want to bring in my colleague fox news
sunday anchor chris wallace moderated
debate number one chris how you doing
and good afternoon to you
these stories pop up every day with you
in a different part of the country what
are we to make as we follow this
ping-pong and this bouncing ball on
new ballots and bad ballots in various
states
well look obviously the system is going
to be stressed there were about
33 million mail-in votes
absentee and mail-in votes in the 2016
election we're probably going to get
double that
60 to 70 million uh i i the only thing
i'd say about
this particular case is they found it
they fixed it so uh
you know it's it you know it it's like
king i remember as a kid reading about
king canute who was
who would sit down at the at the edge of
the water and tell the waves to stop
rolling in
they're not going to stop rolling in
we're going to get tens of millions of
ballots
and we ought to do everything we can to
try to make sure that they're accurate
and
and that uh they're counted and we get a
a fair and legitimate election in the
meantime we're going to go to the board
in a moment here we'll show you that's
my little lesson about king
that's my lesson about canute today nice
i like it share it with your kids
pass the word i'm gonna show the folks
at home just how many people are voting
early in a moment here but
uh there's this dust-up that happened
again today um
among the uh the man who was supposed to
moderate debate number two
in in florida steve scully and
apparently he sent out this tweet last
night it came off his account it went to
anthony scaramucci it said do i respond
to trump against dated october 8th it's
since been deleted
he apparently says he's been hacked and
just moments ago the reports that
back in 2012 and 2013 the scully
reported again that he had been hacked
in both of those years now i don't know
was it a hack
were these what they're called direct
messages was it
filed incorrectly what what do you
believe the state of play right now is
for the
debate commission that seems to be on
some level
um fighting for credibility
well uh all i know is what i'm told
uh i i can't go in and uh as you know
i'm not even on twitter so i don't even
fully understand it
and i have to say one more good reason
not to be on twitter what happened today
uh but but steve scully is an honorable
man
uh he's a fair reporter um he
says and the commission says that he was
hacked
uh that when by hacked i don't mean that
they
you know like john podesta where they
hacked and they were able to
dredge out uh you know emails that he'd
actually sent
scully says that he never sent this
email somebody else using his account
getting into his account
senate forum uh or senator on you know
uh using his name uh and until
it's contradicted i'm gonna believe
steve scully he has a
very good reputation in this business
and
i find it hard to believe that he would
be lying about that
in addition to which i should say scully
in addition says
he has no relationship with scaramucci
and the only time he's ever had any
conversation with him
was when he spoke to him twice years ago
on c-span did you see the clip of peter
ducey in las vegas earlier in the hour
he was asking about second debate
um joe biden apparently said he doesn't
think it'll happen
i mean clearly it's not going to happen
right now there still could be a third
debate
so if you want to move second debate to
the number three and whether or not you
get all this in in the next three weeks
is a question mark
how do you believe it plays out when
you've got biden doing a town hall on
abc on thursday when we all thought that
america would be watching the two men
back on stage in miami before voters on
that same night
well that i think the debate on the 15th
is dead
and there is not going to be a debate on
the 29th there's no reason you know we
were talking five days
before an election there's not a chance
in the world that the biden camp will
agree to that
uh the biden camp i have to say has been
pretty straightforward in this whole
thing they said
there are three debates that were set
forward for the president and he to
to be together uh mine on september 29th
the 15th and the 22nd
and the president i think made a big
mistake when he
pulled out of the the the second debate
when it was
made a virtual debate uh you know
the man who wrote the art of the deal
should understand you can only negotiate
when you have leverage
and he has no leverage because he's
behind in the polls right now
so yes i can understand why he would
have preferred
a in-person debate to a virtual debate
but a virtual debate's a lot better than
no debate and that's what he's going to
end up with on the 15th
and i think there probably will be a
debate one more debate on the 22nd
just as the commission always said uh
strauss writes in the wall street
journal more than 20 million americans
watched wednesday's debate
and many were likely getting the facts
about the bernie biden agenda for the
first time what she's going after there
is
whether or not mike pence was able to uh
fire a few shots of kamala harris and
the agenda did
how did you see this debate the other
night while you were watching
from the comfort of your home i assume
this time around chris
yes uh well the comfort from this studio
but yes
uh i i thought pence did a good job and
you know that's one of the other
problems with the president summarily
on thursday morning pulling out of the
debate there are
a lot of republicans who would have been
happy to have the storyline of what mike
pence did on wednesday night
play out for a few days questions about
uh
the the the what they call radical
left-wing agenda
uh of the biden harris team uh the
question that uh
that harris refused to answer as biden
has refused to answer about whether or
not they would pack the court those are
all very good questions still are
things that would have normally come out
of that out of that debate
but they didn't because of the fact that
the president jumped in and said he
wasn't going to
hold his debate if it was virtual yeah
the thing about the supreme court
question it hasn't been answered yet
and you know from your own experience
chris the longer you go without
answering a question
the bigger the story it becomes and this
has really become a story around the
biden campaign would you not agree
absolutely i i and i don't think you
know what we got a little bit more than
three weeks i guess it's uh
23 25 days until the election
i don't think that uh biden and harris
are going to be able to hold on
and look at the answer that biden gave
yesterday he said look if i give you my
answer
it's going to be the headline well so
what is it he's going to say
i assume you know what would be the
headline
you would think that would be if it's
going to be a big headline if he says
i'm not going to pack the court that's
not a big headline
that i'm going to pack the court so it
certainly raises questions and i think
it's impossible
and frankly i think would be foolish for
biden to try to hold out and refuse to
talk about this
for the next 25 days i understand why
he's doing it because if he says i'm
going to pack the court
that turns off a lot of more moderate
voters and if he says i'm not going to
pack the court
that turns off people on the left wing
of the democratic party but i don't
think you can walk this tightrope for
three plus weeks and get away with it
nice to see you chris see on sunday