>>> MY NEXT GEFLT IS KARAMO BROWN, ONE OF THE HOSTS ON
NETFLIX’S "QUEER EYE."
YOU’VE TACKLED MANY SUBJECTS
INCLUDING POLICE BRUTALITY.
YOU HAD THIS EMOTIONAL DIALOGUE
WITH AN OFFICER WHO SAID HE WAS
A MAJOR TRUMP SUPPORTER.
>> ALL I EVER HEAR USUALLY IS
COPS STICKING TOGETHER SAYING,
WELL, WHAT ABOUT US?
AND IT IS TRUE, WHAT ABOUT YOU
ALL.
ALL. BUT IT’S SORT OF LIKE, WELL,
WHAT ABOUT US?
WE’RE BOTH DEALING WITH THE SAME
PAIN ON TWO DIFFERENT ENDS, BUT
NONE OF US ARE LIKE
ACKNOWLEDGING IT.
ACKNOWLEDGING IT. >> RIDING BACK FROM ATLANTA WITH
YOU WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST
PARTS OF ALL OF THIS.
I REALLY EMBRACE IT.
>> HEY, I WANT A HUG LIKE THAT
TOO.
TOO. >> YOU’RE GETTING ONE NEXT TIME
I SEE YOU.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>> I WISH I WAS THERE.
YOU’RE DOING SOMETHING -- YOU’RE
A LEADER.
A LEADER. PEOPLE LOOK TO YOU, PEOPLE FEEL
INSPIRED BY YOU, AND YOU’RE
DOING SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR
EVERYBODY WANTS MORE OF, WHICH
IS YOU DON’T AGREE WITH THE GUY
ON CAMERA THERE NECESSARILY
ABOUT EVERYTHING, BUT YOU’RE
LISTENING AND TRYING TO CONNECT.
WALK US THROUGH WHY THAT’S
IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW MY BACKGROUND
IS IN SOCIAL WORK AND PSYCH
THERAPY.
THERAPY. IT’S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE
CAN FIND A WAY TO BUILD THOSE
BRIDGES.
BRIDGES. AS A COUNTRY WE ARE SO DIVIDED.
EVERYONE IS DEFINING PEOPLE BY
JUST ONE VOTE BECAUSE WE’RE AT
SUCH HIGH TENSION.
IT’S A TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW
MANY THINGS WE HAVE IN COMMON
INSTEAD OF HOW MANY THINGS WE
DON’T HAVE IN COMMON SO WE CAN
HAVE HARD CONVERSATIONS WITH
OTHER PEOPLE AND GET TO A PLACE
WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO DEAL
WITH SOME OF THE IDEAS AS WELL
AS THE CLICHES THAT PEOPLE HAVE
ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE GAY.
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT "QUEER EYE,"
AND YET PLAYING PAST THEM.
YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY PLAYING WITH
THE IDEA OF CONNECTION, OF
MAKEOVERS, OF ALL THAT STUFF,
BUT ALSO NOT BEING -- YOU KNOW,
NOT BEING NARROWED BY IT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE ALL, EVERY
SINGLE PERSON, NOT JUST ME AS A
GAY MAN, BUT WE ALL HAVE
DIFFERENT IDENTITIES,
DIFFERENT IDENTITIES, INTERSECTIONALITIES OF OUR
PERSONALITY, I THINK IT’S
IMPORTANT NOT TO CHECK THOSE
IDENTITIES AT THE DOOR.
WHEN WE’RE WORKING WITH THESE
HEROES, IT’S NOT ABOUT ME AS A
DPA MAN
DPA MAN GAY MAN, IT’S ABOUT ME AS A
FATHER, IT’S ABOUT ME AS SOMEONE
SAYING I NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND
MY STRUGGLES AS A PERSON IN THIS
COUNTRY AND HELP YOU SO THAT YOU
CAN SUPPORT ME AND BE AN ALLY
FOR WHAT I’M TRYING TO DO.
>> I LOVE YOU SAYING -- I MEAN I
FEEL VERY INTERSECTIONAL MYSELF
BECAUSE I’M A LAWYER BUT I’M
ALSO A NERD.
AND SO IT’S TWO THINGS AT ONCE.
>> I’M NOT GOING TO CALL YOU A
NERD BECAUSE I FOLLOW YOUR
TWEETS AND I WATCH THIS SHOW.
YOU COOL OUT WITH SOME OF THE
COOLEST HIP-HOP AND THINGS.
YOU ARE NOT A NERD BY ANY MEANS.
>> THAT WAS NICE OF YOU TO SAY.
I WAS NOT FISHING, I SWEAR.
>> I LOVE GIVING COMPLIMENTS TO
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. >> I WANT A "QUEER EYE" MAKEOVER
LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.
I REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL SHOW.
LET ME PLAY ANOTHER GREAT MOMENT
THAT YOU DID ON THIS SHOW FOR
PEOPLE THAT DON’T KNOW SOME OF
THE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS YOU
GUYS GO IN.
LET’S TAKE A LOOK.
>> SURE.
>> SURE. >> I WAS TERRIFIED TO GO IN
THERE ALONE AGAIN SO I REALLY
THANK YOU FOR GOING WITH ME.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I NEEDED THAT SUPPORT.
>> I CAN’T TELL YOU HOW HONORED
I WAS TO BE WITH YOU DURING THAT
JOURNEY.
JOURNEY. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KNOW THAT
THEY CAN LIVE AND THRIVE AND
SUCCEED BECAUSE OF YOU.
>> THIS WAS ABOUT TRANSGENDER
IDENTITY.
IDENTITY. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT
MOMENT.
MOMENT. >> SO SKYLER WAS OUR FIRST
TRANSGENDER HERO, WHICH IS WHAT
WE CALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE MAKE
BETTER.
BETTER. HE HAD BEEN STRUGGLING WITH
GETTING HIS GENDER MARKER
CHANGED ON HIS DRIVER’S LICENSE.
A CONVERSATION THAT NEVER COMES
UP, ESPECIALLY WHEN TALKING
ABOUT THE TRANS COMMUNITY.
FOR ME TO COME INTO THE SPACE, I
WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS
IMPACTFUL FOR HIM BUT ALSO WAS
GOING TO SHIFT THE CONVERSATION
IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE,
IN MIDDLE AMERICA, CAN
UNDERSTAND THE TRANS EXPERIENCE.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A DRIVER’S
LICENSE, IT’S SOMETHING THAT
WE’VE ALL GOTTEN AND ARE EXCITED
TO GET AT 15.
FOR MANY PEOPLE IN THE
TRANS COMMUNITY, THAT GENDER
MARKER CAUSES THEM NOT TO BE
ABLE TO GET ON FLIGHTS, NOT TO
FEEL SAFE WHEN THEY GET STOPPED
BY THE POLICE, NOT TO GO INTO
CLUBS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING
WHERE SOMEONE HAS THE RIGHT TO
DENY THEM JUST BASED ON THEIR
VIEWS.
VIEWS. FOR ME TO SUPPORT SKYLER IN
GETTING THAT, HIS LIFE HAS
DRAMATIC A CHANGED BECAUSE NOW
HE CAN WALK THROUGH THIS WORLD
AND FEEL VALIDATED WHEN HE
APPROACHES PLACES AND THINGS
THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED EVERY
DAY.
DAY. >> THAT’S GREAT, THAT’S WELL