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HUNDREDS OF MIGRANT CHILDREN
STILL REMAIN SEPARATED FROM
THEIR PARENTS.
THEIR PARENTS. OF THE 2,551 SEPARATED FROM
THEIR PARENTS AT SOUTHERN BORDER
559 STILL ARE IN GOVERNMENT
CUSTODY.
CUSTODY. 386 HAVE PARENTS WHO ALREADY
HAVE BEEN DEPORTED, AND
OFFICIALS HAVE HEARD FROM 299
PARENTS IN THE LAST WEEK.
HOWEVER, THEY DON’T HAVE ANY
INFORMATION FOR 26 PARENTS AND
STILL HAVE NOT FILE ADD PLAN TO
REUNITE ANY OF THE 559 REMAINING
CHILDREN WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
MEANWHILE, A FEDERAL JUDGE IN
WASHINGTON ORDERED A PLANE
CARRYING A MOTHER AND DAUGHTER
TO RETURN TO THE U.S. WHILE
THEIR DEPORTATION HEARING IS
UNDERWAY.
UNDERWAY. U.S. DISTRICT JUDGE EMMET
SULLIVAN CALLED THE REMOVAL
PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS AND THREATENED
TO HOLD ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF
SESSIONS IN CONTEMPT.
ACLU ATTORNEYS WERE NOTIFIED OF
THE WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER
DURING RECESS AND REQUESTED THE
JUDGE DELAY THE DEPORTATION.
UPON ARRIVAL IN EL SALVADOR THE
PAIR WAS SENT BACK TO TEXAS,
ACCORDING TO DHS.
GENE ROBINSON, A FLOOB PERPROBLE
PERSISTS DESPITE ALL THE MEDIA
ON THIS CHILD’S SEPARATION.
STILL HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN
WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS AT THE
BORDER.
BORDER. >> THIS IS A CRIME.
THIS IS REALLY A CRIME THAT HAS
TAKEN PLACE.
TAKEN PLACE. CALL IT KIDNAPPING, CALL IT WAFR
YOU
YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT.
BEYOND OUTRAGEOUS THAT 559
CHILDREN REMAIN SEPARATED FROM
THEIR PARENTS AND THAT THE
GOVERNMENT KNOWS WHERE,
APPARENTLY, NEARLY 300 PARENTS
ARE, AND HAVE SPOKEN WITH THEM,
BUT HAS NO PLAN TO REUNITE THE
CHILDREN WITH THEIR PARENTS.
HOW CAN THAT BE?
HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY BE?
AND I BELIEVE, I HOPE, THAT
SINCE THIS ADMINISTRATION WANTS
TO BEHAVE IN THIS WAY, I HOPE
OTHER JUMPS, PERHAPS THE JUDGE
IN SAN DIEGO IN CHARGE OF THAT
CASE, ACTS THE WAY JUDGE
SULLIVAN DID AND SAYS, WAIT A
MINUTE.
MINUTE. WE HAVE LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND THOSE LAWS ARE GOING TO BE
ENFORCED, AND I’M GOING TO START
HOLDING PEOPLE IN CONTEMPT OF
COURT, IN CRIMINAL CONTEMPT OF
COURT, WHICH IS WHERE THEY ARE.
THAT’S THE SITUATION NOW.
THIS IS JUST OUTRAGEOUS.
>> AND I GUESS CASE BY CASE
THERE’S LEGAL RECOURSE, WHEN WE
KNOW OF A CASE, SUSAN, BUT TO
PUT THIS IN PRETTY PLAIN TERMS,
IT APPEARS OUR GOVERNMENT HAS
GONE ROGUE WITH HUNDREDS OF
CHILDREN.
CHILDREN. KIDNAPPED THEM, IS CURRENTLY
ABUSING THEM AND IN THIS CASE
DECIDED TO DEPORT ONE AND REMOVE
THE CHILD IN THE MIDDLE OF A
HEARING.
HEARING. IT DOESN’T FEEL -- THIS DOESN’T
FEEL NORMAL, AND THIS FEELS
ILLEGAL, AND DEFINITELY
UN-AMERICAN.
UN-AMERICAN. >> IT ABSOLUTELY IS, MIKA.
ON TOP OF THAT WE SEE THAT --
THIS ADMINISTRATION WAS NOT EVEN
CLOSE TO BEING PREPARED FOR WHAT
THEY WANTED TO EVEN DO, WHICH IS
WHY WE’RE IN THIS DISASTER THAT
WE HAVE.
WE HAVE. I WISH THAT THE FIRST LADY WOULD
TAKE HER PARENTS, THEIR NEW, HER
PARENTS ARE NEWLY CITIZENS, DOWN
TO THE BORDER AND SEE WHAT’S
HAPPENING TO THOSE CHILDREN.
NOW, THAT’S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE
THEY COULD RELATE TO, SEEING HOW
HARD IT IS, AND THE STRUGGLE
THAT PEOPLE HAVE COMING IN TO
THIS COUNTRY.
THIS COUNTRY. AND DON’T FORGET.
A LOT OF THESE WERE TRYING TO
COME IN LEGALLY.
THESE WEREN’T JUST ALL PEOPLE
TRYING TO COME IN ILLEGALLY, BUT
THIS IS NOT AMERICA.
THIS IS NOT HOW WE TREAT PEOPLE
ANYWHERE.
ANYWHERE. NONETHELESS AS OUR BORDER.
>> AND FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT
SUSAN JUST SAID.
>> IT’S JUST INCREDIBLE.
>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
WASN’T CLOSE TO BEING PREPARED
TO, FOR THE RAMIFICATIONS OF
THIS POLICY.
THIS POLICY. THEY WERE WARNED ABOUT IT BY HHS
OFFICIALS SAYING IT WOULD HAVE A
DEVASTATING EFFECT ON CHILDREN,
AND WE’VE SEEN NOW THAT THEY’RE
SO DESPERATE TO TRY TO CLEAN
THINGS UP THEY’VE NOW TOLD THE
ACLU, HEY, YOU BE IN CHARGE OF
IT.
IT. YOU HANDLE IT, BUT I WILL SAY
YESTERDAY’S ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE
OF HOW THE ACLU HAS STEPPED UP
IN THIS -- IN THIS DISASTER AND
HAS DONE REMARKABLE WORK AND
CONTINUED TO DO REMARKABLE WORK
DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
NOT -- NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF
LIBERALS.
LIBERALS. FOR THE BENEFIT OF CHILDREN AND
FOR THE BENEFIT OF AMERICA’S
REPUTATION ACROSS THE GLOBE.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. I THINK IT’S WORTH SAYING,
LINKING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER
THIS MORNING, YOU’VE SAID KIND
THINGS ABOUT TWO VERY DIFFERENT
AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS.
AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS. ONE IS RONALD REAGAN.
THE OTHER, ACLU.
RARELY DO THE TWAIN GET LINKED
TOGETHER, AND POINTED OUT AS
WORKING IN ALLIANCE, BUT THAT’S
WHAT THE COUNTRY AT ITS BEST --
THIS MAY SOUND SENTIMENTAL.
HELL WITH IT.
IT’S ACTUALLY TRUE -- THE
COUNTRY AT ITS BEST IS THIS
COMBINATION OF FORCES THAT MAY
OR MAY NOT LIKE EACH OTHER.
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK
TOGETHER IN THE MORNING, BUT
WILL IN THE AFTERNOON.
THAT’S THE NATURE OF COMPROMISE.
THE ACLU REALLY GREW OUT OF THE
RED SCARE OF THE 19-TEENS.
JUST HEARD THIS ISN’T AMERICA.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS AMERICA.
WE SHOULDN’T BLINK.
WE SHOULDN’T SHY AWAY FROM THE
DARKER ASPECTS OF OUR PAST.
WHETHER IT’S FIGHTING A CIVIL
WAR OVER SLAVERY, OR WOODROW
WILSON RESEGREGATED THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND CURBING CIVIL
LIBERTIES THROUGH THE WAR.
ALL THE WAY, JAPANESE
INTERNMENT.
INTERNMENT. ONE OF RONALD REAGAN’S FIRST
POLITICAL SPEECHES IN A WAY CAME
IN A CEREMONY TO HONOR THE
JAPANESE-AMERICAN SOLDIERS,
JAPANESE-AMERICAN SOLDIERS, DESPITE INTERNMENT HAD GONE AND
FOUGHT SO HEROICALLY FOR THE
ALLIED CAUSE.
ALLIED CAUSE. HE WENT WITH JOSEPH STILWELL TO
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TO PRESENT A
MEDAL TO A FAMILY OF A SOLDIER
WHO HAD DIED AND ULTIMATELY
PRESIDENT REAGAN, 40 YEARS
LATER, WOULD BE THE PRESIDENT
WHO APOLOGIZED FOR THAT GREAT
NATIONAL SIN.
NATIONAL SIN. SO THIS IS NOT CELEBRATORY, BUT
IT IS A SIGN THAT I THINK
FAIR-MINDED PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT
THE PANOPLY OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE
AND SAY, THIS SIDE GETS IT RIGHT
HERE.
HERE. THIS SIDE GETS IT RIGHT THERE,
AND THAT’S WHAT THE COUNTRY’S
SUPPOSED TO BE.
WE’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DEMONIZE
EITHER OUT OF, SOMEHOW OUT OF
THE PUBLIC SQUARE.
WE HAVE TO BE IN THIS TOGETHER.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. WE DO.
WE DO. AND DONNY, HOW FASCINATING IT IS
THAT, OVER THIS FIRST HALF HOUR
TODAY, WHILE WE LOOK AT THE
ABUSES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION,
AND COMMENTS THAT CERTAINLY
SOUND LIKE CALLS FOR WHITE
SUPREMACY, LOOK AT THE VAST
ARRAY OF VOICES THAT HAVE PUSHED
BACK, EVEN WITH REAGAN, BEYOND
THE GRAVE AT THAT SORT OF
BACKWARD THINKING.
BACKWARD THINKING. RONALD REAGAN TO THE ACLU, TO
GUY BENSON, TO A FEDERAL JUDGE,
ACTUALLY SAYING, "TURN THAT
PLANE AROUND AND GET THEM BACK
IN THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA."
AMERICA." WE STILL HAVE DUE PROCESS IN
AMERICA.
AMERICA. WHETHER DONALD TRUMP BELIEVES IN
IT OR NOT.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> SO THERE IS -- SO FOR ALL THE
NEGATIVE, THERE’S A HELL OF A
LOT OF GOOD OUT THERE TO SEE,
TOO.
TOO. GOOD CONSERVATIVES, LIBERALS,
INDEPENDENTS PUSHING BACK AT
THESE ABUSES.
THESE ABUSES. >> YEAH, JOE.
IT’S INTERESTING.
IT’S INTERESTING. I BET YOU GET SOME OF THE SAME
THING.
THING. YOU’VE SAID ON THIS SHOW A LOT
AND I’VE TRIED TO SAY IT ALSO
THAT DESPITE HOW TERRIFYING
THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW OUR SYSTEM
HOLDS, AND EVEN WITH THAT GUY IN
THE WHITE HOUSE, THESE CHECKS
AND BALANCES DO WORK AND IT’S
JUST WHY THE FOUNDING FATHERS
WERE SO BRILLIANT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT’S GOING TO REALLY
BE THE TELL IS IN NOVEMBER, AND
IF ANYTHING, IF THERE’S ANY
HARBINGER BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED
THE OTHER DAY, MIKE ALLEN
BROUGHT UP A BRILLIANT POINT
LEAD INTO THE SHOW, SAME MATH,
SWING THAT HAPPENED IN OHIO
HAPPENS ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
WE’LL PICK UP 43 SEATS.
I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL
SPEAK.
SPEAK. I WANT TO JUST GO BACK TO THE
REAGAN THING, I SAID IN IS TO
WILLIE.
WILLIE. INTERESTING IF YOU PUT UP A CLIP
OF W., OF HIS FATHER, OF OBAMA,
OF CLINTON, OF THE LAST
PRESIDENTS.
PRESIDENTS. THE TONE, THE CALM OF, WHEN YOU
LISTEN TO RONALD REAGAN SPEAK
VERSUS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE --
THE FIRST PRESIDENT IN OUR
LIFETIME WHEN HE COMES ON THE
AIR AS OPPOSED TO THE CALMER
CHEER, THE ANGER IN CHIEF,
UNNERVES YOU EVERY TIME HE
SPEAKS.
SPEAKS. JUST LISTENING TO REAGAN BEYOND
THE WORDS, WHICH WERE SO
HEARTWARMING AND REAFFIRMING,
HIS OVERALL TONE, UNDERSTANDING
THE JOB IN THAT OFFICE IS EVERY
TIME YOU GET UP IN, IT’S TO
SOMEHOW PUT YOUR ARMS AND BRING
300 MILLION PEOPLE TOGETHER
VERSUS EVERY TIME TRUMP GETS UP
THERE, BEYOND HIS WORDS, HIS --
THE VISCERAL QUALITY, THE TONE
OF WHICH HE SPEAKS PULLS US
APART AND IT’S A SAD COMFORTING
LOOK BACK IN REMIND US HOW WE
LIVE TODAY.
LIVE TODAY. >> ALMOST EASY TO FORGET.
IT HASN’T ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.
DON’T HAVE TO GO BACK LONG TO
SEE IT.
SEE IT. THE FAMILY SEPARATION, THE
ENTIRE RATIONALE, HEARD IT
PUBLICLY FROM THE PRESIDENT, THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE PEOPLE OUT
OF THE WHITE HOUSE, A DETERRENT
TO PEOPLE COMING TO THIS COUNTRY
ILLEGAL.
ILLEGAL. FEWER PEOPLE COMING.
SEE THEY MIGHT BE SEPARATED FROM
THEIR CHILDREN.
THEIR CHILDREN. JEFF SESSIONS SAID THAT OUT
LOUD.
LOUD. THIS WEEK WE GOT NUMBERS IN
ABOUT FAMILY MEMBERS ARRESTED AT
THE BORDER.
THE BORDER. THE DIFFERENCE IS MARGINAL AT
BEST.
BEST. ALONG THE BORDER LAST MONTH IN
JULY, 9,258 FAMILY MEMBERS WERE
ARRESTED.
ARRESTED. DOWN FROM 9,434 IN JUNE.
SO BY ABOUT 150 PEOPLE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS PLAN THAT
SEPARATED FAMILIES AND CAUSED
ALL OF THIS STIR THAT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE A DETERRENT HAS
NOT BEEN A DETERRENT.
>> IT’S ALL A SHAM.
EVERYTHING IS A SHAM THAT DONALD
TRUMP HAS BEEN SAYING ABOUT
IMMIGRATION AND WE’VE TALKED
ABOUT IT, WILLIE.
HAVEN’T WE?
HAVEN’T WE? FOR A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF.
THAT ACTUALLY -- ACTUALLY
THROUGHOUT DONALD TRUMP’S
CAMPAIGN, THAT THE, THIS
INVADING A HOARD OF ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS TO AMERICA.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> THAT REQUIRES THE BUILDING OF
A WALL, THAT REQUIRES FAMILY
SEPARATION, THAT REQUIRES ALL OF
THESE HARSH MEASURES.
IN FACT, WERE PROVEN TO BE LIES
BY THE STATISTICS NOW OF DONALD
TRUMP’S OWN GOVERNMENT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> AND BEFORE OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT THAT SHOWED THAT
THERE WAS ACTUALLY A NEGATIVE
NET IMMIGRATION PATTERN FROM
MEXICO.
MEXICO. MORE PEOPLE GOING BACK TO MEXICO
THAN COMING IN TO THE UNITED
STATES, MIKA.
STATES, MIKA. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WHILE DONALD TRUMP WAS
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
UNITED STATES. IT WAS ALL -- I CAN’T SAY THIS
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH. TO MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS
WHO ARE TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> IF YOU LOOK AT DONALD TRUMP’S
OWN GOVERNMENT WEBSITES AND LOOK
AT THE TRENDS THROUGH THE YEARS,
EVERYTHING HE TOLD YOU ABOUT
THIS INVASION OF ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS, IN 2016, WAS LIE.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> MORE PEOPLE GOING BACK TO
MEXICO THAN COMING IN TO
AMERICA, AND MIKA, THIS MORNING
STILL YOU HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN
RIPPED FROM THEIR PARENTS, ALSO
DONALD TRUMP CAN MAKE A CHEAP
POLITICAL POINT, AND WHERE IS
IVANKA?
IVANKA? AS YOU ALWAYS SAY?
>> NOWHERE.
>> NOWHERE. >> WHY ISN’T SHE DOING SOMETHING
TO FIX THIS?
WHERE IS MELANIA?
WHO YESTERDAY HAD HER
COMFORTABLE PARENTS, USED CHAIN
MIGRATION TO COME TO THIS
COUNTRY, WHILE LITTLE CHILDREN,
WHILE INFANTS, WHILE TODDLERS OF
STILL SEPARATED FROM THEIR
FAMILIES ON THE BORDER.
I DON’T GET IT.
>> ALSO THE MEDIA NEEDS TO STEP
UP AND I UNDERSTAND OUR
COLLEAGUES OBER AT FOX NEWS.
THERE ARE SHOWS IN THE EVENING
THAT EXIST WITH OPINION.
OF COURSE.
OF COURSE. WHERE ARE THE GUARDRAILS WHEN
YOU TALK ABOUT DATA THAT IS
CLEAR.
CLEAR. YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW? ABOUT THE NUMBERS.
I MEAN, THESE -- LAURA INGRAHAM
AND HER WHITE SUPREMACY SPEECH.
I -- I’M STILL AT A LOSS AS TO
HOW THAT MADE IT TO AIR.
AT SOME POINT THERE HAVE HO BE
GUARDRAILS.
GUARDRAILS. WHERE’S THE MANAGEMENT HERE?
HOSTS WITH A DIRECT LINE TO THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. WE KNOW ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE
TRUMP TRIED TO DO THAT WITH US.
AND AS SOON AS WE STARTED SAYING
NO TO THINGS THAT WERE CLEARLY
WRONG, RACIST, BIGOT, RACISM,
BIGOTRY, WHATEVER ELSE, AND HE
COULDN’T GET US TO SORT OF
PARROT EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED US
TO SAY AND FOUND THAT HIS
STRATEGY WITH US DIDN’T WORK, HE
GETS ANGRY AT US ON TWITTER BUT
DOESN’T TALK TO US BECAUSE WE
DON’T ACTUALLY MIMIC WHAT HE
SAYS, BUT THESE HOSTS DO.
THEY DO.
THEY DO. AND THAT, YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE
WEAK CHARACTER AND THEY CAN LOOK
IN THE MIRROR, THAT’S THEIR
PROBLEM, BUT WHERE’S MANAGEMENT?
WHO HEADS UP FOX NEWS?
WHO CAN ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN AND
SAY WE’RE A NEWS NETWORK?
>> AGAIN, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT,
IT’S ONE THING IF YOU HAVE
DIFFERENT VIEWS ON IMMIGRATION
POLICY.
POLICY. >> POLICIES FOR SURE.
IT’S COMPLICATED.
IT’S COMPLICATED. >> IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW
ON ABORTION, ON SAME-SEX
MARRIAGE.
MARRIAGE. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A SPEECH THAT
IS JUST, IT LINES UP DIRECTLY
WITH WHAT WHITE SUPREMACISTS
SAY, I DO THINK AT THAT POINT
MIKA’S QUESTION IS A FAIR
QUESTION TO ASK.
WHERE IS MANAGEMENT?
WHO APPROVED A WHITE SUPREMACIST
SPEECH TO GO ON THE AIR
YESTERDAY?
YESTERDAY? ON FOX NEWS, IN PRIMETIME?
WHO’S APPROVING THAT?
WHAT DOES RUPERT MURDOCH THINK?
WHAT DO HIS SONS THINK?
WHAT DO HIS FAMILY THINK?
DO THEY THINK THAT IS AMERICA?
THEY’RE IN THIS COUNTRY FROM --
FROM -- OUTSIDE OF AMERICA.
DO THEY THINK THAT WHAT SHE SAID
LAST NIGHT WAS OKAY?
DO THEY THINK, WEDNESDAY NIGHT,
DO THEY THINK THAT THROWING THE
DOG WHISTLES OUT AND INSTEAD
JUST APPEALING DIRECTLY TO WHITE
SUPREMACISTS IS WHERE THEY WANT
THAT NETWORK TO GO?
>> THEIR BUSINESS MODEL?
THAT’S NICE.
THAT’S NICE. >> YOU KNOW WHAT?
THAT IS -- THAT IS -- AS JON
MEACHAM SAYS THAT MAY ABOUT GOOD
STARTER FOR A NIGHT OR TWO.
IT’S A TERRIBLE FINISHER, AND I
CAN’T BELIEVE THAT THE
MANAGEMENT THERE, THE MURDOCHS
AND THE PEOPLE THAT OWN NEWS
CORPS ARE HAPPY THAT WHITE
SUPREMACIST SPEECHES ARE BEING
GIVEN IN PRIMETIME.
>> AND A SIREN TO FOX
MANAGEMENT.
MANAGEMENT. IF YOUR HOSTS ARE SO DESPERATE
TO BE CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT, SO
DESPERATE TO BE CLOSE TO POWER
THAT THEY CAN’T ASK QUESTIONS
AND THEY CAN’T USE THEIR BRAINS
AND KNOW BETWEEN RIGHT AND
WRONG, WHAT DO YOU HAVE EXACTLY?
IN YOUR PROGRAMMING?
THAT’S A QUESTION WE’RE ASKING.
STILL AHEAD -- WHY THIS FAMILY
SEPARATION CRISIS MAY NOT BE
SOMETHING DEMOCRATS WILL BE ABLE
TO CAPITALIZE ON TO RETAKE THE
HOUSE THIS NOVEMBER.
AXIOS CO-FOUNDER MIKE ALLEN WILL
EXPLAIN THE MESSAGING PROBLEMS
THAT BOTH PARTIES ARE HAVING
WITH TYPICAL GO-TO ISSUES.