VISIT TO POLAND.
I’M KATIE POLLOCK ALONG WITH
JOEY JONES, JACKIE DEANGELIS AND LEO TERRELL.
LEO TERRELL.
WELCOME TO "THE BIG SUNDAY SHOW"
SHOW".
>> WE BEGIN WITH A FOX NEWS
ALERT, PRESIDENT IS BACK AT THE
WHITE HOUSE.
THERE IS ABIDING WORLDWIDE WALK
BACK HAPPENING AFTER HE APPEARED
TO CALL FOR A REGIME CHANGE IN
RUSSIA.
THE WHITE HOUSE IS CLEANING THAT
UP AND MANY REMARKS FROM
OVERSEAS.
CHECK THAT OUT.
>> FOR GOD SAKE THIS MAN CANNOT
REMAIN IN POWER.
>> IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A STRATEGY
REGIME CHANGE IN RUSSIA OR
ANYWHERE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.
>> UKRAINE WILL HAVE A LOT OF
BACKBONE AND GUTS AND I’M SURE
YOU’RE OBSERVING IT AND YOU WILL
SEE WHEN YOU WERE THERE.
>> OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS WERE USED
IN UKRAINE, WITH THAT TRIGGER A
MILITARY RESPONSE FROM NATO?
>> IT WOULD TRIGGER A RESPONSE
IN KIND.
>> WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF USING
CHEMICAL WEAPONS UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> BIDENS APPROVAL HIT THE
LOWEST IN HIS PRESIDENCY
ACCORDING TO A NEW NBC NEWS POLL
ONLY 40% OF AMERICANS APPROVE OF
THE JOB I DIDN’T IS DOING AND A
WHOPPING 55% DISAPPROVE.
HERE WE ARE ON DAY TWO AFTER
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS SUPPOSED TO
BE HOW THE UNITED STATES IS NOT
THE AGGRESSOR ANTI-GAY VLADIMIR
PUTIN ONLINE THE REGIME CHANGE
AND NOW THE WHITE HOUSE IS NOT
JUST WALKING BACK IN AMERICA BUT
AROUND THE WORLD GIVEN THE HIGH
STAKES OF WHAT WAS SAID.
>> WHAT ARE THE MOST ANNOYING
THINGS THAT WE SAY IN NETWORK
TELEVISION, THE QUIET PART OUT
LOUD.
THEY SAY THAT ALL THE TIME,
USUALLY INSIDE THE BELTWAY WHERE
WE KNOW PEOPLE THINK SOMETHING
BUT THEY DON’T EVER SAVE SAY IT BLATANTLY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A CASE WHERE
BIDEN SAID THE QUIET PART OUT
LOUD.
THE REASON IT IS QUIET
STRATEGICALLY QUIET AND WE LOVE
TO SEE VLADIMIR PUTIN GONE BUT
WERE NOT TO SERVE IT UP ON A
SILVER PLATTER THE IDEA THAT
WERE TRYING TO GET HIM GONE I
TOOK THE SAME ISSUE WITH LINDSEY
GRAHAM ON BIPARTISAN.
THIS IS A DUMB THING TO SAY AND
WHAT WAS A DECENT SPEECH IS
SPEECH THAT HE WOULD GET FROM
ACCOLADES.
THERE’S A LOT OF HITS OF THE
LACK OF SUBSTANCE AND THE FACT
THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL YOU
WANT TO BUT IF YOUR ACTIONS BACK
IT UP IT DOESN’T MATTER.
WORD FOR WORD HE SAID SOMETHING
LIKE THAT AND IT TRUMPS ANY
OTHER CALL TO ACTION THAT HE
MIGHT’VE MADE DURING THE SPEECH.
KATIE: THE REST OF THE CONTEXT
OF THE SPEECH WERE NOT TOP OF
MIND WHEN IT CAME TO THE SUNDAY
SHOW THIS MORNING.
LET’S TAKE A LISTEN.
>> IN THE MOMENT THAT WAS A
PRINCIPAL HUMAN REACTION TO THE
STORIES THAT HE HAD HEARD THAT
DAY.
THE PRESIDENT IS A STRAIGHT
SHOOTER AND AT THE PENTAGON.
>> THE WHITE HOUSE HAS POINTED
OUT HAS NOT CHANGED.
>> IT IS UP TO THE RUSSIAN
PEOPLE TO DETERMINE WHO IS GOING
TO BE IN POWER IN THE KREMLIN.
KATIE: JACKIE, ARE DEMOCRATS
TRYING TO WALK THAT BACK IN
ADDITION TO THE WHITE HOUSE?
WILL THAT BE ENOUGH FOR
PRESIDENT PUTIN NOT TO THINK
THAT JOE BIDEN MEANT WHAT HE
SAID?
JACKIE: INTO PENTA YOU ASK.
IF YOU ASKED THE DEMOCRATS THEY
ARE SAYING THIS IS FINE IS
PERFECTLY OKAY TO GO UP THERE
AND MS. SPEICHER GIVEAWAY
STRATEGIES OR SAY THINGS THAT
YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
THE TRIP OVERALL ESSENTIALLY FOR
THE PRESIDENT WAS A FAIL AND
WHEN HE IS NOT UNSCRIPTED HE
MAKES LOADS OF MISTAKES.
WE WENT OVER THEM YESTERDAY AND
WE WILL GO OVER THEM TODAY AND
WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS DONE
WITH RESPECT TO APPROACH IN
GENERAL I GO BACK TO BEFORE THE
STARTING.
THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA WORK
ON DIPLOMACY AND THEY SAID THEY
WOULD DO THINGS TO PREVENT IT.
THEY WAITED ON SANCTIONS, THERE
WAS NO DIPLOMACY AND NO
CONVERSATION.
THE FACT THAT WERE IN A MONTH
INTO THE SOME BLOODSHED TO GET
PEOPLE TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT HERE
IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON THE
SUNDAY SHOW SITTING THERE AND
DEFENDING HIM AFTER HE MAKES A
STATEMENT.
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GET ON THE
SAME PAGE.
TO ME IT’S COMPLETELY
UNACCEPTABLE BUT NOT SURPRISING
FROM THIS PRESIDENT HE WAS
MAKING MISTAKES WAY BACK INTO
THE DEBATES BEFORE HE WAS
ELECTED THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE
VOTED FOR, NOW YOU HAVE IT.
YOU MENTIONED A NUMBER PEOPLE
DEFENDING THE PRESIDENT SOME
ADMITTING THIS MAY HAVE BEEN A
MISTAKE FROM THE PRESIDENT.
>> WHEN YOU’RE CALLING FOR A
REGIME CHANGE OUT OF ANY NUCLEAR
STATE, THAT IS A POLICY THAT YOU
MIGHT WANT TO THINK THROUGH
BEFORE YOU DO IT.
>> WHETHER OR NOT U.S. FOREIGN
POLICY WILL REFLECT THAT REMAINS
TO BE SEEN.
SOMETHING LIKE CALLING FOR
REGIME CHANGE OR ADJUSTING THE
NOTION OF REGIME CHANGE HAS A
LOT OF LANDLINE.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY HOW
THE PRESIDENT HAS REPEATEDLY
SAID HIS GOAL IS TO NOT GET US
INTO WORLD WAR III BUT HE MAY
STUMBLE INTO IT AS A RESULT OF
THE THINGS THAT HE DECIDES TO
STAY.
YOU ALSO HEARD FROM THE
PRESIDENT THAT WERE DEALING WITH
A NUCLEAR ARMED COUNTRY WHICH IS
WHY WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL
ABOUT WHAT THAT PERCEPTION MIGHT
BE AND HOW VLADIMIR PUTIN WOULD
TAKE THAT.
YET HERE WE ARE WITH THE
PRESIDENT SAYING THE REGIME
CHANGE ON A COUNTRY THAT HAS THE
LARGEST NUCLEAR ARSENAL IN THE
WORLD.
>> I’M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT
QUESTION.
BEING A HISTORY TEACHER YOU
LEARN FROM HISTORY WHEN LEADERS
HISTORICALLY MAKE FOOLISH
STATEMENTS AND LIKE WHAT YOU
HEARD FROM JOE BIDEN CALLING
ABOUT THE REGIME CHANGE, THAT
LEADS PEOPLE INTO WAR FOOLISH
STATEMENT, WE DON’T KNOW IF YOU
MADE THAT CONSCIOUSLY OR WAS A
SLIP OF THE TONGUE.
BIDEN DEALING WITH A MADMAN AND
PUTIN WHO IS ANGRY, NOT HAPPY
WITH THE WAY THE WORLD IS GOING
YOU’RE BACKING THEM UP AND
LOOKING FOR EXCUSES.
WHAT BETTER EXCUSE TO USE THE
WORDS OF JOE BIDEN TALKATIVE
ABOUT ELIMINATING HIM TO JUSTIFY
FURTHER ESCALATION THAN THE
WORK, HISTORY HAS TAUGHT US
DIPLOMACY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
YOU DO NOT MAKE A FOOLISH
STATEMENT LIKE THE ONE THAT JOE
BIDEN MAKES, HE DID AND NOW WE
HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL
THANK GOODNESS THE WHITE HOUSE
WALKED THAT STATEMENT BACK AND
HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL PUT
COUNTRIES FIRST INSTEAD OF PARTY
LOYALTY THAT WILL CRITICIZE
PRESIDENT BIDEN AND MAKE SURE
THE STATEMENT WILL BE OUT THERE
AGAIN AT LEAST OVERTLY.
>> MISTAKES ARE HIGH AND
PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID IF RUSSIA
WERE TO USE CHEMICAL WEAPONS AND
AS UNITED STATES.
SENATOR MARCO RUBIO TALKING
ABOUT HOW HE THINKS RUSSIA WILL
PERCEIVE WITH THEIR ATTACKS IN
UKRAINE.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> I THINK THE LIKELIEST THING
YOU WILL SEE FROM PUTIN IS
TRYING TO USE CHEMICAL OR
BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS FOR THAT
MATTER BUT DOING ANYWAY THAT
MAKES IT LOOK LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE
DID IT.
I DON’T THINK HE WOULD ADMIT
USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AND BLAME
THE ON UKRAINE OR NATO AND SAY
IT WAS THEM WHO DID IT.
KATIE: THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND
THE ADMINISTRATION IS MORNING
ABOUT RUSSIA DOING A FALSE FLAG
OPERATION AND USING CHEMICAL
WEAPONS.
WE KNOW CHEMICAL WEAPONS HAVE
BEEN USED IN SYRIA AND WHERE
RUSSIA HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS
NOW.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AS WE
PROCEED WITH THESE GAPS BEING
CLEANED UP AND WHAT IS THE
IMPRESSION THAT THE RUSSIANS
HAVE OF THE UNITED STATES AND
WHAT THEY MIGHT DO.
MORE IMPORTANT FOR ME LOOKING
BACK ON WHAT HAPPENED IN SYRIA
IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WHEN
JOE BIDEN WAS VICE PRESIDENT
AGGRESSION IS A TENDENCY TO CALL
BLUFF AND THEY DID SO UNDER THE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
IS THERE A DANGER OF THEM
CALLING THE BLUFF OF JOE BIDEN
AND HIM NOT RESPONDING IN THE
WAY THAT HE WOULD.
>> WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT IS
POSTURING INTO DEFENSIVE
STRATEGY AND IT’S A PART OF
EXERCISING IN CERTAIN PLACES IN
CERTAIN TIMES IS NOT JUST A SHOW
OF FORCE BUT ASSURE READINESS
AND JOE BIDEN FAILED THE SOUND
THAT.
I’M NOT JUST TRIED TO BEAT UP ON
JOE BIDEN I’LL BE HONEST WITH
YOU I DON’T TRUST AS THE
ADMINISTRATION TO GET INTO AND
BACK OUT OF A DIRECT CONFLICT
WITH RUSSIA AND WE HAVE NOT
SUPPORTED ESCALATING PLANES TO
SEND THEM TO THE UKRAINE THAT
WILL GIVE US IN DIRECT CONFLICT
I DON’T TRUST THE ADMINISTRATION
THE POLIS OUT RATHER NOT RUSSIA
USES CHEMICAL WEAPONS THAT
ANOTHER STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE.
THEY HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
WEAPONS THEY ARE USING WERE
BEING USED ON CIVILIANS AND
CHEMICAL WEAPONS PUT PUT IN A
BETTER SPOT BUT IS BACK INTO A
CORNER AND FEELS LIKE HE CAN’T
GET A WIN OUT OF THIS.
IT FEELS LIKE MACRON IS TRYING
TO GET THAT AND THIS WILL STOP
HOPEFULLY BECOMES THE END VERY
QUICKLY.
AS FAR AS JOE BIDEN GOES HE DOES
NOT HAVE IT TO GET INTO THIS AND
GET BACK OUT.
HE’S A MOST ARE THE RIGHT THING
FOR THE WRONG REASONS WHICH IS
BASICALLY SITTING AND NOT
PUBLICLY DOING MORE.
EFFECTIVE BIGGEST CONCERN WITH
HIM MAKING THESE GAS, PUTIN
CONSIDERED THE THOUSAND
PROTESTERS, THAT IS OPERATION BY
THE WEST, THEY PUT PEOPLE HERE
TO DO THAT AND WE NEED TO PUNISH
THEM.
THAT IS THE KIND OF AMMUNITION
YOU GET PUTIN WHEN YOU SAY