>> Martha: STILL GOING THROUGH
THIS LETTER AN INTERESTING PAGE
IN HERE AS WELL.
DAVID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BRET BAIER, ANCHOR OF "THE
SPECIAL REPORT," GREAT TO HAVE
YOU WITH US AS WE ALL CONTINUE
TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS.
SOME OF IT READABLE, BUT A BIT
OF IT ACTUALLY BLACKED OUT.
WHAT IS YOUR IMPRESSION OF WHAT
WE ARE SEEING HERE?
>> THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE
SEEN BLACKED OUT IS OBVIOUSLY
THE MEAT OF HOW THEY GET TO THIS
RAID.
AS WE FEARED A LOT OF WHAT WE
ARE SEEING IS NOT GOING TO
PAINT THE PICTURE OF WHY THEY
WENT IN.
I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
QUESTIONS THAT COME FROM THE NEW
DOCUMENTS.
ONE IS, WHEN WAS THIS GRAND JURY
IMPANELED?
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS IMPANELED
LONG BEFORE THE LEAD UP TO THIS
RAID.
WHICH MEANS THIS ELEMENT OF THE
INVESTIGATION THAT GOES BEYOND
JUST THESE DOCUMENTS AND PERHAPS
IT GOES TO OTHER THINGS LIKE
JANUARY 6 AND PERHAPS OTHER
THINGS.
WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IN THESE
DOCUMENTS ARE BASICALLY THE
OUTLINES OF WHAT WE ASSUMED THAT
THERE WAS CONCERN AFTER THE
FIRST 15 BOXES OF WHAT THEY SAW
WITH CLASSIFIED MATERIALS IN
THOSE BOXES THAT THERE WERE
OTHER MATERIALS THAT THEY WERE
CONCERNED ABOUT AT MAR-A-LAGO.
AND THAT IS WHAT LEADS TO THE
RAID.
BUT WE DON’T HAVE THE MEAT OF
THE DECISION-MAKING.
THAT IS WHAT THIS JUDGE REFERRED
TO THE DOJ TO SAY, IT IS FINE.
YOU MAKE THE REDUCTIONS REDACTIO
WITH IT.
AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.
I DON’T THINK IT GIVES US A TON
OF NEW INFORMATION.
>> Martha: AND I THINK THAT IS
THE PURPOSE DESIGNED FOR THAT
PURPOSE PERHAPS.
AND JUDGE REINHART, THE
MAGISTRATE IN FLORIDA WAS
CRITICIZED BY TRUMP SUPPORTERS
INITIALLY FOR SIGNING OFF ON
THIS RAID IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO THEN, HE SAYS TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, OKAY SHOW
THEM WHAT YOU SHOWED ME TO THE
GREATEST EXTENT THAT YOU CAN TO
TRY TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE
REASONING FOR ALL OF THIS.
SO NOW WE HAVE THIS SORT OF
THING IN THE MIDDLE, BRETT, THAT
DOESN’T SATISFY THE REASON FOR
GOING IN.
THE JUSTIFICATION FOR GOING IN,
OR IT OPENS A LOT OF BOXES AND
PEOPLE WILL READ INTO SOME OF
THESE LINES ALONG THE WAY.
NBC LEGAL ANALYST WHO BASICALLY
SAID, LOOK, YOU ARE BETTER OFF
NOT RELEASING ANY OF THIS UNTIL
YOU SIGNIFY YOUR NEXT LEGAL
STEPS HERE.
SO, WE ARE NOW IN THE MIDDLE
GROUND BASED ON THIS.
>> WE ARE IN LIMBO.
WE ARE IN LIMBO WHEN IT COMES TO
WHAT THE REAL REASON IS HERE.
WE ARE GOING TO KEEP DIGGING
THROUGH THIS.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING AROUND
THE EDGES THAT SHOWS US A LITTLE
MORE, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF MEAT
OF THE EXPLANATION IS ENTIRELY
BLACKED OUT.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE FEARED FROM
THE BEGINNING.
AND THE REASON IS THEY ARE
PROTECTING WITNESSES THAT THEY
SAY HELPED IN THE GRAND JURY AND
THEY HOPE TO MOVE THIS FALL
ALONG.
BUT WHY?
WHAT IS THE END TO THIS FOR THE
ACTIONS THAT THEY TOOK?
SO, WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
WE KNOW THERE WERE CLASSIFIED
MATERIALS.
WE KNOW THAT THEY SAW THEM IN
THE FIRST 15 BOXES AND THAT THEY
BELIEVED THERE WERE OTHER
MATERIALS.
AFTER THE RAID, THEY HAVE A LIST
OF MATERIALS AND SOME OF IT THE
MOST CLASSIFIED THAT THE U.S.
HAS.
AND WE ARE IN THE SAME CIRCLE
THAT WE HAVE BEEN SINCE THE
BEGINNING.
>> Martha: YEAH, THERE IS A
WHOLE POLITICAL SIDE TO ALL OF
THIS AS WELL.
IT FEELS LIKE FIRST WE NEED TO
GET THROUGH THE DOCUMENT SIDE OF
IT.
YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT ABOUT WHEN
THIS GRAND JURY WAS IMPANELED.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE DON’T KNOW
BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT, THERE
ARE AT LEAST FOUR POTENTIAL
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE
UNDERWAY INTO THE FORMER
PRESIDENT.
TWO OF THEM FALL UNDER THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
WHEN IS THIS NARA ISSUE OF THE
ARCHIVE ISSUE BROUGHT TO THE
DEPARTMENT AND REFERRED TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE
OTHER OF THE JANUARY 6
INVESTIGATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT AS YOU MENTIONED,
BRETT MY WEATHER INTERSECTION
BETWEEN THE TWO.
AN EFFORT TO DIG FOR JANUARY 6TH
INFORMATION AND STILL AN
OUTSTANDING QUESTION.
>> IT REALLY IS, AND I THINK
ANDY McCARTHY HAS SHED LIGHT
ON THIS BEFORE THAT THERE IS A
BELIEF THAT PERHAPS THERE WAS
SOMETHING BIGGER THAT THEY WERE
SEARCHING FOR.
BUT THE IMPETUS FOR THE
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IN THE
POSSESSION OF THEM, EVEN TRUST
THE POSSESSION OF THEM IS THE
QUESTION, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A
FORMER PRESIDENT.
THERE IS A LOT HERE THAT WE HAVE
TO DIGEST.
THE 1978 PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS
ACT AND HOW THAT AFFECTS ALL OF THIS.
WE ARE GOING TO DIG
TREMENDOUS TRUMPIAN MOVE, WE
HAVE THE LETTER FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT THEY
PREVIOUSLY INDICATED, THEY HAVE
SEEN WHERE THE DOCUMENTS ARE
STORED, THEY DON’T THINK IT’S
SECURE ENOUGH AND THEY HAVE
ASKED FOR, WE REMEMBER, ANOTHER
PADLOCK TO BE PUT ON IT.
THE BIG QUESTION THAT REMAINS,
IS WHY.
RIGHT?
WHY DID THE PRESIDENT, WHY WAS
HE HOLDING ON TO THESE MATERIALS
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY
CONTINUED TO ASK FOR THEM, WHY
WAS THERE NOT AN ABILITY TO MAKE
SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT ABOUT
RETURNING ALL OF IT THAT HE
COULD, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BE AT
PEACE WITH AND THEN THE
REPORTING THAT HE SORT OF FELT
LIKE THIS IS MY STUFF AND I HAVE
THE RIGHT TO IT.
>> Bret: BUT WHY ALSO WASN’T
THERE ANOTHER SUBPOENA, ANOTHER
EFFORT AT INTERACTION.
WERE THEY SEEING A TOTAL
STIFF-ARM FROM THE TRUMP PEOPLE?
THAT’S NOT IN THIS DOCUMENT YET,
AT LEAST WE CAN’T SEE IT.
>> AND THAT’S THE BIG QUESTION,
WHY FIGHT SO HARD TO HOLD ON TO
THE DOCUMENTS, WHAT IS IN THEM
AND WHAT DID HE WANT TO RETAIN
THE POSSESSION OF AND FOR WHAT
REASON, AND IS THEIR CLAIM
LEGITIMATE BASED ON THAT.
BRET, THANK YOU.
I HAVE A FEELING WE’LL BE SEEING