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ANYONE WHO PRESENTS THEMSELVES
AS A LEADER AND WANTS TO BE A
LEADER WILL SPEAK LIKE A LEADER.
THAT MEANS SPEAKING WITH
INTEGRITY.
INTEGRITY. IT MEANS SPEAKING TRUTH.
>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY THE WORD
INDEPENDENT WHICH I VIEW MERELY
AS A DESIGNATION ON THE BALLOT.
>> DON’T HELP ELECT TRUMP YOU
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]. >> OH, GOODNESS GRACIOUS.
TWO 2020 CONTENDERS WITH TWO
DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT TONES AT
EVENTS AT MONDAY NIGHT IN IOWA
PUTTING OUT THEIR MESSAGES TO
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
WHO DO THE FIRST IN THE NATION
VOTERS THINK OF IT?
WE ARE JOINED FROM DES MOINES,
IOWA.
IOWA. VAUGHN, YOU’VE BEEN TALKING TO
ACTUAL VOTERS.
ACTUAL VOTERS. TELL ME WHAT’S ON THEIR MINDS.
>> Reporter: GOOD MORNING.
THE CONVERSATIONS WE’VE HAD WITH
IOWANS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS
HAVE BEEN THE QUESTION WE WERE
GOING TO ASK TODAY.
WHAT’S THE STATE OF THE UNION.
YOU GET THE SAME RESPONSE FROM
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS.
THEY LAUGH.
THEY LAUGH. THEY KNOW IT’S AT THIS POINT AS
ONE MAN TOLD US IT’S IN
SHAMBLES.
SHAMBLES. THEY WANT COMPROMISE, MODERATION
AND INDEPENDENCE, BUT ULTIMATELY
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL
POLITICS HERE WHICH WE’LL LOOK
AT THE NEXT YEAR, TO WHAT EXTENT
DO PEOPLE LOVE IT OUT WITH THEIR
VOTES?
VOTES? I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO TIM
VANDERBERG.
VANDERBERG. HE CONSIDERS HIMSELF MORE OF AN
INDEPENDENT.
INDEPENDENT. I ASKED HIM THE QUESTION HOW
LIKELY ARE YOU TO VOTE FOR THE
PRESIDENT AGAIN IN 2020.
THIS IS WHAT HE JUST TOLD US.
>> IT’S HARD TO SAY.
IT’S LIKE I’D SAY I’M -- IT
DEPENDS ON THE CANDIDATE THAT
COMES OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
TRUTH IS, I WILL PROBABLY VOTE
REPUBLICAN BECAUSE I DON’T FEEL
LIKE THE DEMOCRATS KNOW WHAT
THEY WANT.
THEY WANT. IT’S LIKE THERE’S TOO MANY
PEOPLE ON TOO MANY SEPARATE
SIDES OF THE ISSUES.
NONE OF THEM ARE REALLY UNIFIED
IN A LOT OF WAYS.
I DON’T THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH
SUPPORT TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
I’D PROBABLY VOTE FOR TRUMP
BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN HUMAN
LIFE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT STARTS.
HE WANTS TO PROTECT OUR ECONOMY.
HE DOES A GREAT JOB AT DOING
THAT.
THAT. >> Reporter: STEPHANIE, I ALSO
TALKED TO JEFF STAG, A GUY THAT
USUALLY ENDS UP VOTING DEMOCRAT
AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH,
DESPITE ALL THAT BACKLASH
AGAINST HOWARD SCHULTZ, HE TOLD
ME HE CONSIDERS, AGAIN, HIMSELF
MORE OF AN INDEPENDENT AND HE’S
INTRIGUED BY THE CANDIDACY OF
HOWARD SCHULTZ.
HOWARD SCHULTZ. HE SAYS HE THINKS THERE WOULD BE
ENOUGH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
TO PUT UP A POTENTIAL FIGHT
ESPECIALLY WITH THE UNPOPULARITY
OF THIS PRESIDENT.
WHEN YOU GO AROUND THE STATE AS
WE HAVE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS,
THAT CONVERSATION IS WHAT
HAPPENS TO ABOUT THAT 10% OF THE
POPULATION HERE IN IOWA THAT
HANDED PRESIDENT TRUMP THE
ELECTION IN 2016.
RECALL IN 2012 AND 2016 THIS
PLACE VOTED FOR BARACK OBAMA,
BUT THEN GAVE DONALD TRUMP A
10-POINT GOVERNMENT.
10-POINT GOVERNMENT. DOES THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?
DO THE TARIFFS ULTIMATELY, HOW
DO THESE THINGS AMOUNT TO THEIR
VOTES AND WILL THEY BE WILLING
TO VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT?
>> MY GOODNESS.
ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO WHAT
HOWARD SHULTCHULTZ HAD TO SAY TH
MORNING.
MORNING. >> I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE
LOOKING FOR A HOME.
AND IF REPUBLICANS HAVE A CHOICE
BETWEEN A FAR LEFT LIBERAL
PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATE ON THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE OR PRESIDENT
TRUMP, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING
TO GET REELECTED.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT
LODGE SNICK
LODGE SNICK LOGIC?
LOGIC? >> WELL, HE IS SORT OF
FASHIONING HIMSELF --
>> WAIT.
>> WAIT. HE’LL BE REELECTED, TRUMP IF
SCHULTZ --
SCHULTZ -- >> I THINK SO.
BECAUSE I DON’T THINK THIS
ACTUAL 2020 ELECTION IS GOING TO
BE THAT CLOSE, BUT THE TRUTH IS
IT SIPHONS.
IT SIPHONS. IT DOES SIPHON VOTES AWAY FROM I
THINK WHAT WOULD BE A STRONG
DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER TO THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, TRYING TO FASHION
HIMSELF AS SOMEONE WHO CAN TALK
ABOUT SOME PROGRESSIVE POLICIES
BUT ALSO WANTS TO GO MORE TO THE
MORE CENTER, I DON’T THINK THAT
IS -- THAT MIGHT BE FASHIONABLE,
BUT I DON’T THINK THAT WORKS IN
TODAY’S POLITICS.
TODAY’S POLITICS. IF YOU WANT SOMEONE WHO IS GOING
TO BE -- WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE
TO CUT DEALS, THERE’S NO
QUESTION.
QUESTION. SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO GET
THINGS DONE.
THINGS DONE. I DON’T THINK A DEMOCRATIC
ELECTORATE IS GOING TO WANT
SOMEONE WHO DOESN’T HAVE THE
KIND OF PEDIGREE THAT SUGGESTS
THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY MANAGE A
BUREAUCRACY AND GOING INTO
GOVERNMENT AND PULLING THE
LEVERS OF POWER TO GET THINGS
DONE.
DONE. I DON’T THINK THEY NECESSARILY
WANT SOMEONE WHO IS REMINISCENT
OF THE WALL STREET THEY’VE BEEN
RUNNING AGAINST.
RUNNING AGAINST. THAT’S WHY I HAVE ISSUES WITH
THIS CANDIDACY.
THIS CANDIDACY. >> I AM CURIOUS IF A THIRD PARTY
CANDIDATE CAN ACTUALLY IN
PRACTICE BE SUCCESSFUL.
OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS --
>> SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING OTHER
PEOPLE ELECTED.
PEOPLE ELECTED. >> I NEVER HAVE SEEN IN MY
EXPERIENCE THE FERVOR AMONG SO
MANY AMERICANS FOR A THIRD
OPTION.
OPTION. SO AMERICANS IN THEORY LOVE THE
IDEA OF A THIRD OPTION.
THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF SOMETHING
THAT’S A BIPARTISAN SPLIT TICKET
THAT -- A PLEDGE TO WORK WITH
BOTH SIDES, BUT IN PRACTICE,
WE’RE MORE POLARIZED.
WE SEE POLLING THAT SHOWS WE’RE
MORE POLARIZED THAN EVER, AND
PEOPLE DON’T IDENTIFY AS
INDEPENDENTS OR MODERATES AS
THEY DID IN THE 90s.
>> YOU HEAR SO MANY PEOPLE
SAYING I WAS A REPUBLICAN, BUT
NOW I’M BECOMING INDEPENDENT OR
TALKING ABOUT MYSELF AS AN
INDEPENDENT.
INDEPENDENT. BECAUSE BARACK OBAMA DID THIS
SUCCESSFULLY, AND I THINK THIS
IS WHAT -- THIS IS A NEW
FEATURE.
FEATURE. IT’S CANDIDATE DRIVEN.
THE PARTIES ARE MORE OF A
VEHICLE THAN THE PLATFORM FOR
POLICIES.
POLICIES. I THINK WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING
IS THAT SCHULTZ IS NOT THAT
PERSON.
PERSON. IT’S MORE LIKE A KAMALA HARRIS.
IT’S MORE LIKE SOME OF THE FACES
AND NAMES WE’VE SEEN COME UP
RECENTLY.
RECENTLY. SHE HAD A GREAT START TO HER
CAMPAIGN, BUT IT’S GOING TO BE
FACES THAT ARE MORE REMINISCENT
OF THAT WHERE PEOPLE BECOME MORE
ATTACHED TO THE PERSON AND NOT
NECESSARILY THE PARTY, BUT
THEY’RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT, BY
THE WAY, THE FUTURE OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> IF YOU HAD TO PICK A
CANDIDATE RIGHT NOW WHO COULD
FACE OFF AND WIN AGAINST TRUMP,
WHO DO YOU THINK COULD TAKE HIM
ON AT THE MOMENT?
>> OPRAH.
>> OPRAH. I REALLY DO.
I THINK OPRAH WOULD BE THE
STRONGEST CANDIDATE TO TAKE ON
DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. AND SHE’S NOT GOING TO RUN.
I THINK THE ROCK.
I DON’T KNOW.
I AM NOT GOING TO BET RIGHT NOW
ON ANY OF THE -- I’VE BEEN
CALLING IT THE 31 FLAVORS YOU
CAN PICK FROM, DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARY JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE HOW
SO MUCH IS -- IT’S SO UNSETTLED.
WHO IS GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY
BY THE TIME THIS THING REALLY
KICKS INTO ACTION.
WHO IS GOING TO GO SO FAR LEFT
THAT THEY CAN’T APPEAL TO THE
OBAMA/TRUMP VOTERS TO GET THEM
BACK.
BACK. WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE CALCULUS
BY THE TIME THIS PLAYS OUT?
>> WELL, THERE’S NOT JUST THOSE
MODERATE DEMOCRATS.
MODERATE DEMOCRATS. THERE’S ALSO MODERATE
REPUBLICANS.
REPUBLICANS. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> WHO ONE COULD PULL THEIR
VOTES FROM.
VOTES FROM. AND A FAR LEFT CANDIDATE ISN’T
GOING TO DO THAT, BUT THOSE
VOTES ARE UP FOR GRABS.
>> THEY ARE.
OCASIO CORTEZ IS NOT RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT, BUT SHE KNOCKED OUT A
STRONG DEMOCRAT IN CROWLEY.
WHAT HAPPENED IN DOING SO SHE
ESSENTIALLY CREATED THE
NARRATIVE FOR THE PARTY GOING
FORWARD, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE
RESULTS OF THE 2018 ELECTION,
THE RESULTS DON’T SUGGEST THAT
THAT REALLY IS WHAT HAPPENED ON
THE GROUND.
THE GROUND. >> DING, DING, DING.
>> YOU HAVE A LOT MORE DIVERSITY
IN TERMS OF IDEOLOGY.
IT’S GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR, I
DON’T KNOW, MAYBE THE TEN
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES THAT COME
OUT IN THE ELECTION.
IT’S GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR THE
PARTY TO SETTLE ON ONE OF THEM.
I’M HOPING WE DO NOT ELEVATE
SOMEONE AND END UP TAKING THEM
DOWN IN A COUPLE MONTHS.
>> WELL, AND THE LARGE PROCESS
YOU END UP WITH A NOMINEE WHO IS
LIKE DONALD TRUMP IN ANOTHER
VERY DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT