The rod of iron ministries is
surprisingly not a porno.
It's an actual church that worships
maga and assault weapons.
Lemme give you more
details about this.
So a pro-Trump religious sect that
embraces AR15s in ceremonies.
The Rod of Iron Ministries, also
known as The World of Peace and
Unification Sanctuary,
is run by Pastor Han Jin Sean Moon,
a conspiracy theorist who proclaims
that his followers are at war with
the deep state.
Okay, so
they're at war with the deep state,
they're also known as the World of
Peace and Unification Sanctuary.
Okay. >> That's
an aspirational name.
After you when you get that.
>> Did they not like maybe hesitate
a little bit with the other name
that they go by the rod of iron
ministries [LAUGH].
>> It's catchy,
I'd wear that t-shirt.
[LAUGH] >> If you're going to go to
war with the deep state bring a rod
of iron, that's what I say.
>> So, >> I don't know if it's self
parody, if it's supposed to
be a wink and a nod.
>> I don't know. >> They're crazy.
They're crazy people,
fundamentally, in multiple
different demonstrable aspects in
this particular story.
>> There are some concerning
aspects to this.
So first off, this is happening in
partnership with his brother's gun
company, so it seems like this is
an effort to sell guns for
his brother's company.
The two groups hosted their annual
freedom festival, a three day event
celebrating freedom, faith and
family, but that's not all
they were celebrating.
They're also are presentations
from certified NRA instructors
an AR-15 giveaway and gun raffles
and auctions with seminars on
the second amendment and
gun ownership.
More guns less crime and
the state of firearm-related legal
battles across the United States.
So they consider themselves
a religious sect,
I would like to understand,
whether they're tax exempt.
>> Mm-hm.
>> because this is not a church,
this is not really a church.
>> I don't know,
I love most of what they're doing,
I love especially that they're
doing seminars on the second
amendment like it's a seminar on
something that's like a dozen and
a half words and
they ignore half of them.
It should be a brief seminar,
[LAUGH] >> Honestly you're only
covering like
six words at that point.
>> Right.
>> Yeah, look, again it's crazy.
And in a context where more and
more elected Republicans as well as
regular Republican voters are out
now just supportive of political
violence.
And overthrowing the US government
having a religion that's explicitly
about, worshipping on the one hand
a gun and on the other hand,
a politician is scary.
On the other hand, they're more
honest than a lot of churches.
There are churches that are
perfectly fine and non political.
But there are others that are there
just as political justice biased
and in support of the same things
as these.
They're being honest about it.
You can't get sort of tricked into
supporting this stuff as a part
of being a part of the church.
It's right there in the name.
>> You know, it's interesting
because I just remembered
overhearing a conversation at
the airport in Florida.
This is the Fort Lauderdale airport
and there was a group of people in
line behind me as I was waiting for
a bagel.
>> It's good >> Yeah.
And they were talking about
prosperity preachers who obviously
scam their own parishioners out
of their hard-earned money so
they can buy multiple jets.
And they were actually outraged at
the negative media coverage of
those preachers.
They want these religious
leaders to be poor and suffering.
No they don't need jets.
They don't, like Kenneth Copeland
doesn't need an air his own
personal airport where he can park
his multiple jets.
You know what I mean?
Like there's a spectrum, right?
There's a spectrum.
>> [LAUGH] MAGA.
>> There's like poverty,
suffering living on the streets.
And then there's what
Kenneth Copeland is doing, which is
excess, it's conning people.
>> It's a movie allesium.
>> To robbing people, yeah.
I mean, it's just- >> Yeah to be
clear, I do want him to pour.
I'm what they say I am.
>> [LAUGH] All right, fair enough.
>> Suffering is fine,
I don't wish suffering anyone, but
I want him individually to be poor.
Nobody else, he'll be the only poor
person in America.
>> He's a bad dude.
>> Yeah. >> Bad hombre.
All right,
well, let's take a quick look
at this fun photo of these people
who are doing their thing.
And then finally, here's the part
that actually does concern me.
>> Wait, hold on,
you're just going to roll right
past the bullet crown.
>> I didn't even notice it
to be honest.
>> Like the full metal crown
[LAUGH].
>> It's very cool.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> They look badass.
>> Imagine worshipping guns that
much like I think- >> I think
they're cool but
I don't worship them I don't.
>> Yeah like I'm not- >> I know I'm
a weird lefty in that I'm like I
kind of like guns or whatever but
I also think they
should be regulated way more >> I
think they should be regulated I
don't think they should be banned,
I think they should be regulated
I've been clear on my stance.
So it's not like I'm one of
these like, extremists,
and wanting to do away with guns,
but at the same time I don't
understand the weird love affair
slash obsession with guns.
The things that I love the most I'm
not that obsessive about.
>> I get it,
I've said before, I think it's
just another version of when I was
a kid, I had a couple swords, I had
a replica of one of the swords from
Middle Earth.
I wish I could fight an orc.
But I can't.
And I've accepted that but
a lot of Americans haven't.
And they still want to be Rambo.
>> I guess so >> They want to be
diehard, they want to be all those
things and they can't move on.
I'm never going to have a world
that does the magics.
And they can't accept that.
>> That's fine, except they have
like imaginary enemies, right?
>> Sure. >> And so
here's the part that concerns me.
They just purchased a 130 acre plot
of land in Tennessee.
And they're using it as a holy
retreat and training center.
Why?
Moon said in a recent online sermon
that the Tennessee
property had triggered a spiritual
download in him.
She says Christ.
>> That sounds dirty.
>> Many, many,
many busloads of people are going
come to pray their moon said.
And do ancestor liberation there?
>> That's fine. >> He added, he
planned to build a divinity school,
elementary school and
MAGA politician incubator on
the property.
All right, well- [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'm sure a lot of great
things will come out.
>> That is like almost
exactly the plot of Far Cry five,
the video game, little Comic Con,
>> I was thinking the same thing-
>> You were- >> Yeah.
[LAUGH] Did you find six, yeah.
>> I don't any of that is-