IT,
IT, LAST
IT, LAST WEEK AT THIS TIME WE COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING THROUGH
THAT SMOKE.
THAT SMOKE. >>> TONIGHT HERE ON KING 5 THE
SECOND EPISODE OF OUR NEW
SERIES, FACING RACE.
IT WILL AIR JUST AFTER THE
FIFTH QUARTER AND SUNDAY NIGHT
FOOTBALL.
FOOTBALL.
FOOTBALL. I WOULD NEW SERIES IS ALL ABOUT
RACE, AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT
ARE DIFFICULT TO HAVE ABOUT THE
TOPIC THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.
A STORY ON CANCEL CULTURE, WILL
AIR TONIGHT, AND WE SPOKE WITH
TWO WOMEN WHO WERE CANCELED ON
SOCIAL MEDIA, AND LABELED AS
RACIST.
RACIST.
RACIST. KIRA, FIRST OF ALL WHEN YOU
EXPLAIN WHAT CANCEL CULTURE IS
ALL ABOUT?
ALL ABOUT? >> Reporter: A LOT OF YOU
PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE SEEN
CANCEL CULTURE ON SOCIAL MEDIA,
IT IS A GROWING MOVEMENT, IT IS
VERY POPULAR, IT IS THIS METHOD
WHERE PEOPLE ARE POSTING PEOPLE
WHETHER IT BE A VIDEO OR A
FACEBOOK POST, THEY ARE SHARING
THAT POST.
THAT POST. THERE POSTING THAT AND CALLING
PEOPLE OUT FOR THIS MOMENT OF
RACIST BEHAVIOR OR HOMOPHOBIA,
AND THEY'RE PUTTING THEM ON
BLAST.
BLAST.
BLAST. PEOPLE ARE EITHER SENDING
HATEFUL MESSAGES OR VOICING HOW
THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT POST OR
VIDEO.
VIDEO.
VIDEO. AND THEN THAT SORT OF CANCELING
THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR
CANCELING THEM IN SOCIETY.
REALLY.
REALLY.
REALLY. >> WHAT DOES THAT DO TO
SOMEONE?
SOMEONE?
SOMEONE? WHAT DOES CANCELING CULTURE DUE
TO PEOPLE?
TO PEOPLE? >> Reporter: THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT WE DID EXPLORE IN THE
STORY, SOME PEOPLE ARE KIND OF
REACTING TO IT IN DIFFERENT
WAYS, BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT
WHAT THE TWO WOMEN WE TALKED
TO, IT REALLY SHUT THEM DOWN.
AFTER BEING CANCEL, THEY DON'T
WANT TO TALK ABOUT RACE
ANYMORE, THEY ALREADY POSTED
SOMETHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH
RACE AND PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE
WITH A POSTER, THEY GOT
REACTIONS THAT WEREN'T
FAVORABLE, TOWARDS THEM.
SO IT REALLY JUST SHUTS PEOPLE
DOWN FROM BEING ABLE TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE.
>> THAT SOUNDS
COUNTERINTUITIVE, SO WHAT IS
HELPFUL IN EFFECTIVE AND
EDUCATING OTHERS AND TALKING
ABOUT RACISM, AND MAYBE TELLING
PEOPLE THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE
NOT OKAY, THEY WILL BE
TOLERATED.
TOLERATED. >> Reporter: YEAH, SO WE TALKED
TO OUR EXPERT AT THIS, WE
TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS HELPFUL
AND SOMETHING THAT SHE HAS
EXPLORED, SHE TALKS TO GROUPS
ABOUT RACE ALL THE TIME.
SOMETHING SHE EXPLORES IS
SOMETHING CALLED CALLING
INVERSES CALLING OUT, CALLING
OUT IS OBVIOUSLY THAT WHOLE
THING WHERE YOU'RE POSTING
SOMEONE ONLINE AND YOU'RE
PUBLICLY SHAMING THEM, YOU ARE
CALLING THEM OUT.
CALLING SOMEONE IN IS PULLING
SOMEONE INTO THE CONVERSATION
SO IT IS A LITTLE MORE
PRODUCTIVE.
PRODUCTIVE. TALKING ABOUT IT RATHER THAN
JUST BLASTING YOU ON SOCIAL
MEDIA.
MEDIA.
MEDIA. >>
MEDIA. >> IS THERE ANYTHING COME OUT
THAT WHILE YOU WERE GATHERING
THE INTERVIEW, GATHERING
INFORMATION, THAT SURPRISE YOU?
THAT YOU WEREN'T EXPECTING?
>> Reporter: OH YEAH,
DEFINITELY, FOR SURE.
I WASN'T SURE IF THESE TWO
WOMEN THAT I SPOKE TO, I DIDN'T
KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WOULD OPEN
UP TO ME.
UP TO ME.
UP TO ME. SO I DID END UP ASKING THEM
BOTH A LOT OF QUESTIONS, ONE OF
THE WOMEN I TALKED TO RESPONDED
IN A WAY THAT I DID NOT EXPECT
WHEN I ASKED HER THIS QUESTION,
SO LET'S LISTEN HERE.
>> Reporter: DO YOU BELIEVE IN
OUR SOCIETY, THAT RACISM IS A
PROBLEM?
PROBLEM?
PROBLEM? >> NOT FOR ME.
BUT, NO.
BUT, NO.
BUT, NO. I GUESS PEOPLE ARE PICKETING
WITH BLACK LIVES MATTER.
>> Reporter: WHEN I HEARD THAT,
AND SHE SAID NO BECAUSE PEOPLE
ARE PICKETING BLACK LIVES
MATTER, THAT WAS HER RESPONSE
TO DO YOU THINK RACISM IS A
PROBLEM IN OUR SOCIETY.
IN THAT MOMENT, I REALIZED SHE
DOESN'T REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE BLACK
LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT, IT IS
ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, IT IS
ALL OVER THE TV, WE HAVE BEEN
COVERING IT AS WELL.
SO I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED,
SUCH A HUGE TOPIC AND ISSUE,
THAT SHE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW
MUCH ABOUT THAT.
WHEN IT COMES BACK TO HER POST
AND WHAT SHE POSTER, SHE DIDN'T
REALLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY
PEOPLE WERE SO UPSET.
BY THAT POST.
>> YOU KNOW, KIRA, CAN I ASK
YOU THIS IS A JOURNALIST, AND
FEEL FREE TO DECLINE THE
QUESTION OR NOT.
HOW DOES IT FEEL, WHEN YOU ASK
A QUESTION LIKE THAT, YOU'RE
SITTING THERE, YOU HAVE
OBVIOUSLY BEEN VERY AFFECTED BY
SO MUCH IN THIS MOVEMENT, HOW
DID IT FEEL?
TO HEAR THAT?
>> Reporter: HONESTLY, IN
HEARING THAT, IT JUST TELLS ME
THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH
THIS SERIES IS VERY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO SHINE
A LIGHT ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN
OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T REALLY
KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT, SOME PEOPLE
WANT TO LEARN MORE, SOME PEOPLE
DON'T WANT TO LEARN MORE THAT
THIS IS SOMETHING PEOPLE WILL
SEE AND I HOPE THEY WATCH IT
WITH AN OPEN MIND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH KIRA AND
REALLY TRULY, THIS IS THE TYPE
OF SHOW YOU CAN WATCH AND GET
ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE
YOU ARE AFRAID TO ASK, MAYBE
YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE TALKING
ABOUT THIS, IT IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AT HOME IN
THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOME,
AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS
BASICALLY GIVEN TO YOU.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, FACING RACE
AIRS