THIS IS WELCOME NEWS AS FAR AS
I'M CONCERNED.
>> Martha: ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE
YOU SIR, THANKS FOR BEING HERE
TONIGHT.
MY NEXT GUEST IS THE
AFOREMENTIONED PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
FIRST CAMPAIGN MANAGER AND I'M
REPORTEDLY BACK IN THE POLITICAL
GAME JOINING VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE.
CORY LEWANDOWSKI JOINS ME KNOW.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, GOOD TO HAVE
YOU HERE TONIGHT.
THIS WAS ALSO IN
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" PIECE.
EVEN AS HE PLACES HIS PUBLIC
ROMANCE WITH PRAISE FOR THE
PRESIDENT, MIKE PENCE WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT, VICE PRESIDENT
PENCE AND A SIMPLE ONE OF STAFF
ARE UNSETTLING A GROUP OF
MR. TRUMP'S FIERCE LOYALIST WHO
FEAR THEY ARE FORGING A SEPARATE
POWER BASE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING?
>> LOOK, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY
WILL EVER ACCUSE ME OF BEING
ANYTHING OTHER THAN A
DONALD TRUMP LOYALIST.
I WAS THE CAMPAIGN MANAGER, I
WAS THERE WHEN WE TURNED THE
LIGHTS ON AND I'M HONORED TO BE
JOINING THE VICE PRESIDENTS PACK
SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO RAISE
MONEY WITH THE EXPLICIT GOAL OF
SUPPORTING CANDIDATES WHO ARE
SUPPORTING THE TRUMP-PENCE
AGENDA THROUGH HARD MONEY
CONTRIBUTIONS AND MAKING SURE
THAT WE ARE RETAINING OUR
MAJORITY IN THE U.S. HOUSE.
THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THE PENCE
PACT THAT I AM NOW PART OF AND
THAT IS COMPLETELY WITH THE
BLESSING OF THE UNITED STATES.
>> Martha: IN TERMS OF ALL
THESE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE
RELEASED TODAY, THOUSANDS OF
PAGES FROM DONALD TRUMP JR.'S
TRANSCRIPT, THIS IS WHAT HE E
TRANSCRIPT, THIS IS WHAT HE S
TRANSCRIPT, THIS IS WHAT HE I
TRANSCRIPT, THIS IS WHAT HE D
ABOUT IT.
FOR OVER FIVE HOURS I ANSWERED
EVERY QUESTION ASKED AND WAS
CANDID AND FORTHRIGHT WITH THE
COMMITTEE.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHERE THIS
WHOLE THING IS GOING?
>> I THINK DON JR. IS EXACTLY
RIGHT.
I'VE BEEN VERY PUBLIC.
I'VE HAD THE UNFORTUNATE
PRIVILEGE OF SITTING BEFORE THE
HOUSE AND THE SENATE COMMITTEES
TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY.
I DID IT VOLUNTARILY.
YOU SIT THERE AS LONG AS THEY
NEED YOU TO TO MAKE SURE THAT
YOU'VE ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION
TO PROVE ONCE AGAIN THERE WAS NO
COLLUSION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR
FORM AND THAT'S WHAT DON JR. DID
SHOWS.
HE SAT FOR FIVE HOURS AND
ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION THEY
ASKED AND THEN HE FINALLY GOT UP
AND LEFT AND NOW WE SEE THOSE
ANSWERS IN WRITING AND IT SHOWS
EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
THERE WAS NO COLLUSION BETWEEN
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND THE
OUTSIDE INFLUENCER.
>> Martha: WE WILL GET INTO
THIS MORE IN A MOMENT BUT I WANT
TO ASK YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BYR
SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BYD
SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BYY
GIULIANI WHO IS NOW REPRESENTING
THE PRESIDENT IN THIS MATTER.
HERE'S WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE
POSSIBILITY OF A PRESIDENTIAL
INDICTMENT.
HE SAID THEY CAN'T INDICT, AT
LEAST THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TO
US AFTER SOME BATTLING, THEY
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT TO US HE SAYS.
>> THIS GOES BACK TO -- I
BELIEVE IT'S A 1999 CLINTON ERA
MEMO, BILL CLINTON ERA MEMO THAT
WAS WRITTEN THAT SAID A SITTING
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
CANNOT BE INDICTED AND THAT WAS
SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
DISCUSSED NOW FOR ALMOST 20
YEARS AND THAT HAS BEEN THE
RULES AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND
THE MAYOR IS SAYING IS THE
MUELLER TEAM ABIDE BY THAT MEMO
AND UNDERSTANDS IT TO BE
ACCURATE AND THERE IS NO
INDICTMENT COMING FOR THE
PRESIDENT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO
COLLUSION, THERE WAS NO
COORDINATION.
THERE IS NOTHING TO INDICT HIM
FOR OTHER THAN PUTTING AMERICA
FIRST.
IF THAT'S A CRIME HE'S GOING TO
BE INDICTED.
>> Martha: HAS RUDY GIULIANI
GIVEN YOU THAT KIND OF ASSURANCE
GIVEN YOU THAT KIND OF ASSURANC
ASSURANCE?
SORT OF OFF-LINE ON ALL OF THIS
BECAUSE WHEN HE MAKES THE
STATEMENTS, THE REPORTS ARE THAT
HE'S GETTING AHEAD OF HIMSELF,
THAT HE SHOULDN'T BE SAYING
THERE'S NO INDICTMENT WHEN THE
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE ISSUE IS
STILL OUT THERE.
DO YOU THINK THAT HE IS SORT OF
ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE
PRESIDENT AND THE REST OF THE
TEAM WHEN HE COMES OUT AND SAYS
THERE WILL BE NO INDICTMENT?
>> I THINK THE MAYOR IS EXACTLY
ON THE PRESIDENT'S TEAM.
IT IS A DIFFERENT TACTIC, WHICH
IS A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE TACTIC
AS IT RELATES TO DEALING WITH
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION.
TOMORROW MARKS THE ONE-YEAR
ANNIVERSARY OF BOB MUELLER BEING
NAMED AS THE SPECIAL COUNSEL TO
INVESTIGATE THIS AND WHAT WE'VE
SEEN IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
WASTED, NO COLLUSION BY THE
PRESIDENT.
WE KNOW THAT NO COLLUSION BY THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND THE MAYOR HAS
NOW SAID IF BOB MUELLER WANTS TO
TALK TO THE PRESIDENT YOU DO IT
THROUGH A SERIES OF QUESTIONS IN
A VERY LIMITED FASHION.
THAT'S A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST
AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE
MUELLER TEAM HAS ANY INTEREST IN
DOING THAT.
>> Martha: LET'S PLAY THIS
SOUND BITE FROM THE INTERVIEW
THAT LAURA INGRAHAM DID WITH
RUDY GIULIANI AND GET YOUR QUICK
THOUGHTS FROM THAT BEFORE WE
HEAD TO THE BREAK.
>> WHAT IS YOUR OPTIMAL TIMELINE
FOR THIS TO WRAP UP?
>> TODAY.
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK THAT THEY HAVE THE FACTS
FROM WHICH THEY CAN WRITE THE
REPORT.
GOING TO WRITE A FAIR REPORT,
FINE.
GOING TO FIND WRITE AN UNFI
GOING TO FIND WRITE AN UNFR
GOING TO FIND WRITE AN UNFP
GOING TO FIND WRITE AN UNFR
GOING TO FIND WRITE AN UNF,
WRITE IT AND WE WILL COMBAT IT.
WE ARE READY TO RIP IT APART.
>> Martha: THE PRESIDENT'S
FORMER ATTORNEYS SAID THEY FELT
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO WRAP UP
VERY QUICKLY.
THEY ARE NO LONGER IN THE
PICTURE.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT
IS THEY ARE NOT GIVING THE
PRESIDENT SORT OF THE FULL
PICTURE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON
WITH THIS INVESTIGATION.
DO YOU THINK THAT RUDY GIULIANI
IS CORRECT, THAT THIS IS
WRAPPING UP, SHOULD WRAP UP AND
WILL WRAP UP QUICKLY?
>> I HOPE IT WRAPS UP VERY
QUICKLY BECAUSE THE GOAL HERE OF
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION IS TO
WRITE A REPORT TO CONGRESS TO
SHOW IF THERE WAS ANY COLLUSION
OR COOPERATION OR COORDINATION,
WHICH THERE WASN'T.
THAT REPORT IS GOING TO TAKE
SOME TIME.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IF ANY
POLITICALIZATION OF THIS ANY
FURTHER.
WE WE THE MUELLER TEAM TO WRITE
THERE PURPORTS TO CONGRESS OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN SEE VERY
CLEARLY THAT THE FROM CAMPAIGN,
OF WHICH I WAS A PART OF FOR A
LONG PERIOD OF TIME, NEVER
COORDINATED WITH ANY RUSSIANS,
THERE WEREN'T ANY RUSSIANS
THERE, THERE WAS NO COLLUSION
AND THAT'S WHAT THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE DESERVE TO SEE SO I THINK