Since the beginning of this year,
the right has wanted to know
who is it that shot Ashli Babbit.
Well, apparently they're about to
find out.
The police officer who fatally shot
Ashli Babbit,
who took part in the pro-trump
invasion of the US Capitol will
reveal his identity for the first
time in a televised interview set
to air Thursday evening.
So, just later on today,
the mystery will finally be solved.
So if you're not familiar with this
and why the right care so
much let's go through the history.
Babbitt was part of a mob of Trump
supporters who stormed the Capitol,
tried to climb through an opening
in a broken glass door
outside the speaker's lobby,
which leads to the House chamber.
The officer who was inside
the lobby, drew his service pistol
and shot Babbitt once in the left
shoulder causing her to fall
backward onto the floor.
She was transported to Washington
Hospital Center where she died.
And so
she has been lifted up by the right
as a martyr who was killed.
Like depends on who you talk to and
when by a member of Pensez security
detail or antifa or
it was a false flag or whatever.
Personally, I think the reality is
dark enough that a member of
the Capitol Police shot and
killed someone that seems bad
without adding in aliens and
lizard people and stuff like that.
But anyway Viviana,
he is going to have this interview.
It's with Lester Holt at 6:30pm
Eastern Time set to air just
three days after
the US Capitol Police Department
announced that it would not
discipline the officer following
an internal investigation.
The DOJ also previously said it
would not pursue criminal charges
against the officer who at that
point their
identity had not been disclosed.
So we're going to have
an interview.
There's no charges at least
as of right now.
We'll talk about a few other
potential cases.
But what do you think about
this decision?
>> The decision to not charge him
or the decision for
Lester Holt interview.
I mean, her body didn't get
charged.
Yeah, I'm glad that he didn't get
charged.
I think it's pretty expected that
if you storm a government building,
you're going to probably get
hurt in some way.
I've said before that I think that
this woman and many of the Q anon
supporters that were there on
January 6th are, or were suffering
from some sort of mental delusion,
some sort of illness where they
went along with this group ideology
and putting themselves in danger.
I mean, you have to really be
kind of a little bit off to think
that nothing's going to happen to
you when you do it or unless they
were fed information that
we are still trying to find out.
And they were told that nothing
would happen to them.
The fact that Lester is going to be
interviewing this officer I think
is interesting because we don't
hear interviews with officers who
are involved in these kinds of
fatal shootings all the time.
So why this one in particular?
I think it's also dangerous for
the officer to come forward.
So that's a concern for me as well.
>> Yeah, so
there's a few different areas of
this that I'm interested in.
One is, obviously this cop,
at least for the next few years
is going to have to worry about
some crazy right winger,
murdering them to avenge passionate
about who they didn't know and
don't know anything about.
And so the obvious follow up
question is, so why?
Why come out and do this?
Well look, obviously this potential
that it's a money thing or
whatever, but I also think it could
be that if they have reason to
believe that the identity is about
to be revealed any way.
Why not at least be the one to do
it with an interview rather than
just having it be like the opening
monologue on Tucker Carlson or
that once the actual commission
the hearings proceed in house that
as a result of whatever.
Either just the normal process or
right wing representatives they
might reveal his name.
So again maybe it's like
taking control of the timing and
the narrative.
But no matter what,
like after this, this cop obviously
is going to have to have security,
like the right is out of their
mind and
is desperate to kill this person.
And if they do, Trump is going to
put out some statement about how
people get mad, it's justified.
Like it's such a dark time when it
comes to political violence.
So, I don't know.
>> It is, I think a lot of these
Capitol Police officers have tried
to come forward to sort of plead
with the public like hey.
Especially these blue lives matter,
like that's what you're all
about, right?
So they've come forward and
been like, we were scared,
we were this and no one cared.
Is this interview going to make
a difference for the extreme right,
are they going to have sympathy for
this man who took the life of a
woman because he was doing his job.
I don't like to see violence from
police officers across the board,
but there are some times when you
can kind of understand how it
happened.
I think we'll be talking about
a case by case situation later on
where you don't understand.
And so I think it's important to
talk about.
I'm glad you're bringing it to
light here on your show, John.
I just hope there are some people
listening who actually see that
these cops were not supported,
these Capitol Police officers
weren't given the proper support.
The people behind them, the
weaponry, whatever they needed to
protect themselves it was sort of
taken away for some some reason.
We're going to find out more
I'm sure as time goes on, but.
My condolences to those who knew
Ashley Babbitt.
Honestly, I am sure you guys
are feeling her loss.
She sounded like she was a really
productive woman.
She went down this queue and on
pathway like many people have and
it has caused her alot of pain and
suffering.
Obviously it just cost her life,
but a lot of pain and suffering for
those around her.
>> Yeah. And a lot of other people
who have chosen this path
are having all kinds of issues.
They're really angry inside.
>> Yeah.
>> And they're not finding that
resolution.
So let's hope they don't have
another January 6th situation.
>> Yeah.
Yeah, I feel bad again.
Like I feel like Ashley David
didn't need to die and she died.
Because why?
Because Newsmax wanted Michael and
Del to advertise pillows on there
and Tucker Carlson wanted
to get you all worked up.
It was a whole bunch of grift.
They wanted views.
They wanted money.
So they drove people crazy to get
it. >> I guarantee that Ashli
Babbitt was watching the uprising
last summer and saying that those
people should have been shot.
I guarantee she was watching that
footage of people just breaking
windows of a Patagonia store and
saying that they should be shot and
they should be this and that.
But she thinks and others thought
that they would be totally fine
to bust into the capital,
being violent, holding weapons.
I mean with a plant like
tactical gear.
So there's a disconnect for them.
We already know there's a major
disconnect with these Q and
on people.
>> Yeah and by the way,
you mentioned this too.
Like one of the reasons
I don't like this interview is, so
far as I have seen with the limited
information we have
about the actual shooting.
The cop doesn't appear to have done
anything wrong.
But that said, I have no interest
in a prime time glorification of
a cop killing someone.
Like, our country already does way
too much of that and assumes that
they're always right and
couldn't have done anything else.
And so whether that might be
accurate in this particular case or
not, I do not want our country like
all coming together and
be like, yeah,
sometimes cops have to kill people.
Let's bear that in
mind for next time.
I'm not interested in that.
So I don't like any part of this.
I don't like the threats that
will come the cops way.
I'm not interested in the cops
identity.
Ashley Babbitt shouldn't have been
there and I don't like glorifying
police violence.
>> I agree.
You're absolutely right.
And I do think that there
are things that they could have
done not only,
they could have thrown tear gas,
they could have done some stuff.
I don't know what was going on in
this officers mind, but I don't
think it needs to be glorified.
Or you know,
if he's getting paid to do it,
I get it.
We live under capitalism and
I to have to sort of figure it out
amongst this system but.
>> Which I'm guessing not.
Is it a possible no?
>> No, he got it.
>> I don't know.
>> Yeah.
>> I would expect.
>> Or he's got a book deal.
He's got something to push on.
>> Sure, sure.
Yeah, that's a possibility.
>> We didn't mention that.
So his publisher was like,
why don't you go on Lester hole,
let people know who you are and
then they go.
>> That's true.
Well, you only have to wait about
four hours to find out actually.
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