So that's the world I'm living in.
Tell me your thinking behind videotaping her.
When you try to explain things to people,
and they're like this doesn't make a lot of sense--
so I'm gonna do that, so that I can go here's an example.
Here's what I'm talking about when I say--
And so that's not the first time
she's spoken to you like that.
That's not the first time.
Although I don't agree with the means
that John used in videotaping Molly,
I understand why he did that.
Up until this point, we have not seen
this raw, emotional, and pretty mean side of Molly.
Like one of the phrases that she's used--
quote-- when you touch me, it makes my skin crawl.
She said that to you?
Yeah, and she said it again in Florida.
But you see where that's a mixed signal when we were in the club
10 minutes before that, and you were grinding on me,
and you were OK touching me.
That's a mixed message.
And that's what it's been the whole time.
And so I don't want to play this game anymore.
The way in which Molly is treating him--
if Molly has been saying pretty terrible things to John
since the beginning, I am surprised that Molly
and John have made it this far.
Have a seat.
One of the mistakes that I believe Molly is making
in her marriage is not opening up about what
really is going on with her.
OK, so I've been able to talk to both of you,
and do you both feel like you have truly given it your all?
Yeah, absolutely.
I really don't feel like there's anything I could
or would have done differently.
- Really, nothing you regret? - Not really--
John, can you pull up the video?
I don't know if you've seen this.
Have you seen this?
When John's showing me the video,
I feel very betrayed that he's even taken it to this level
where he's just willing to do whatever to try and tear
me down and make me hurt.
He's really shown his true colors,
and it's just gone such a bad direction that there
is really no going back.
What is this supposed to show me?
So Molly, your language that you used with him was vile.
Yeah, and that's the first time
I've used that language ever.
I don't think that you've been honest about that,
and I don't know if it's because you're trying to protect
yourself at this point.
Yeah, I'm literally about to lose my [bleep],, so if we could
just please de-escalate it.
What is it about seeing the video that is most upsetting?
For one, that he's using that to try and really just hurt me.
Because, I mean, he could just tell what happened.
He doesn't need to be using it for--
Yeah, you know what?
He could tell what happened.
Except, every time I've asked you something,
you sugarcoat events and talk about things as if they
didn't happen in that way.
I asked you about the fight in Florida.
It was nothing like that--
nothing like that.
So I understand you don't like my honesty.
But I don't like your lies.
When Jessica said that she didn't like Molly's lies,
it for me was just a validation, because I
know that I was patient.
And I know that I tried everything I could
to make her feel comfortable.
And obviously the experts aren't there,
and they don't see everything.
And they don't get filled in on all of the information.
So it's not my word versus hers.
I have evidence, and this is now your word versus yourself.
If you were a couple that was seeing me in couples
counseling, this would be a situation where
I would say to both of you--
why are you here?
Why are you allowing someone to speak
to you this way in your home?
You've talked about being friends.
And you talked about a friendship.
There is no friend that talks to a friend like that.
I want to help them to be able to work through this,
but someone saying to you that you
are disgusting multiple times--
it is unacceptable and may have been the nail in the coffin
in their marriage.
And my advice to them at this point
is to stop faking it for the cameras.
That's the only hope that they have.