHER THAN BEFORE AND
WE’VE GOT TO REVERSE THEM.
>> WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE
POSSIBILITY THAT HE’S RUNNING
FOR PEOPLE.
FOR PEOPLE. >> YOU ARE A DEEP AND INSIGHTFUL
MAN.
MAN. >> THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> HOW YESTERDAY’S VOTE ON THE
PRESIDENT’S BORDER WALL
DECLARATION IS RAISING BIG
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BALANCE OF
POWER IN WASHINGTON.
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