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say if you're a mormon uh yes sir
remember my family was a mormon growing
up to be honest i was raised in a mormon
church what do you mean born again
it's interesting give me something to
think about
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so lua tell me what do you think happens
when someone dies
well
to be honest i was raised in a mormon
church so we believe in the afterlife
and the three levels my family was a
mormon growing up lds
you're just growing up with it you know
it's always just kind of
pushed at ya see if you're a mormon oh
yes sir
so you haven't been born again
what do you mean born again yeah john
chapter 3 jesus said unless someone's
born again they're not going to enter
heaven he said marvel not that i say to
you you must be born again i'm not an
active mormon to tell you the truth but
uh
so what's that called what sort of
mormon are you called a jack mormon
because as you can see i'm at the park
watching my kids play basketball but uh
beer so they'd frown on that yeah they
would but oh well
i'll repent later tell me what a mormons
belief happens after someone dies
so our belief after someone dies is that
everyone goes to this place called the
spirit world and where souls go to those
who didn't receive the full gospel are
taught it so that everyone is able to
receive
salvation do you realize you've got a
huge problem that you should be trying
to solve do you know what it is no
you're going to die one day and you
don't know when it's coming everything
in you should be searching for truth
you know you love your life yeah i like
my life do you think you're that evil
that god should give you the death
sentence
no i don't think i'm evil
most of us don't that's because we make
the mistake of judging ourselves by man
standard rather than gods are you
familiar with the team commandments
yeah how many could you name
uh
not many how about the ninth you shall
not lie i've heard of that one have you
lied
i have a couple times
just a couple are you a good person i
absolutely am i'm going to give you a
standard to judge your morality by the
biblical standard the ten commandments
how many of the ten commandments can you
name i heard the uh oh
how many lies do you think you've told
in your life oh man
i think i played the fifth on that one
you have lied of course have you ever
stolen something
sure yeah so you're a lying thief
yeah let's go to the third commandment
you shall not take god's name in vain
have you ever used god's name in vain
said
say that every day
that's blasphemy do you realize that
it's not giving god's name to you honor
it's letting it roll off your tongue so
it's meaningless it's using it as a
substitute for a curse word to express
disgust very serious
i appreciate your patience with me this
is putting the heat on you but you're
handling it really well
jesus said if you look at a woman and
lust for her
you commit adultery with her in your
heart have you ever looked at a woman
with lust
just my wife
when's your last look at pornography
no i don't know at sex outside of
marriage no you're a virgin no i mean
i'm married to my wife did you have sex
before you're married yes we did that's
sex outside of marriage yeah all right
so
i'm not judging you but you've just told
me you're a lying thieving blasphemous
fornicating adulterer at heart and you
have to face god on judgment day sounds
about right yeah so if he judges you by
those 10 commandments you're going to be
innocent or guilty sounds like i'd be
pretty guilty so you've earned your
wages yeah so would you go to heaven or
hell
probably hell then so does that concern
you
um
well that's assuming that there is
is an afterlife which i
you know not 100 sure on that well you
can be you know why
they tell me jesus didn't lie the
scriptures don't lie it's appointed a
man wants to die and after this the
judgment and the bible incessantly talks
about an afterlife the resurrection of
the dead we're going to stand before god
lord i'm not trying to drive you to
mormonism because it's different from
what i'm saying
mormonism says you have to do things to
merit eternal life
it says we're saved by grace after all
you can do i believe um as i do my best
and repent of
my wrongdoings that
that i can i return to my father in
heaven as as clean as i can and it's
it's up to heavenly father and jesus
christ on whether the work i did here
was enough
wait how do you know if it's enough
i never know it's that's what's heavenly
father that's is that kind of scary it
is um
feels a little nerve-wracking to think
about it mormonism says you have to do
things to merit eternal life it's up to
heavenly father and jesus christ on
whether the work i did here was enough
now tell me what did god do for guilty
sinners so he wouldn't have to go to
hell do you know he died for him
suffered and died
took him on their sins blood from every
poor that kind of thing
he took upon himself the sin of the
world now most people know that
mormonism preaches it so does
christianity and catholicism but this
may be the game changer for you if you
can just hang on to what i'm saying and
get a grip of it the ten commandments
are called the moral law
you and i broke the law jesus paid the
fine
do you remember his last words on the
cross
uh
uh father ju
forgive them for they know not what they
do or that's one of the seven last
sayings
just before he dismissed the spirit he
said it is finished do you know why he
said that because the plan was done the
work was done yeah the debt has been
paid we broke god's law jesus paid the
fine if you're in court someone pays you
fine
judge can let you go even though you're
guilty you can say there's a stack of
speeding fines here but someone's paid
them
you can leave and he can do that which
is legal and god can legally let you
live forever
he can grant you forgiveness of sins on
the basis that christ died for our sins
rose again on the third day
he'll impute righteousness to you in a
second
because of what jesus did
that's what the bible says god commanded
his love toward us and while yet sinners
christ died for us now i know what we've
talked about hasn't been comfortable for
you but i really appreciate you
listening if a patient sits and listens
to a doctor talk about a terminal
disease that's not pleasant but if he
has a cure
then it becomes pleasant when he
realizes a cure to his dilemma
and jesus is the cure to the dilemma
that you have of death you could leave
here and die
death could seize upon you 54 million
people die every year 54 million a lot
young people just aneurism heart attack
thought they were healthy but he just
died while playing volleyball so what do
you think about what we talked about
today
uh
i feel like uh
started off fun and then came heavy on
me it's been as uncomfortable for me as
for you i can tell by your body language
you weren't enjoying what i was saying
but i love you enough to tell you the
truth i care about you can't see that
now but i do really care i love you and
even though i've just met you and i want
to tell you the truth and i want to tell
you how you can find everlasting life so
do you think about what we talked about
yeah i will
seth i'd encourage you to get before the
lord and put your trust entirely in
jesus it's not after all you can do it's
a free gift of god you can't earn a gift
it's like saying to someone who gives
you a car they give you a brand new
mercedes you say oh that's great i
appreciate this gift here's 10 cents
if they take your 10 cents it's not a
gift it's an exchange you've purchased
you've got a good deal
so salvation can't be purchased by
anything we do it's a free gift of god
and when you truly put your faith in
jesus alone for your salvation you'll be
born again god will give you a new heart
with new desires so you love that which
is right and pure and just
i want you to think seriously about this
and what i'm trying to do is not drive
you back to mormonism because that's
different from what i'm saying biblical
christianity says that we're saved
by grace through faith it's entirely a
gift of god it's not
by grace after all you can do as
mormonism says biblical christianity
says there's nothing i can do to save
myself it's a complete free gift of god
because of what jesus did on the cross
he purchased everlasting life you can't
do anything to save yourself it's all
god's amazing grace that saves us he
didn't die because the romans took him
and crucified him because the jews
pushed for it he died because he was
god's sacrifice
he was the lamb of god that suffered and
died for the sin of the world once and
for all so when i repent and trust in
him
god imputes righteousness to me he makes
me righteous he makes me clean so i'd
have to earn god's favor it's a free
gift it comes by god's amazing grace
and i appreciate you listening to me
very gracious and uh what do you think
about what we talked about
uh i thought it was interesting
it was interesting give me something to
think about thank you for your time i
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random act of just enlightening me on
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