Last night we found out that there were a number
of members of Congress during the melee that was seeking pardons.
The things that you don't seek unless you've done something wrong in particular,
the one that was called out was Republican Scott Perry who happens to represent
the 10th district in Pennsylvania, watch this.
>> As you will see, Representative Perry contacted
the White House in the weeks after January six to seek a presidential pardon.
Multiple other Republican Congressmen also sought presidential pardons for
their roles in attempting to overturn the 2020 election.
>> Yeah pardons those things you don't seek unless you did something wrong.
That really tells us it's essentially an admission of guilt as far as I'm
concerned.
But we know more about the whole pardon situation, this per politico.
So Perry was a major actor and then President Donald Trump's attempt to
overturn the election connecting Trump with Jeffrey Clark, an official in
the Department of Justice who supported Trump's efforts according to testimony and
documents obtained by the committee.
Cheney on Thursday talked about how close the former
president came to appointing Clark as acting attorney general and
not the former president wanted Clark to send a letter to Georgia and
five other states saying that the US Department of Justice had identified
significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election.
This letter is a lie, Cheney said.
Now Perry is what the chair of the kinda of the pro-Trump freedom caucus it seems.
And as Cheney pointed out,
the Congressman refused to comply with a subpoena to appear.
This is what she said, Mark, just checking in as time continues to
count down Perry texted Meadows on December 26, 2020,
according to messages released by the select panel, 11 days to 1,
6, and 25 days to the inauguration, we gotta get going.
These efforts were halted after other Justice Department leaders threatened to
resign if Trump moved forward with selecting Clark as attorney general.
It definitely seems like these text messages tend to be pretty damning,
especially those that Mark Meadows released, which makes you wonder why he
didn't get hit with that misdemeanor for failing to comply with the committee.
But we definitely seem to have gotten a lot of information from how he was using
his phone Brett.
>> This is coup stuff.
Whenever there's a coup it's not like someone with one sword runs into the best
steel and says I'm in charge now.
No, you take your group of people, you get them in place,
you replace the same people who run the government or
the insane people who run the government based on your opinion and
you go in and you bring in a new government and put it in place right.
Now what makes this a bad kind of a coup, is that the things that Trump and
the company wanted to replace we're decent,
fundamental, tenets of American democracy.
The idea that a lot of people voted for Joe Biden and
fewer people voted for Donald Trump in every other country in the world
really you'd say well Joe Biden should be president in America,
It's crazy already because we have the electoral college.
So that's not normally enough,
Joe Biden overcame not only the popular vote problem but
overcame the electoral college nonsense.
And even in the eyes of people like Bill Barr, and
Ivanka Trump people who Trump brought in to be on his side,
there was no credible claim that Trump should be president.
And so Trump to prove that this is crazy, those folks were on that side,
the people that gonna help him form a new government that is not an American
style government, those people did things we have documented,
I'm gonna come in, I'm gonna do this.
The release text messages say this is our plot to orchestrate the coup and
it didn't come to fruition because people stopped them and
that's all we're pointing out and if that's not enough afterward.
Adrian you're more of an expert on this than me but the men's rea the mind of
the person, the intent, the knowledge of culpability, he knows he's culpable
because in the wake of it, the guys asking to be pardoned by the president.
Another bat crap crazy thing about the United States is the president like who
are my role boys on my way out.
The only reason we forgive the presidential pardon process is
that it usually happens at the very end as they're flushing out the old guard and
replacing it peacefully with the new guard.
Something that as we have quite well-documented everyone in Trump's orbit
sought to stop through a coup both administrative, through
what we just discussed, and violence through the people that we all know and
there's not much coverage of that on this show here today.
But because we all know it who watched this show, there were violent people who
released new footage of saying we are going in there and this is our streets and
they broke windows and they went in to kill Mike Pence and to hang Nancy Pelosi.
That's cool.
And it's not cool with me.
>> No, no, definitely.
I it shouldn't be cool with anybody who believes in democracy and
just wants a normal piece for transfer of power based on what the people
have wanted in terms of their will with the vote.
And it is interesting to the extent that we look at this whole conspiracy element,
at least for me in the legal realm because generally when you start to conspire to
commit a crime to be able to break away and not be responsible for
the crimes that are committed in the aftermath.
That requires a good I'm not doing this, pushing away, making it so
abundantly clear but it seems that a number of people and participants have
continued to be a part of Trump's nonsense, even in the aftermath.
And I think they should be held accountable for every crime and
every offense against our country that has been committed since day One when they
started planning this coup.
So it's probably from Gosh, what Election Day onward, if not even before, and
the things we continue to learn the the information that's coming out it is scary.
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