>>> STEPHEN MILLER SOLIDIFYING
HIS REPUTATION AS AN
ANTI-IMMIGRANT LIGHTNING ROD,
ATTACKING JOE BIDENS INITIAL
PLAN TO MAINTAIN PRESIDENT
TRUMPS CAP ON REFUGEES ALLOWED
INTO THE U.S.
MILLERS FORMER BOSS WAS OKAY
WITH 15,000 REFUGEES PER YEAR.
MILLER SAYS THE NUMBER SHOULD BE
ZERO, WHICH MAKES NO SENSE.
A SHOCK TO NO ONE, BUT ITS A
TELL ABOUT THE NARRATIVE STILL
MAKING ROUNDS AMONG REPUBLICANS.
WHETHER THIS WEEKENDS BACKLASH
FORCES HER TO DROP THE PLANS,
GEORGIA CONGRESSWOMAN MARGORIE
TAYLOR GREENE AND OTHERS HAVE
BEEN TOYING WITH THE IDEA OF
CREATING AN AMERICA FIRST CAUCUS
IN THE HOUSE AND LIMIT
IMMIGRATION TO ONLY THOSE WHO
CAN CONTRIBUTE ECONOMICTY AND
DEMONSTRATE A RESPECT FOR
AMERICAN CULTURE AND RULE OF
LAW.
JOINING ME NOW, THE AUTHOR OF
"HATEMONGER, STEPHEN MILLER,
DONALD TRUMP AND THE WHITE
NATIONALIST AGENDA."
JEAN, I WANT TO PLAY SOME SOUND
OF GEORGE W. BUSH ON CBS THIS
MORNING, TALKING ABOUT HIS
REGRETS OVER IMMIGRATION.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> ITS BEEN 15 YEARS.
>> I KNOW IT.
>> STILL NOTHINGS BEEN DONE.
>> A LOT OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
ALL THAT MEANS IS CONGRESS ISNT
DOING ITS JOBS.
>> IS IT ONE OF THE BIGGEST
DISAPPOINTMENTS OF YOUR
PRESIDENCY?
>> YES, IT REALLY IS.
I CAMPAIGNED ON IMMIGRATION
REFORM, I MADE IT CLEAR TO THE
VOTERS THIS IS SOMETHING I
INTENDED TO DO.
>> SO JEAN, NOT A LOT OF
SURPRISES HERE.
HE HAS ADMITTED AS MUCH BEFORE.
BUT WHAT I WAS STRUCK BY IS HOW
THE WHITE SUPREMACIST INFLUENCE
ON THIS DEBATE HAS GONE FROM
COVERT TO EXTREMELY OVERT.
HOW MUCH IS THE REPUBLICAN
PLATFORM ON IMMIGRATION CHANGE
SINCE BUSH LEFT OFFICE?
>> VERY MUCH SO.
AND THE MARGEORIE TAYLOR GREENE
AMERICA FIRST CAUCUS IS AN
EXAMPLE OF THAT.
THIS IS HOW THE LAUNDERING OF
WHITE SUPREMACY INTO THE MAIN
STREAM WORKS.
THEY HAD TO BACKTRACK BECAUSE OF
THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS
A LITTLE TOO OVERT AND OBVIOUS
OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS UNDER
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY REALIZED IN
ORDER TO MAIN STREAM WHITE
SUPREMACY, YOU HAVE TO DO IT
THROUGH DOG WHISTLES AND
SPOON-FEED IT THROUGH HYSTERIA
AROUND IMMIGRATION, PAINTING
IMMIGRATION AS, YOU KNOW, AN
EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE UNITED
STATES, WHEN, IN FACT, WERE
FACING UNPRECEDENTED POPULATION
STAGNATION AND IMMIGRANTS COMMIT
CRIMES AT A MUCH LOWER RATE THAN
PEOPLE BORN IN THE UNITED
STATES.
SO THE FRAMING OF THE
IMMIGRATION DEBATE AS BEING, YOU
KNOW, AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO
THE UNITED STATES OR ABOUT
HOMELAND SECURITY HAS
CONTRIBUTED TO WHITE SUPREMACIST
VIEWS BECOMING MORE AND MORE
MAIN STREAM.
PEOPLE LIKE MARGORIE TAYLOR
GREENE TAKING THESE OFFENSIVE
STEPS AND JUST USING MORE
OVERTLY RACIST LANGUAGE.
>> YOU WROTE AN ENTIRE BOOK ON
STEPHEN MILLER.
MILLER JUST STARTED THIS NEW
GROUP "AMERICA FIRST LEGAL."
THE GOAL IS TO SUE THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION FOR WHAT IT DEEMS
"UNLAWFUL ACTIONS."
JEAN, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU
KNOW ABOUT MILLERS PLANS, AND
WHAT THIS TELLS YOU ABOUT THE
DIRECTION MORE GENERALLY THAT
THEYRE GOING TO BE MOVING IN?
>> WELL, HES TRYING TO BRANCH
THIS GROUP AS THE CONSERVATIVE
ACLU.
IN THE SAME WAY THAT HE TRIES TO
BRAND HIMSELF AS A QUOTE UNQUOTE
CONSERVATIVE SOCIAL JUSTICE
WARRIOR, YOU KNOW, WITH A SMIRK
ON HIS FACE.
OBVIOUSLY, HIS GOALS HAVE
NOTHING TO DO WITH SOCIAL
JUSTICE OR CIVIL LIBERTIES, AND
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH
PUTTING AMERICA FIRST.
FOR STEPHEN MILLER, THIS HAS
ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT TRYING TO
REENGINEER DEMOGRAPHICS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIS POLICIES,
THEY WERE ABOUT STRANGLING LEGAL
ACCESS INTO THE UNITED STATES,
DISMANTLING THE ASYLUM SYSTEM,
SLASHING REFUGEE ADMISSIONS TO
RECORD LOWS, CHOKING ACCESS TO
GREEN CARDS, AND THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION OCCASIONALLY
TRIED TO SPIN THIS AS GOING
AFTER CRIMINALS AND CARTELS.
BUT WHO THEY WERE AFTER WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE OVERARCHING POLICY
WAS FAM SIS.ILYIESFAMILIES.
THIS IS WHAT HIS GROUP HAS BEEN
INTENDING TO DO.
THEYRE ALREADY SUPPORTING LAW
SUITS AGAINST THE BIDEN