So On the Run now has this crazy looking ink gel concentrate right here which they're calling the
ball pen fluid. it's essentially a super thick paste that is supposed to be used in combination
with an ink or base agent to make that ink unbuffable. it says right on the bottle here
'the rich ink gel concentrate can be used five to twenty percent in relation to
the solvent. give buffers a hard time!' and today we're going to be doing a few different things
with this to see if this otr 988 ball pen fluid actually does increase colour saturation of tags
and of course their resistance to buffing. we will be doing a full buff test with each formula
we conjure up today. and yes i did just say each formula because we are going to be experimenting
in a couple different ways with this. firstly we're going to be using some grog buff proof ink,
which if you haven't seen the video on the buff proof ink it's in the corner. but it could be a
little more buff proof. so we'll be testing that formula out as is and then, to make it scientific,
we'll be adding the ball pen fluid to the grog buff-proof ink to see if the colour saturation
looks any different and if the buffability is any different at all. and secondly,
i know that the idea with this ball pen fluid is to use it sparingly,
but i cannot resist the urge to use this in combination with an already very thick paint
formula to see if it makes a nice metal head tag totally unbuffable. when i see thick gels
like this, metal heads are exactly what comes to mind for me. so after our buff test with the grog
buff proof ink times ink gel concentrate we're going to try something a little bit different
with the Krink k66 paint formula and the ink gel concentrate by otr as well. so with that
being said right now i'm going to show you the entire diy process that we're going to go through
to make these sort of custom formulae and then we'll get to our tagging test and our buff test.
okay just to be clear this is the type of thing that you can experiment with in many different
ways. if there's anyone out there telling you that there's only one proper way to use this
or something like that just know that they are stupid as hell, okay? so to start we have the
superflow mop here filled with the grog buff proof ink. this is the same super fill mop we used in
the grog buff proof ink video. i just never used this mop to be honest. if you want to know more
about the sort of unique nibs on these superflow mops, you can check the video in the corner
in the description. but we are going to be using this mop filled just with the buff proof ink first
to see how just the formula, as is, reacts to a buff and then we'll beef it up with the
ball pen fluid. we'll do the buffs side by side so you can directly see the difference.
just to be clear you can always use this ink gel concentrate just with some isopropyl alcohol and
make a nice ink formula that way. that's perfectly valid and it'll work for you very nicely.
one of these bottles is a hundred ml and it only costs you 10 US dollars so if you use it properly
aka pretty sparingly this stuff will last you a long long time. if you're going to make formulae
that way but like i said there is an endless amount of experimentation you can do with this
otr ball pen fluid and that is why today we are experimenting not just by making a normal formula
but by making a couple different formulae so that we can really see if it does make a difference
for permanence and so that all of you out there can see if here we're making a top-notch formula
that might be a good one for everyone to know and use or if we're doing something completely
disastrous here. so i'm not going to talk too much about the grog buff proof ink specifically.
i just want to show you that the tags are there and it's pure buff proof ink there
because we do have a whole video on the subject of the buff proof ink that you can check out.
okay, hi guys. it's a little hard to see on screen so i'm gonna put a mark on the mop here.
but that is showing exactly how full this mop is. it's about half full. so what we're going
to do is we're going to add 20%, another fifth, to that to make it 1/6th in total ball pen fluid
here. now these ball pen fluid containers you just have to stick a nail in there, it's it's
pretty easy to get a nail in there to create the opening. once you do that remove the mop nib.
when we're done we want it to be filled about there, a rough estimation of what a fifth is.
one thing i do want to emphasize is this stuff is actually hard to squeeze. you can tell it's a
thick liquid when you are squeezing it there. like look at how dense that is. that's basically black!
now when you are mixing an ink concentrate like this you really do want to have a
mixing ball in your mop. but since i don't really have an extra one and i
don't want to dig one out of another mop we're gonna do it the real old-school
way and just use a bit of hardware. normally you'd want to use like a bolt or a nut.
you shouldn't really use nails like this because they can sort of get caught up in
the bottom of the nib and mess with the flow, but i'm really not about to care about that right now.
just a little Pro Tip here with Sciz! for you guys: we haven't done one of those in ages.
but the more of this concentrate you put in your ink or in anything really the longer it's going
to take to dry. just keep that in mind. you can hear the nails working there mixing everything
up for us. i've shaken this for about five minutes actually. i just want to make sure it's nice and
mixed. but right now we're going to do a couple tags a to see if we can see any difference in the
colour saturation here. are we getting a more dark mixture? are we getting a more consistent
mixture with less of that two-tone effect? but also to set up our buff test. this here is an
unfinished surface that's gonna be one where we just look at the differences between the two
buffs and see which does better but we also have the *finished smooth surface that's traditionally
very very hard for these inks to settle onto. there's nothing for the inks to grab onto and
stain. it's a lot easier to buff them on here. so if this beefed up bpi formula can stick on here
it's doing something right, let me tell you. but let's get to these tags, see what happens!
okay there's a couple ways you can see the difference here with the otr ball pen fluid
added. it's subtle, but they are there. i'm not going to try and convince you that there's much
colour difference. i don't really see it. but you could mistake it for being a little bit different
in colour. but that's because one of the other things we're going to talk about right now...
which is the thickness of the formula. it has gotten a lot thicker and i think that's
responsible for it looking a little bit darker. more evidence of this is you can see with like the
kyoi tag that just had the buff proof ink, you're getting the bleeding away from the lines
there even on the drips. they're bleeding outwards giving you that very jagged looking edge of the
drip whereas when you introduce the ball pen fluid here you're seeing that these drips are nice and
smooth around the edges. there's no bleeding to the sides, anything like that. furthermore even
on the letters you're getting that nice almost three-dimensional flow towards the bottom of
the letters, giving it a nice lip there. i'll give you a close-up to show you what i'm talking about.
so really the difference that you're seeing here is the thickness of the formula. it's giving a
very beautiful solid look when you're writing with it and it's really assisting the drips I
think. i definitely prefer those more than like sort of a runny all over the place type
thing. but those are really the main differences you're seeing. so what we're gonna do now is
we're going to give specifically the two Bank tags time to dry as well as the Bust and the kyoi tag.
and then we'll see what happens in that buff test. okay so while these dry so that we can do
a proper buff test on them i do want to show you something that i've never seen done before with
this kind of concentrated ball pen fluid because hey if it turns out then this could be an awesome
graffiti hack for all of you guys to use as well! but when i saw this concentrated ball pen fluid
it immediately reminded me of the thicker sort of three-dimensional paint formulae, such as like the
grog ruff stuff paint that comes in the grog metal heads or even just the Krink paint formula that
comes in the Krink K60 and the Krink K66 here. so what i actually want to try here just to see
what happens is we're going to throw some ball pen fluid into the Krink k66. this is a k66 that
hasn't broken on me yet, go figure. and we're just going to lay a few tags down and see if
it can withstand a buff on a smooth surface with a more three-dimensional paint / ink concentrate
formula. those three dimensional formulae are much harder to buff. so let's see what this can do!
okay guys i'm not gonna lie, i don't really know how much of the otr 988 ball pen fluid i put
in this Krink K66 but it was a lot! if i had to guess i'd say it's like a 60 40 split here.
part of the reason i did that was just because i wasn't seeing the ink in there. but when you
see this those who have a bit of experience using specifically the Krink red will know that this is
a lot darker than the Krink red and basically it just mixed in perfectly with the Krink paint
formula. so we have something here that is a concentrate but probably just because it's the
same base as the Krink paint formula it mixed in perfectly. you're left with a bit of a darker red,
but it actually made it a perfect consistency to use in the Krink K66, a little bit more so
than the Krink paint itself dare i say it. just to prove to you that the ink is
actually in there because some people might not be able to see the difference in the red
colour on camera, when i was trying to get the formula right i used a piece of paper just to test
it out and you can see the front is that nice juicy thick paint but if you turn it over and
look at the back there is that seeping effect that an ink on a paper usually has. you know,
it bleeds right through that paper and soaks up the ink. so we got these beautiful beautiful
thick three-dimensional drippy tags here that are hopefully going to be a lot more powerful
than they would be if they didn't have that ink gel concentrate ball pen fluid in it by otr.
and because of how three-dimensional this is it's gonna take a little while to dry. but the
tags here done with the beefed up grog buff proof ink plus the ball pen fluid here are dry now. it's
been about a couple hours. so obviously the longer you let things dry the harder they are to remove,
but most of the effect is captured here. and we're gonna see in that buff test what the
effect actually is. but guys it is time for this buff test we're gonna start on the smooth surface
because that's less likely to have tags stick around on it. and we're just gonna start with the
all-purpose graffiti remover. it's the tremclad one. it's the one that i generally find works on
just about everything. but first let's see what just the buff proof ink does for our benchmark.
so we're not seeing any ghosts here and as you can see we're cleaning that up pretty good. i'm not
gonna waste my time and get it nice and pristine right now. but now on just a smooth glossy surface
let's see if the buff proof ink plus that ink gel concentrate has any chance. i don't find with this
particular graffiti remover you need to let it sit very much. some graffiti removers you do
want it to sit and grab a hold of it. i think this one recommends that you do that as well.
i've never found it to be necessary. and that is roughly the same result that we're
seeing here... actually maybe not. we might be getting a ghost here! let's clean this up.
okay okay. i know i'm not the only one seeing a ghost there.
oh guys look at this. now i know it's not super clear but there is a definite ghost
here. i'm really hoping you can see that on camera. okay so just to summarize that result
a little bit with just the buff proof ink on the glossy surface, no ghosting whatsoever,
but there actually is a bit of a ghost there with that Bust tag that has the gel concentrate in
it. and for a glossy finished surface that is actually really really impressive on its own.
and now just on a nice unfinished surface let's see the difference here again. the tag on the
left has the gel concentrate in it. we'll start off with just the one that just has the bpi.
i'm not going to buff the whole tag because you know we're on a schedule here.
so i won't lie, you can almost see a ghost there on the b of that Bank tag with just the buff
proof ink. but the Bust tag that has that gel concentrate by otr in it on the glossy surface
actually has a much more clear ghost than the Bank tag, which is just the buff proof ink on
the unfinished surface. so that should be saying something... maybe about the
buff proof ink maybe about this otr 988. but anyway let's get to the real test here now.
well you can see that colour difference but that might be the only thing we're
seeing here. i don't know. it's unclear. it's unclear. we need to make it clearer!
well you know what? there is a bit of a ghost there but i'm a little perplexed because it's
whiter than what's surrounding it. so i think that's just because i haven't cleaned this up very
much. so if we did clean it up i think there'd be a bit of a ghost left of the Bank tag that
has that ink gel concentrate or ball pen fluid by on the run in it. so what i would sum this
up as is frankly just sort of a weak ghost. and that almost makes me think that they're being a
little bit conservative with the amount you should be putting in there. i'd be interested in upping
the dose of that ball pen fluid. i'm just not convinced that that 5 to 20 percent for the ratio
of the ball pen fluid to the solvent is exactly what most graffiti writers are looking for. i
don't know. something to play around with. if you guys have tried this at all in more than a 20%
ratio, let everyone know in the comments how that worked out. and just the more information
we can share about this the better because the thing with this diy stuff is it's all about
experimentation. speaking of which i'm excited to see what this Krink formula has to offer for us.
okay so the tags done with the k66 formula and the ball pen fluid are
pretty much like dry to the touch. now these thick thick ones you know they can take like
hours to dry of course but dry to the touch. let's just see what this does.
you know what i am seeing a bit of a ghost. now there is a bit of a ghost of this Short tag here.
it's certainly not magnificent by any means. i don't even know if you can see it on camera. i'll
try and give you a look at it. but again just what this tells me is that possibly giving it
a bit more time to just settle into the surface would make that ghost of the tag more prominent.
one thing i do know for sure though is just the Krink k66 paint formula that comes in the k66,
that alone would not have left anything like this. but with that being said i do want to talk to you
guys about the uses for this ball pen fluid by otr BESIDES just the permanence aspects of it,
because yes permanence is important in terms of buffability, depending on what kind of writer you
are, but this has some other uses i think need to be emphasized a little bit. so let me talk
to you about that. okay so i just wanted to add a quick word at the end here to say we already sort
of knew that this at least has potential of being a hugely helpful additive in terms of permanence
but i do want to remind everyone that this can be a helpful concentrate if you're just looking
to change the composition of a formula for other reasons as well! we did see that it thickened both
the formulae that we made today. to me it made them look both a lot nicer and it made them feel
a lot nicer to work with as well. and this is one of the only graffiti products on the market today
i would say that is designed specifically for experimentation. On the Run has actually done
a great job by recognizing that the diy part of graffiti is still very much alive and it's worth
exploring. so it might actually be worth picking one of these up. ten dollars for 100 ml isn't
bad when it comes to this stuff. it lasts a long long time. and hey, let everyone else know and me
in the comments some of the crazy ideas i know some of you guys must have about how to use this
on the run ball pen fluid! there's got to be some great ways out there that you guys
are thinking about. if you're looking to know more about some permanent permanent inks, the
inkredible ink by On the Run also is a formidable ink by itself, but this ball pen fluid by
on the run could be what turns the inkredible ink into the weapon of the century! so you can
check out a full tagging test and buff test of the inKredible ink by otr on screen right now!
if you want to know more about that, i hope i'll see you over there in a bit. until then, peace.