UNTIL 2024 TO FULFILL THE 2%
COMMITMENT.
BACK TO YOU IN NEW YORK.
LINCOLN BLOOMFIELD SERVED AS
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR UNDER
PRESIDENT'S REAGAN, BUSH 41 AND
BUSH 43.
AMBASSADOR, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
I KNOW IT IS UNDIP ME MAT TICK
AND RUFFLE FEATHERS IN
COLLEAGUES IN THE DIPLOMATIC
COMMUNITY.
IT IS REFRESHING TO AMERICANS TO
SEE A U.S. PRESIDENT FRANKLY
SPEAK TO THE DIPLOMATS AND NOT
ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK DOUBLE-TALK
AND GET AWAY WITH THINGS.
>> I'M NOT A PROFESSION AGO
DIPLOMAT.
I WAS APPOINTED.
WHEN THEY PUT IT ON THE TABLE.
THEY GET A HEADLINE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP CERTAINLY KNOWS
IS.
GERMANY IS DOUBLING ITS ENERGY
IMPORTS FROM RUSSIA WITH A
SWEETHEART DEAL WITH GAZPROM ON
GAS, JUST AS WE ARE SPENDING
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
TRYING TO PROTECT GERMANY AND
REST OF EUROPE FROM RUSSIA.
WHEN RONALD REAGAN TOOK OFFICE
WESTERN EUROPE, THE SAME
ARGUMENT WE'RE HEARING TODAY.
THIS IS NOT A NEW ARGUMENT.
PUTIN HAS TRIED TO CREATE OTHER
ALTERNATIVE PIPELINES THAT WOULD
ESSENTIALLY TIE UP EASTERN
EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, MAKE THEM
DEPENDENT ON RUSSIA, JUST THE
WAY HE DID UKRAINE WHEN HE SHUT
DAVID: THE THING ABOUT THIS
PIPELINE, KEEP THE MAP UP.
THE OTHER PIPELINE YOU MENTIONED
WENT THROUGH UKRAINE.
THIS GIVES RUSSIA THE ABILITY TO
AVOID UKRAINE, THEY COULD SHUT
OFF UKRAINE WITHOUT AFFECTING
REST OF THE FLOW TO EUROPE.
THIS PUTS UKRAINE AT DEFINITE
DISADVANTAGE.
>> FOR SURE.
LOOK, WE HAVE RESISTED, OUR
GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN RESISTING
RUSSIAN PIPELINES PLANS FOR A
LONG TIME.
WHAT DO THEY DO?
THEY'RE TRYING TO SNEAK
OFFSHORE, GO THROUGH THE BALTIC
SEA, COME ONSHORE IN GERMANY,
NOT GET CAUGHT BRIBING
GOVERNMENTS OR THE EU GETTING
PIPELINE OVER LAND.
GERHARD SCHROEDER, THE FORMER
CHANCELLOR RUNS THE PIPELINE
ENTERPRISE FROM MOSCOW.
DAVID: THIS IS WHAT REALLY
STINKS ABOUT THE DEAL.
GERHARD SCHROEDER, THE FORMER
CHANCELLOR LEFT IN 2005, HE LEFT
WITH THIS DEAL PUT ON THE TABLE.
HE SIGNED IT JUST BEFORE HE
THE OFFSHOOT OF GAZPROM IN
CHARGE OF THIS DEAL.
IT MAKES THE WHOLE THING LOOK
LIKE CRONY CAPITALISM, INSIDERS
DEAL AND A LOT OF GERMANS ARE
>> SO, DAVID, I HAVE TO SAY GOOD
FOR YOU, GOOD FOR THE MEDIA, FOR
BRINGING OUT THE FACTS.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT
PUTIN, WHETHER HE IS RELIABLE
ENERGY SUPPLIER OR WHETHER HE
USED ENERGY FOR GEOPOLITICAL
PRESSURE WHICH HE HAS.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TERMS OF
I WOULDN'T BE MAKING ACCUSATIONS
UNTIL WE FIND OUT.
DAVID: THERE IS A LOT OF SMOKE
DAVID: BUT THE OTHER THING THAT
GETS ME.
THIS HAS TO BE THE FINAL WORD,
ENDANGERING OUR COMMITMENT TO
NATO.
LOOK WHAT NATO IS BECOME,
$1.2 BILLION MONUMENT TO
BUREAUCRACY IT IS HOUSED IN IN
RIGHT NOW, IT IS SO BUREAUCRAT C
AND SO MUCH AFTER DARK HOLE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE BEING
POURED, YOU WONDER WHETHER IT IS
WORTH IT.
>> I WILL PUSH BACK.
DAVID: SURE.
>> I SPENT EIGHT YEARS IN THE
PENTAGON.
EVERY GOVERNMENT INVESTED IN
THEIR OWN MILITARY.
SO SUPPOSE EUROPE SPEND MORE ON
DEFENSE, IT WILL GO TO THEIR OWN
INDUSTRIES TEAR OWN TROOPS,
WE'LL SPEND MORE CATCHING UP TO
DEFENSE FORCE, WHICH IS A GOOD
THING OF THE POINT IT DETERS
AGGRESSION.
DAVID: IT DOES, BUT $1.2 BILLION
HEADQUARTERS?
DO WE REALLY NEED THAT,
AMBASSADOR?
>> I'M CERTAINLY NOT A JUDGE OF
BETTER THAN I.
DAVID: I'M A JUDGE OF MONEY.
1.2 BILLION SEEMS EXCESSIVE TO
ME.
>> I THINK DIPLOMATS AND
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CAN GET BY