It is rivalry week and you know,
Jim Harbaugh has never beaten Ohio
State as the head coach of Michigan.
Ryan Day has one win, of course,
last year's game was cancelled,
joined now by Dave Holmes at Adam
King of 10 TV and Bobby Carpenter and
Anthony Rothman from 97.1 the fan Guys.
What do you think the respect
level is between these two guys?
We all know about Bo and Woody,
what it was like,
but I detect there might be
some interesting feelings.
Between these two gentlemen,
I think that there's a level of respect
that comes with having a position
of that power in college football.
These are two of the premier programs,
but I think it Ryan inherited
a lot of what you know.
The animus that urban maybe had.
They're going back and forth,
and, you know hardball.
He hasn't been able to get a victory,
so he's kind of picked at things and and made
comments about how things should operate.
Or maybe some offseason protocols,
and there's rumors about, hey,
you worry about your team will worry about
hours on some coaches conference calls.
I think last year.
Cancellation.
Right, they said you want to hang 100 on him.
I think that's all pent up,
and that's going to be unleashed here
this week as we see those guys out there
'cause there's an understanding that,
hey, you respect your rival.
But if you're also going
to start saying things,
that might be a little out of bounds.
We're not going to hold any punches either.
Ryan worked under Urban Meyer,
who is undefeated against the rival,
so he was. He was kind of in that DNA
of how you treat your rival, coach.
Jim's awkward, you know it.
He's he's. He's an off dude,
man, but I'll give him credit.
There was one line.
This season when they asked
him and he'll face it.
You don't know whether to downplay the
rivalry a little bit to take the pressure
off your guys or ramp it up to embrace it,
but when he was asked about it this year,
he said we're going to beat
him or we're going to die.
Trying it was probably his best quote
that he's ever had in the rivalry.
Like Brady Hoke, who probably if
he gets that two point conversion,
maybe Jim Harbaugh isn't even the coach
at Michigan today, you don't know.
And if Harbaugh gets if that
fourth down call goes his way,
maybe the momentum switches it doesn't.
So now the.
The pressure builds, but to me Dom.
I think there's an inherent
respect because of the game.
Michigan wants to win it as badly
as possible and end the Hex.
Ohio State certainly wants
to keep the win streak going,
and that's kind of where we stand.
I don't think it's as deep as what you
said was certainly with Woody and Bo.
Well, Dave, does it surprise
you at all because you know,
I remember Jim Harbaugh and you remember,
you know when he was a player guaranteed
victory when he was in Michigan,
he understood how important this game is.
And now I mean and Bobby brought it up.
I mean, he's always like taking
his little digs and whatever.
I mean, why is he doing
this? So before I worked here,
I was in Toledo and I covered this game.
I covered Michigan and Ohio State because
you're closer to Ann Arbor, but it's
still about 7030 Buckeye fans in Toledo.
I was there the day Harbaugh was hired at
his news conference and swear on my life.
I thought he was doing stick.
I thought he was doing a character.
He was so so aloof and
odd and short and Corky.
And once you got about four or five of them,
you realize this is this dude.
He's just a weird dude.
He's a different kind of guy.
Remember him that way is A play,
no, but he's yeah, right?
I don't remember him.
I know I remember as a Colts quarterback.
I'm not quite old enough to take
him as a Wolverines quarterback.
Well, I,
I mean he's a quirky guy and the thing
that's weird is it's not like he
doesn't want to win this obviously,
but he does a lot of understanding
when you ask him.
I go up there every year on this
Monday and I and I asked him about
the rivalry and every year since then,
yeah, we just want to hide.
You know he's so under his breath and
he just doesn't really lean into it.
Ryan Day leans into it.
I mean,
it's weird to me that a New Hampshire
guy seems to lean into it more than
the guy who bleeds maize and blue.
Well,
I think the interesting thing there
and you guys kind of touched on it.
He doesn't have much else
to say in this rivalry.
I mean when the numbers show that
you have yet to beat Ohio State.
All you have at that point is talk,
and it's not. You know,
some of the losses have been close.
I mean that the double overtime game
that's obviously one right after
he was complaining about the spot,
but there's not much you can say
after Dwayne Haskins dropped
sixty on your Michigan team.
Other than, hey, we'll get him next year.
Hey, Will do this, and I'm also with you.
I was going to touch on that Ryan Day.
He is not a Buckeye guy at heart yet.
He does seem to have sold this rivalry more.
He seems to bleed this rivalry more
than even Jim Harbaugh does that.
Well.
I think there's more to
this this relationship.
Going back to what Bobby said,
going back last year.
That conference call.
And and you know where Ryan
said he was going to hang a.
Really do believe.
I think there is some dislike there.
Bobby,
I think there is and Ryan knows how
talented his team is and I think part
of the reason why Jim Harbaugh doesn't
lean in quite as much as maybe he did
back when he was a player as he knew.
And he knows that his roster isn't
quite as talented as Ohio State.
This isn't like the 90s where
you could have argued Ohio State
had better teams and still lost.
Now Ohio State has better teams and the
talent gap has really is really spread
and so I think he doesn't want to put
undue pressure on his players saying.
We're going to go out and guarantee
something that no coach is going to
be out there making a tackle, right?
No coach is going to be catching a ball.
No ones throwing a pass.
Those days are done,
so I think he's trying to take
some of the heat off his guy.
I'm shocked to Anthony because I
remember when he was a player.
I mean he was. He was a cocky guy,
guaranteed victory and you know he
played for for both Schembechler he paid,
played for Mike Ditka?
I mean, I mean my goodness.
I mean, let me tell you,
I guarantee he's learned.
He knows what anger is.
And when did it may be changed from him?
Going to cocky player to awkward coach,
it was playing for Mike Ditka.
I covered those bears teams.
I interviewed him,
then Mike Ditka wanted to rip his throat out.
I mean. And he beat the you know what
out of him and I remember covering
a press conference or a post game.
Actually against the Vikings Vikings.
Come back and win and they
asked him about it. He goes.
I can't call an audible anymore
like a little kid that isn't
allowed to have dessert anymore.
He said what did Mike say?
I'm not allowed to call an audible anymore.
So if you want to know where this thing went.
Off the road.
It was when he had,
so he has a ****** **** ** him too.
As far as feeling about that awkwardness.
But like Bobby said,
you can't really pound your chest when you
haven't done it and he's been close and he
hasn't had great quarterbacks throughout.
Actually,
the one year he probably was hoping that
there were no fans in the stands was,
I think that 2018 team with Shea Patterson,
Urban Swansong.
If there were no fans,
maybe he gets that done,
but he doesn't have much to stand.
Let me tear up the football guy here Bobby.
Is he an elite coach?
Because you look at what he didn't stand for,
people getting a lot of credit
took the Niners Super Bowl.
But when you just close your
eyes and listen to the resumes,
he's Brady Hoke with a bigger name.
I mean, do you think this
guy is a top level coach?
These are top level performances,
but did he make injury luck that good or was
Andrew Luck is going to be that good right?
He inherited one of the most talented
rosters and all of the NFL when he was
in San Francisco and I've gone back
and looked at this because I've seen
him have quarterback threw quarterback
threw quarterback top prospects.
Guys come through transfers
and Shay Patterson.
They just haven't been able to
become those elite guys.
Conversely, you look at Ohio State's done.
They're great college quarterback
and JT Barrett and then all of a
sudden you get NFL guys stacked.
On top of each other with Haskins fields
and now shroud like who's the better
coach of developing quarterbacks?
Who's doing it at a higher level
and you have to argue now,
even Ryan Day,
the guy who's in his first time as a
head coach seems to be doing a better job.
Alright guys, the big game
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