QUESTIONS UNANSWERED.
AND INACCURACY HE HAD FIRED FOR
12 MINUTES OUTSIDE OF THE
SCHOOL, IT APPEARS IT WAS CLOSER
TO SIX.
JOINING US NOW, TIME HOMELAND
TOM HOMAN, HE IS ALSO FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE, TOM,
BUT THE OPTIMAL QUESTION HERE IS
THIS.
AT 12:16, CALL COMES IN THAT
THERE ARE 8-9 STUDENTS THAT ARE
ALIVE.
WE KNOW ONE MINUTE PRIOR TO THAT
THE THREE SHIELDS HAD ARRIVED,
VORTAC HAD ARRIVED, BUT THAT
DOOR WAS NOT BREACHED UNTIL
12:50:00 P.M.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> Tom: LETS GO TO BACK
BEGINNING.
IN A COUPLE MINUTES OFFICERS
WENT INTO THAT SCHOOL AND
ENGAGED.
THEY TOOK WHAT THEY BELIEVED TO
BE AN ACTIVE, MOBILE ACTIVE
SHOOTER, AND CONTAINED HIM.
UNTIL HIS OFFICERS GOT SHOT,
THEY DIDN’T DIDN’T RETREAT, THEY
TOOK COVER AND THAT IS THE FIRST
THING YOU DO IN AN ACTIVE
SHOOTER.
THE ENTIRE SCHOOL HAVING THEM
CONTAINED IN ONE ROOM.
FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE SCHOOL,
THE SHOOTER DOESN’T HAVE ACCESS.
OFFICERS MAINTAINED HIM AND KEPT
THEM IN CONTAINMENT WHICH I
THINK WAS A GOOD THING, RIGHT?
AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER.
I DON’T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING
DIRECTOR McGRAW SAID.
REMEMBER.
EVEN WHEN A TACTICAL TEAM MADE
AN ENTRANCE THESE ARE GUYS
TRAINING, EXTENSIVE TRAINING
COMES OF THE MOST EXTENSIVE
TRAINING LAW LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN
HAVE.
EVEN WHEN THEY GO ON THE DOOR
THEY HAVE TO FIND INTO THE
SHOOTER.
WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN, WHEREAS
THE SHOOTER?
WHEN THEY GO INTO THE DOOR THEY
HAVE TO FIND THE SHOOTER BEFORE
THEY CAN.
WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING FOR THE
SURE WHAT HAPPENED?
THEY GET SHOT.
SO EVEN PEOPLE WITH THE MOST
ADVANCED TECHNICAL EQUIPMENT,
THE MOST TACTICAL TRAINING,
THESE OFFICERS SELECT TO LOCATE
THE SHOOTER WITHIN THAT ROOM AND
TAKE HIM OUT WHILE THEY ARE
TAKING ROUNDS.
THAT WAS A TACTICAL UNIT
WELL-TRAINED.
SO PEOPLE QUESTION WHY THE
POLICE DIDN’T ACT ON THEIR DOOR
EARLIER, THEY DON’T HAVE ANY OF
THAT EQUIPMENT, AND ANY OF THAT
TRAINING.
I AM NOT THE QUARTERBACK, I’M
SAYING THERE ARE A LOT OF COPS
HERE THAT DID A LOT OF GREAT
THINGS AND OVERALL SAVED A LOT
OF LIVES.
THERE WILL BE LESSONS LEARNED.
THE INVESTIGATION ISN’T OVER
WITH YET.
HAVING A TIMELINE IS A GOOD
THING TO HAVE.
THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE
WHAT WERE YOU DOING AT THIS
TIME?
DID YOU HAVE ANY VISIBILITY ON
THE BAD GUY AT THAT TIME?
THERE IS A LOT MORE QUESTIONS
THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
IS TROUBLING TO ME.
I THINK THERE WOULD BE LESSONS
LEARNED IN SOME MISTAKES THAT
WERE MADE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THE
INVESTIGATION IS OLDER WE ARE
JUMPING THE GUN.
SO MANY REPORTERS, THE WAY THEY
ARE FIRING QUESTIONS AT McGRAW
WAS UNFAIR.
I WILL SAY THIS.
MY HEART BLEEDS FOR THE PARENTS.
MY HEART BLEEDS FOR THE
FAMILIES.
I CAN’T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THEY
ARE GOING THROUGH AND THEY NEED
TO BE FRONT AND CENTER ON THIS.
LESSER MEMBER THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, GUNMEN
THAT WERE INJURED, I’VE BEEN
INVOLVED IN SHOOTINGS AND SEEN A
LOT OF TRAGEDY IN MY CAREER TOO.
THESE OFFICERS WILL NEVER BE THE
GAME.
I GUARANTEE MOST OF THESE
OFFICERS, AND SOME WILL NEED TO
GET SOME HELP.
SO I GUARANTEE, EVER ONE OF
THESE OPTIONS ARE QUESTIONING
THEMSELVES EVERY MINUTE EVERY
DAY NOT SLEEPING AND REMEMBERING
THE CARNAGE THEY CAN NEVER
FORGET.
THESE ARE VICTIMS TOO.
UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION IS
COMPLETELY OVER UNTIL WE CAN
COME THE OFFICERS AREN’T THE BAD
GUYS, THE SHOOTER IS THE BAD
GUY.
>> Kaleigh: ABSOLUTE PERRY ONE
OF THE OFFICERS WHO RESPONDED
LET’S NOT FORGET HE CALLED LOST
HIS OWN CHILD AS HE WAS
RESPONDING TO THE SCENE.
TOM, YOU UNDERSCORE T TELL MY
KEY POINT THAT IS TO BE AN
INVESTIGATION PRAYED A LOT OF
FACTS HAVE CHANGED.
WE ARE 72 HOURS INTO THIS.
WE THOUGHT THERE WAS AN
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT
OFFICER OUTSIDE, TURNED OUT NOT
TO BE TRUE.
EFFORTS WE WERE TOLD THAT VORTAC
AGENT STORMED ALONE, WE NOW KNOW
THAT’S NOT TRUE PERRY WE WERE
TOLD FOR MY 12 MINUTES THERE WAS
A SHOOTER FIRING OUTSIDE.
IN FACT WAS MORE LIKE 6.
MY POINT IS INFORMATION IS
CHANGING THEIR 72 HOURS INTO
THIS.
TOM, THE KEY QUESTION IS AS IS
911 CALLS ARE FUNNELING AND FOR
TEACHERS FROM STUDENTS AT
12:16 P.M. WHEN THERE WAS SOON
TO LIVE, HOW QUICKLY WITH THAT
911 INFORMATION BE GETTING TO
THE RESPONDING COMMANDER, WHO
THOUGHT, AND THE WORDS OF THE
DIRECTOR, THAT IN FACT THERE
WERE NO CHILDREN IN THERE TO BE
HARMED?
HOW QUICKLY WITHOUT INFORMATION
BE GETTING TO HIM?
>> THAT’S WHAT WE DON’T KNOW.
THAT’S THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS
TO BE ANSWERED.
DID THE COMMANDER GET UP-TO-DATE
INFORMATION MINUTE-BY-MINUTE
WHAT’S GOING ON?
THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED IN
RESPONSE, HIS DECISION, DO WE
BREACH?
A TACTICAL BREACH OR NOT?
I THINK THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION
THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED.
WAS HE GETTING UPDATED RESPONSES
IMMEDIATELY ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING
ON IN THE CLASSROOM?
THAT WE DON’T HAVE A LOT OF
ANSWERS.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN
THE FUTURE AND WHAT HE WAS BUT
THAT’S THE KEY.
I WAS THINKING DURING THE
CONFERENCE THAT WAS THE KEY FOR
THE WHOLE THING.
>> Kaleigh: ANOTHER QUESTION,
TOM, THE DISTRICT, THE SCHOOL IN
PARTICULAR, THAT A TEACHER
PROPPED OPEN A DOOR TO A SCHOOL.
WE KNOW IT MOST SCHOOLS THE
DOORS REMAINED LOCKED.
WHEN THIS TEACHER SAW THE CRASH,
PERHAPS SHE PANICKED, HE OR SHE,
BUT RAN BACK TO THAT DOOR AND
THAT DOOR REMAINED OPEN.
NOT TO MENTION WHERE WAS THE
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT
OFFICER?
>> Tom: THAT ONE MISTAKE, I’M
SURE SHE WILL LIVE WITH THE REST
OF HER LIFE.
I’M SURE SHE NEVER THOUGHT I
WOULD HAVE BEEN BUT YOU ARE
RIGHT.
SOMETHING THAT SIMPLE COULD HAVE
PREVENTED A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM
BEING KILLED.
I DON’T WANT TO TO SAY ABOUT
THAT.
>> Kaleigh: WE ONLY HAVE A
MINUTE OR SO WHEN I REALLY WANT
TO GET TO THIS BECAUSE THIS WAS
A KEY POINT.
THE DIGITAL FOOTPRINT OF THIS
INDIVIDUAL PERRY WE KNOW 60% OF
SHOOTERS COMMUNICATE THEIR
INTENT BEFOREHAND.
IN MANY WAYS HE WAS NO
EXCEPTION.
THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE GROUP
CHATS WE LEARNED OF WITH FOUR
INDIVIDUALS AND ONE CASE, AND
ONE CASE MANY DAYS BEFORE, THERE
WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS
INDIVIDUAL BEING A SCHOOL
SHOOTER.
I DON’T KNOW IF IT WAS IN JEST
OR SERIOUS BUT THE BOTTOM LINE
IS ONE OF THOSE THREE PEOPLE IN
THAT TRACT, IF THEY HAD TOLD
AUTHORITIES, SOME THEY COULD’VE
BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO MARK
DIFFERENT HERE.
>> Tom: THE INVESTIGATION ON
SOCIAL MEDIA, THESE ARE
MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR COMPANIES.
FRONT PAGE STORIES ABOUT THE
ELECTIONS OVER THE ELSE GOING ON
RIGHT NOW, THE SOCIAL MEDIA
COMPANIES NEED TO STEP UP THEIR
GAME.
MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR COMPANIES
NEED TO COME UP WITH A SYSTEM.
WITH PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA
CLEARLY ARE A THREAT TO THE
COMMUNITY NEED THE ATTENTION OF
THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY.
WE ARE THE RICHEST NATION ON
EARTH.
THERE IS NO REASON THIS COUNTRY
CAN’T GET TO THAT FIRST.
WITH COMPANIES LIKE FACEBOOK AND