>> LIZ: WHAT STARTED AS REAL
LIFE HOLLYWOOD THRILLER
INVOLVING SORT OF A GREAT ESCAPE
HAS NOW MORPHED INTO AN
INTERNATIONAL I GUESS YOU COULD
CALL IT MANHUNT FOR FORMER
CHAIRMAN AND CEO OF O AUTO GIANT
NISSAN GIANT CAR ALSO GHOSN.
JAPANESE AUTHORITIES ARRESTED
AND CHARGED HIM WITH FUNNELING
COMPANY MONEY FOR PERSONAL GAIN,
SKIPPED BAIL CHRISTMAS DAY AND
ALLEGEDLY WE DON'T KNOW IF HE
WAS DOING IT DISGUISED, BOARDED
A PRIVATE JET IN JAPAN, POSSIBLY
HIDDEN IN A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT
BOX BELONGING TO A BAND, THAT
HAD PERFORMED AT GHOSN'S TOKYO
RESIDENCE AND HEADING FOR FINAL
LY LEBANON.
HE IS RELEASING A STATEMENT A
COUPLE OF HOURS AGO SAYING HE
HAD "NOT FLED JUSTICE."
I HAVE ESCAPED INJUSTICE AND
POLITICAL PROSECUTION."
GHOSN HAD BEEN SUBJECT TO
INTERROGATION WITHOUT HIS
ATTORNEY AND HIS TRIAL WAS DELAY
ED ONCE AGAIN UNTIL 2021.
AT THIS HOUR THERE'S A STAKEOUT
AT THE HOME HE OWNS IN
LEBANON ON YOUR SCREEN,
INTERNATIONAL POLICE AGENCY
INTERPOL ISSUED A "RED NOTICE",
WHICH IS A REQUEST TO ALL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WORLDWIDE
TO LOCATE AN ARREST-WANTED
FUGITIVES.
PROVISIONAL ARREST RANT FOR GHOS
N, WHO FLED TO AVOID AN
APRIL TRIAL FOR FINANCIAL
MISCONDUCT CHARGES LET'S BRING
IN GEORGE MASON LAW SCHOOL
NATIONAL SECURITY INSTITUTE
FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT HERE, LET'S
SAY THE AUTHORITIES IN LEBANON
DO KNOW HE'S THERE, FIND HIM,
LOCATE HIM.
>> WELL, LIZ HE'S TOLD THE
WORLD HE'S THERE IN LEBANON AND
THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT IS THEY
KNOW HE'S THERE, THEY INDICATED
HE ENTERED THE COUNTRY LEGALLY
ON A VALID' PORT WHICH IS AN
INTERESTING AREA BECAUSE THERE'S
THREE PASSPORTS AND POTENTIALLY
A FOURTH, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE
THOSE ARE WE THINK THREE ARE IN
THE HANDS OF HIS LAWYERS BUT
LOOK IF THEY KNOW HE'S THERE THE
QUESTION IS WILL THEY EXTRADITE
HIM AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN
EXTRADITION TREATY IN PLACE WITH
JAPAN AND THEIR TYPICAL
PROCEDURE IN THE LEBANON
CRIMINAL CODE IS TO NOT
EXTRADITE CITIZENS TO OTHER
COUNTRIES.
>> LIZ: I KNOW CARLOS GHOSN.
I'VE INTERVIEWED HIM MULTIPLE
TIMES, BRILLIANT BUSINESSMAN.
HE WAS TREATED TERRIBLY BY THE
JAPANESE LEGAL SYSTEM IF TALKING
ABOUT A DEMOCRACY.
HE WAS ARRESTED AND THEN HE WAS
HELD OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND HE
DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO HIS OWN
ATTORNEY WHEN THEY INTERROGATED
HIM.
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, SO I GET
THE DESPERATION BUT HOW DO YOU
SEE HIM?
DO YOU SEE HIM AS AN
INTERNATIONAL FUGITIVE OR A
POLITICAL PRISONER OR SOMEWHERE
IN BETWEEN?
>> WELL OBVIOUSLY BEING THE
FORMER CHAIRMAN OF RENAULT, HE
CAME OVER TO WORK WITH NISSAN
AND THE QUESTION IS DID HE IN
FACT EXTRACT THIS MONEY TO
ENRICH HIMSELF?
THIS HAPPENS SOMETIMES WITH
SENIOR EXECUTIVES BUT THAT BEING
SAID AS YOU POINT OUT THE WAY
HE'S BEEN HANDLED IN JAPAN HAS
NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY WELL-DONE
BY THAT GOVERNMENT SO NOW HE'S
MADE HIS WAY OUT AND CLEARLY RAN
FROM JUSTICE EVEN THOUGH HE SAYS
HE'S RUNNING FROM INJUSTICE,
HE'S AVOIDED THE LAW HERE AND HE
WASN'T TAKEN THIS CASE TO THE
COURT, AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S
REALLY A QUESTION OF WHO DO YOU
BELIEVE IN THIS SITUATION, AND
THE QUESTION IS IS JAPAN GOING
TO GET HIM OUT OF LEBANON?
IT'S OBVIOUSLY EXTREMELY
EMBARRASSING FOR THE JAPANESE
GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S BEEN A
CHALLENGE FOR PRIME MINISTER ABE
, WHO WON A BIG ELECTION IN
THE PAST YEAR.
THAT BEING SAID THIS IS NOT
GOING TO HELP HIM IN JAPANESE
POLITICS FOR SURE.
>> LIZ: WE'RE LOOKING AT
PICTURES OF CARLOS GHOSN FROM
MARCH WHEN HE EXITED ONE OF THE
LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AND HE WENT,
TRIED TO GET OUT DISGUISED AS A
CONSTRUCTION WORKER DOWN TO THE
REFLECTIVE TAPE ON THE JACKET,
THE FACE MASK, DIDN'T REALLY
WORK.
EVERYBODY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS
GOING ON BUT WHAT IS YOUR
ASSESSMENT?
DO YOU HAVE A HYPOTHESIS ABOUT
HOW HE WAS ABLE TO DO THIS AND I
ASK, BECAUSE HE HAS COME OUT
WITH A STATEMENT ONCE AGAIN
SAYING HE AND HE ALONE HAD HIS
ESCAPE AND EXTRACTION.
DO YOU FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE
>> WELL HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T DO
IT BY HIMSELF.
IT WASN'T HIS FAMILY BECAUSE
THERE WAR ALLEGATIONS HIS LIFE
WAS INVOLVED.
HE TRIED TO PROTECT HIS FAMILY
AND AT THE SAME TIME HE
OBVIOUSLY HAD HELP BUT THE
QUESTION IS DID HE GET HELP FROM
THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT BECAUSE HE
WAS HOLDING AN ADDITIONAL FRENCH
PASSPORT IN THIS LOCKED CASE BUT
YOU HAD DID HE GET THAT PASSPORT
AND WHY DID THE JAPANESE LET HIM
DO THAT AND HOW DID HE GET IT
OUT OF THERE AND GETTING OUT OF
THE COUNTRY, HE COULD HAVE HAD
SOME HELP AND THAT'S A HUGE
ISSUE OF INVESTIGATION WITHIN
THAT COUNTRY.
THERE WILL BE REPERCUSSIONS I
DON'T DOUBT PEOPLE WILL GET
FIRED AS A RESULT, BUT IT IS
AMAZING ALMOST SOMETHING OUT OF
A MOVIE HERE LIZ, THIS GETAWAY
AND ESCAPE AND VERY EMBARRASSING
SITUATION FOR THE JAPANESE
GOVERNMENT.
>> LIZ: ONE LAST THING, ARGUABLY
YOU CAN BE ARRESTED, HELD AND
RETURNED TO THE COUNTRY THAT
WANTS YOU IT'S LIKE A WANTED
POSTER.
QUESTION, CAN HE EVER LEAVE
LEBANON?
>> WELL WE KNOW HE CAN PROBABLY
GET TO BRAZIL, AND TO WHERE HE
WAS BORN, AND TO FRANCE WHERE
HE'S ALSO A CITIZEN, BECAUSE
HE'S A CITIZEN OF THREE
COUNTRIES, BRAZIL, LEBANON AND
FRANCE, SO HE COULD PROBABLY GO
TO THOSE THREE COUNTRIES BUT IF
HIS PLANE IS DIVERTED ORLANDS
SOMEWHERE THERE IS A REAL
POSSIBILITY SOMEONE WILL TAKE
THAT RED NOTICE SERIOUSLY, BUT
IT'S LIKE A WARRANT OR WANTED
POSTER AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DO
TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY SO THERE IS
A POSSIBILITY THAT HE COULD BE
DIVERTED AND BROUGHT TO JUSTICE
IN JAPAN.