>>> I AM NOT GUILTY.
I AM SAYING THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
THIS IS NOT JUST A BLACK THING
THIS IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN IMPRISONED WRONGFULLY
REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR OR
CREED.
BECAUSE I MET THEM IN THERE.
OKAY, BILL COSBY VICTIMIZED MANY
PLAYING THE VICTIM NOW, THATS
QUITE RICH.
AFTER ADMITTING TO GIVING WOMEN
QUAALUDE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
HAVING SEX WITH THEM, THE
DISGRACED MAN WALKED OUT OF
PRISON A FREE MAN THIS WEEK
AFTER THE PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME
COURT TOSSED HIS SEXUAL ASSAULT
CONVICTION.
COSBY INSISTED IT WAS CONSENSUAL
BUT THE PENNSYLVANIA JUSTICES
RULED HIS RIGHTS TO DUE PROCESS
WAS VIOLATED IN A PREVIOUS CASE
WAS USED TO PROSECUTE HIM IN SUB
SUBSEQUENT CHARGES.
WHILE SOME IN THE BLACK
COMMUNITY ARE CONGRATULATING
HIM, WHATS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS?
THEY SHOULD REMEMBER HOW EAGER
HE WAS TO CRITICIZE THEM IN THE
PAST.
JOINING ME NOW TO DISCUSS,
CHRISTINA
CHRISTINA GRIER, WE FINALLY GOT
HER ON THE SHOW.
AND OUR JASON JOHNSON, FINALLY
ONSET WITH ME.
ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS, THIS IS
QUITE A STRANGE CASE TO ME.
I WILL START WITH YOU CHRISTINA,
WHATS UP WITH PEOPLE
CONGRATULATING BILL COSBY BEING
FREE.
HE ADMITS GIVING QUAALUDE TO
WOMEN FOR THE PURPOSES OF HAVING
SEX WITH HIM.
>> HES FREE BECAUSE OF A
TECHNICALITY.
HES NOT FREE BECAUSE HES
INNOCENT.
THIS IS WHERE WE START TO SEE
CLASS TRUMP.
NOW BILL COSBY LIKE TO SAY I AM
LIKE SO MANY VICTIMS WHO ARE
INCARCERATED.
BILL COSBY IS NOT ONE OF THOSE
INDIVIDUALS.
FOR THOSE BLACK FOLKS THAT I
HAVE TALKED TO WHO ARE ON
DEFENSE AND THEY THINK IS A
WITCH HUNT, LETS JUST SAY OF
THE 60 WOMEN TECHNICALLY WHO
HAVE NOT COME FORWARD THAT BILL
COSBY DRUGGED AND RAPED THEM,
LETS SAY ARGUMENT SAKE THAT 90%
WERE LYING.
THAT STILL LEAVES SIX WOMEN WHO
WERE ABUSED AND WE KNOW 90% WERE
NOT LYING.
SO THIS IS SADLY, WE HAVE NOT
HAD A REAL CONVERSATION WITHIN
THE BLACK COMMUNITY BECAUSE BILL
COSBY WAS AMERICAS DAD.
HE WAS DEFINITELY FOR A LOT
INDIVIDUALS THEIR FATHER.
HE WAS THE ONE INTRODUCING THEM
TO DIFFERENT WORLD.
ALL THE THINGS, RIGHT? THE FACT THAT HES DR. COSBY AND
THE FACT THAT HES DR. COSBY AND
SETTING THAT UP AND HE CHOOSED T
BE -- BELIEVING WHAT THE COURT
SYSTEM HAD SHOWN AND WHAT HE
ADMITTED TO PUTTING US IN A
SITUATION THAT WE ARE EXPLAINING
TO PEOPLE SOME OF THE ATROCITY
HE COMMITTED OVER THE COURSE OF
30 OR 40 YEARS.
>> RIGHT, THATS WHY I WANTED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
I DIDNT WANT TO FOCUS ON THE
LEGAL MANUKAINIU
LEGALITY
LEGALITY.
THE EINFORMATION BAFFLES ME.
I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO THE
SPEECH HE GAVE IN 2004, TAKE A
LISTEN AND I WILL GET YOUR
REACTION ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> THESE ARE PEOPLE GOING AROUND
STEALING COCA-COLA AND PEOPLE
GETTING SHOT IN THE BACK OF THE
HEAD OVER A PIECE OF POUND CAKE.
THEN WE ALL RUN OUT AND WE ARE
OUTRAGED.
THE COPS SHOULD NOT HAVE SHOT
HIM.
WHAT THE HELL WAS HE DOING WITH
A POUND CAKE IN HIS HAND?
>> THIS BAFFLES ME.
SNOOP AND ALL THESE OTHER
RAPPERS COMING OUT TO HIS
DEFENSE.
>> I DIDNT REALIZE COCA-COLA
AND POUND CAKE WAS A DEATH
SENTENCE.
WE HAVE ALL BEEN HAVING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS FOR
YEARS.
BILL COSBY AINT OUR DAD.
NOT ONE THAT ANY ONE OF US WILL
BE HAPPY WITH OR RESPECTED AT
THIS PARTICULAR POINT.
HIS HOSTILITY TOWARDS BLACK
PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF
PEOPLE BACKING AWAY FROM THIS
GUY A LONG TIME AGO. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT
THERE THAT ARE SO DISTRUST FULLF
THE SYSTEM.
I I REMEMBER OJ.
THERE WERE PEOPLE CHEERING.
YO, THIS GUY USED TO BEAT HIS
WIFE, WHY IS EVERYONE EXCITED JUST BECAUSE HE BEAT THE SYSTEM?
JUST BECAUSE HE BEAT THE SYSTEM?
6
>> OJ TOO WAS NOT DOWN TO BLACK
PEOPLE.
CHRISTIE, I WILL TURN BACK TO
YOU, IT IS HARD TO SEPARATE DR.
HUGGABLE FROM THE SERIAL RAPIST
BILL COSBY.
IT IS ALMOST LIKE HE CREATED THE
INTENTION LIKE TO SANITIZE HIM.
I AM CURIOUS, SHOULD WE STILL BE
WATCHING "THE COSBY SHOW" IN A
DIFFERENT WORLD.
I WILL WATCH IT FOREVER.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE CULTURE
AND I CAN SEPARATE THE ART FROM
THE ARTIST BUT IN ALL THE GROUP
CHATS, THATS WHAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR HIS LEGACY
IN TERMS OF THE TV SHOW?
>> I AM TORN ON THAT ONE.
"THE COSBY SHOW" AND THE
DIFFERENT WORLD.
I INCLUDE LITTLE BILL AND FAT
ALBERT INTRODUCED TO A LOT OF
PEOPLE.
IS IT MY REALITY?
A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT TO HBCU
BECAUSE OF "THE COSBY SHOW."
IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE I DONT
LISTEN TO R. KELLYS MUSIC BUT I
STILL LISTEN TO A DIFFERENT
WORLD.
WE ARE IN THIS MOMENT WHERE WE
ARE TRYING TO DETANGLE WHAT HAS
BEEN DONE ALLEGEDLY BY SOME OF
THESE MEN AND GOING BACK TO THE
POINT THAT JASON MADE, THIS
POLITICS AND RESPECTABILITY IS
SO INSIDIOUS IN THE BLACK
COMMUNITY AS WELL THAT WE HAVE
PEOPLE CHEERING ON BILL COSBY.
>> RIGHT.
AND LOOK WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT
FELICIA RASHARDS TWEET THAT WAS
SUCH A DISAPPOINTMENT TO ME.
I LOVE HER AS A PERFORMER AND
WHEN I SAW THAT I WAS
HEARTBROKEN
HEARTBROKEN.
SHE TWEETED THIS OUT ON HER
FIRST DAY AT HOWARD UNIVERSITY
AS DEAN OF THE FINE ARTS
DEPARTMENT WHICH CAST A DARK
SHADOW OVER THAT WONDERFUL
EXPERIENCE, SHE BASICALLY
SUPPORTED THAT HE WAS IN JAIL IN
THE FIRST PLACE.
HOWARD WAS LIKE CLEAN UP ON ISLE
SIX, WE NEED TO COME OUT AND
ADJUST THIS.
>> ON A SCALE OF BAD FUMBLING.
THIS IS REALLY BAD.
A HUGE MISTAKE.
AND THE REACTION TIFFANY, WE
TALK ABOUT POLITICS BUT ALSO
THIS IS GENERATIONAL.
OKAY, YOUR CURRENT HBCU
STUDENTS, YOU KNOW WHO THEIR DAD
WAS?
DRAY FROM "BLACKISH."
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE STANDING
FOR HIM ARE IN THEIR LATE 30s OR
40s OR EVEN PEOPLE OUR PARENTS
AGE.
HOW WOULD HER RESPONSE MAKE
SENSE?
SHUTTING UP IS ALWAYS FREE.
THE LARGER ISSUE IS WE HAVE TO
SEPARATE THESE ACTORS FROM WHO
THEY ARE.
I CAN STILL WATCH "THE COSBY
SHOW."
I WOULD SAY BILL COSBY DID
HORRIBLE THINGS THAT I DONT
RESPECT AND APPRECIATE.
THE
WE GOT TO SEPARATE THE WORK FROM
THE WORKER.
>> YES.
>> I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I DONT WANT TO GET LOST IN THIS
CONVERSATION ARE THE VICTIMS.
THE VICTIMS SUFFERED
TREMENDOUSLY AND SO I KNOW
FELICIA RESHAD SAID SHE STANDS
WITH THE VICTIMS.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THOSE
WHO SPOKE UP.
KEEP SPEAKING UP AND TELL YOUR