TRISH: BECAUSE SHE HAS HER WAY
MESSAGE, THAT THE DEMOCRATS WANT
TO RUN ON, FOR NOVEMBER?
IS IT REALLY GOING TO HELP THEM?
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THIS SORT
OF BLUE-COLLAR, HARD-WORKING
DEMOCRAT?
JOINING ME RIGHT NOW, TOM
BORELLI, FROM THE CONSERVATIVE
REVIEW.
CAPRI CAFARO FROM AMERICAN
UNIVERSITY.
SHE HAPPENS TO BE FROM OHIO.
TIM RYAN, I KNOW SOMEONE YOU'RE
A BIG FAN OF THERE.
HE REALLY IS ON THIS CRUSADE TO
WORK FOR THAT AVERAGE, MIDDLE
AMERICAN, HARD-WORKING
INDIVIDUAL.
>> RIGHT.
>> HE DOESN'T TALK ABOUT
SOCIALISM BUT HE TALKS A LITTLE
BIT MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT
PEOPLE CAN GET ACCESS TO WORK.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW
BETWEEN SAY, HIM, YOU, AND YOU
KNOW, THE YOUNG WOMAN FROM
QUEENS AND ELIZABETH WARREN?
COUNTRY.
BETWEEN BEING DISCONNECTED FROM
THE DAILY LIVES OF, WHAT I WOULD
CALL REAL AMERICANS.
NOT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE IN
I CAN TELL YOU AS FORMER
LEGISLATOR, FORMER STATE SENATOR
FROM THE STATE OF OHIO, WHEN I
WAS DEALING WITH CONSTITUENTS,
WE HAD 11, 12, 13, 14%
UNEMPLOYMENT, THEY WOULD COME
AND ASK ABOUT BENEFITS, THEY
HATED IT.
THEY DIDN'T WANT IT.
THEY WANTED A JOB.
THEY WANTED RETRAINING.
THEY DIDN'T WANT ASSISTANCE.
SO YOU KNOW INCOME INEQUALITY,
DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE PREPARED TO
ADDRESS HOW WE WILL SOLVE THE
PROBLEM OF INCOME INEQUALITY.
SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER FOR
MOST EVERYBODY.
TRISH: SUCH A RISING STAR IT IS
UNFORTUNATE?
>> YES.
VALUES OF OUR PARTY.
TRISH: TOM, I GREW UP, YOU HEARD
ME TELL THE STORY BEFORE, IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE.
MY FATHER CAME FROM A VERY BIG
IRISH CATHOLIC FAMILY, EIGHT
KIDS.
CATHOLIC AND THAT IS HOW I GREW
UP.
THERE WAS NEVER ANY DOUBT, YOU
HAD TO BE A DEMOCRAT BECAUSE YOU
WERE IRISH AND YOU WERE
CATHOLIC.
THAT WAS JUST THE DEAL BUT THAT
GENERATION AND NONE OF THEM
WANTED A HANDOUT FOR ANYTHING.
THEY WANTED TO WORK.
MY GRANDFATHER WANTED TO GO AND
WORK EVERY DAY AND TAKE CARE OF
HIS EIGHT KIDS.
WALK ME THROUGH WHAT'S HAPPENED
TO THOSE FOLKS?
ARE THEY STILL THERE IN THE
PARTY?
>> I THINK TO A LARGE EXTENT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS DESERTED
THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN
OF THE UNITED STATES.
THAT IS WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AL
PEELED TO.
THAT IS WHY HE WON MICHIGAN,
WISCONSIN, PENNSYLVANIA.
HE IS FOR THE WORKING CLASS.
THE DEMOCRATS GIVEN THAT UP.
THEY'RE REALLY LEFT WITH THE
PROGRESSIVE FRINGE LEFT.
TRISH: BUT IF YOU WANT TO WIN,
RIGHT?
YOU WANT TO WIN WOULDN'T YOU
SAY, GOSH, THAT DIDN'T REALLY
WORK LAST TIME AROUND AND
>> THEY'RE DOUBLING DOWN.
I WOULD SAY DOUBLING DOWN ON
STUPID TO BE REALLY FRANK ABOUT
IT.
BASIC INCOME.
YOU CAN'T SEE A BIGGER
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPUBLICANS
AND DEMOCRATS FROM THAT.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WORKING WITH
BIG BUSINESS TO GET THEM TO
TRAIN WORKERS BECAUSE THERE ARE
THEY ARE NOT DOING IT OUT OF THE
GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART.
TRISH: WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?
WHY CAN'T THEY UNDERSTAND --
>> HERE IS WHAT MIGHT BE
THE PARTY DOES NOT HAVE
REPRESENTATION THE REST OF THE
COUNTRY.
YOU HAVE TOM PEREZ AND KEITH
ELLISON AS HEAD OF THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.
MORE OF THE PROGRESSIVE WING
DEALING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN YOU
THINK ABOUT WHO THE DONORS ARE
TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THEY
ARE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT COMING
FROM UBER-PROGRESSIVE WING.
NOT FROM THE GUYS MAYBE GET GIVE
$25 AT THE FISH FRY FOR THE
COUNTY DEMOCRAT PARTY.
>> LIKE TOM STEYER, THE
BILLIONAIRE, RIGHT?
THEY'RE FEEDING THE PROGRESSIVE
LEFT.
THEY GET MORE AND MORE ACTIVE.
TRISH: WELL, FOR THEIR OWN GOOD