CON JOB. >> "ALL IN" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
GOOD EVENING FROM NEW YORK.
I’M CHRIS HAYES.
TONIGHT, AFTER A THIRD WOMAN
JUST CAME FORWARD WITH EXPLOSIVE
NEW SEXUAL MISCONDUCT
ALLEGATIONS AGAINST BRETT
KAVANAUGH, SOMEHOW REPUBLICANS
ARE STILL, AS OF THIS HOUR,
PLANNING TO HOLD A HEARING
TOMORROW.
TOMORROW. AND THEN VOTE TO GIVE KAVANAUGH
A LIFETIME APPOINTMENT TO THE
U.S. SUPREME COURT.
THE CLAIMS BY JULIE SWETNICK
OUTLINED IN A SWORN AFFIDAVIT BY
HER LAWYER MICHAEL AVENATTI
HARROWING.
HARROWING. THE DETAILS ARE GRAPHIC AND SOME
MAY FIND THEM DISTURBING.
KAVANAUGH, WE SHOULD SAY, DENIES
SWETNICK’S ACCOUNT AND DENIES
KNOWING HER.
KNOWING HER. NOW 14 HOURS BEFORE THE
TESTIMONY OF KAVANAUGH AND
CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, THE FIRST
WOMAN TO PUBLICLY ACCUSE HIM OF
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, DEMOCRATS ON
THE COMMITTEE ARE CALLING FOR
KAVANAUGH’S NOMINATION TO BE
WITHDRAWN.
WITHDRAWN. IN A RUMBLING PRESS CONFERENCE
THIS EVENING THE PRESIDENT,
WHILE PROFESSING TO BEING
RECEPTIVE TO BLASEY FORD’S
TESTIMONY TOMORROW, VOICED HIS
STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE NOMINEE.
>> I’M GOING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS
TOMORROW.
TOMORROW. I’M GOING TO BE WATCHING.
YOU KNOW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
I’M GOING TO SEE WHAT’S SAID.
IT’S POSSIBLE THAT THEY WILL BE
CONVINCING.
CONVINCING. WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID,
JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH HAS BEEN,
FOR MANY YEARS, ONE OF THE MOST
RESPECTED PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON KNOWS HIM --
A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW HIM WELL,
AND THOSE PEOPLE DON’T BELIEVE
WHAT’S GOING ON.
>> THE PRESIDENT ALSO REFERRING
MULTIPLE TIMES TO THE
ACCUSATIONS AS A CON JOB.
MICHAEL AVENATTI’S CLIENT JULIE
SWETNICK CLAIMS TO HAVE ATTENDED
MULTIPLE PARTIES IN THE 1980s
WITH KAVANAUGH AND HIS FRIEND
MARK JUDGE WHO IS SAID TO HAVE
WITNESSED KAVANAUGH’S ALLEGED
ASSAULT OF CHRISTINE BLASEY
FORD.
FORD. SHE ALLEGES IN HER SWORN
STATEMENT, THAT SHE OBSERVED
KAVANAUGH ENGAGE IN ABUSIVE --
PRESSING GIRLS TO HIM WITHOUT
CONSENT, GRINDING AGAINST GIRLS
AND ATTEMPTING TO MOVE OR SHIFT
GIRL’S CLOTHING TO EXPOSE
PRIVATE BODY PARTS.
BRETT KAVANAUGH AND OTHERS WOULD
SPIKE THE PUNCH AT HOUSE PARTIES
SHE ATTENDED SO AS TO CAUSE
GIRLS TO LOSE INHIBITIONS AND
THEIR ABILITY TO SAY NO.
ACCORDING TO SWETNICK SHE
WITNESSED EFFORTS BY KAVANAUGH
AND OTHERS TO CAUSE GIRLS TO
BECOME INEBRIATED AND
DISORIENTED SO THEY COULD BE
GANG RAPED IN A SIDE ROOM OR
BEDROOM BY A TRAIN OF NUMEROUS
BOYS.
BOYS. SHE HAS A FIRM RECOLLECTION OF
SEEING BOYS LINED UP OUTSIDE
ROOMS AT MANY OF THESE PARTIES
WAITING FOR THEIR TURN WITH A
GIRL INSIDE THE ROOM.
THE BOYS INCLUDED MARK JUDGE AND
BRETT KAVANAUGH.
BRETT KAVANAUGH. FINALLY, SWETNICK SAYS THAT IN
APPROXIMATELY 1982 SHE BECAME
THE VICTIM OF ONE OF THESE GANG
TRAIN RAPES WHERE JUDGE AND
KAVANAUGH WERE PRESENT.
WE SHOULD BE CLEAR, SHE DOES NOT
ALLEGE THAT KAVANAUGH
PARTICIPATED IN HER SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
ASSAULT. AND NONE OF HER CLAIMS HAVE BEEN
INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED BY NBC
NEWS.
NEWS. KAVANAUGH AND JUDGE AGAIN BOTH
DENY THE ALLEGATIONS.
KAVANAUGH SAYING IN A STATEMENT
THIS IS RIDICULOUS AND FROM THE
TWILIGHT ZONE I DON’T KNOW WHO
THIS IS AND THIS NEVER HAPPENED.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT TOMORROW’S
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
HEARING IS ONE OF THE IS THAT
RIGHTS ON THAT COMMITTEE,
DEMOCRATIC SENATOR MAZIE HORONO
OF HAWAII.
OF HAWAII. SENATOR, FIRST OF ALL, IS THIS
HEARING GOING TO REALLY HAPPEN
TOMORROW?
TOMORROW? >> APPARENTLY SO.
SO THE REPUBLICANS DRIVE TO PUSH
THIS THROUGH NO MATTER WHAT.
WE HAVE THREE CREDIBLE REPORTS
OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT BY JUDGE
KAVANAUGH AND THEY DON’T WANT TO
HEAR ANY OF IT.
IN FACT, THEY WENT SO FAR AS TO
HIRE A PROSECUTOR FOR ONE DAY, A
FEMALE PROSECUTOR, SO THAT THE
SENATE, THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS
ON THE COMMITTEE CAN HIDE BEHIND
HER SKIRT, LITERALLY, AND THEY
DON’T HAVE TO REVEAL THEMSELVES
TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
THAT IS HOW FAR THEY’RE GOING.
IT IS TOTALLY APPALLING.
I HAVE ALREADY CALLED ON THE
PRESIDENT, ALONG WITH THE REST
OF THE DEMOCRATS ON THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO HAVE THE
PRESIDENT WITHDRAW THIS
NOMINATION.
NOMINATION. >> THERE ARE -- THERE IS
TESTIMONY OR TRANSCRIPTS
RELEASED RECENTLY OF JUDGE
KAVANAUGH’S INTERVIEW WITH
COUNSEL FROM THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE ASKING HIM ABOUT A
NUMBER OF ALLEGATIONS.
THERE ARE TWO MORE ANONYMOUS
ALLEGATIONS INCLUDED THERE.
THERE’S REPORTING TONIGHT ABOUT
A FOURTH ALLEGATION, CONTAINED
IN AN ANONYMOUS LETTER, AN
ANONYMOUS LETTER, WE SHOULD BE
CLEAR, NBC NEWS REPORTING THAT,
HE IS ASKED IN THE ANONYMOUS
LETTER IN 1988 HE PUSHED A WOMAN
UP AGAINST A WALL, WAS SEXUALLY
AGGRESSIVE WITH HER AS HE PUSHED
HER AGAINST THE WALL.
HE IS ASKED ABOUT THAT IN THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TRANSCRIPT
AND HE DENIES IT.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> HE DENIES EVERYTHING, AND
THIS IS WHY YET ANOTHER REASON
THAT AT THE MINIMUM AN FBI
INVESTIGATION SHOULD OCCUR.
SO EVERYONE SHOULD WONDER WHY IS
IT THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE
WILLING TO HAVE THE FBI
INVESTIGATE ARE THE THREE
CREDIBLE REPORTS, BUT NOT HIM
AND NOT THE REPUBLICANS ON THE
COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE. WE SHOULD ASK WHY IS THAT
HAPPENING?
HAPPENING? AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS A JOB
INTERVIEW FOR JUDGE KAVANAUGH.
THIS IS NOT SOME RIGHT THAT HE
HAS TO GET ON THE SUPREME COURT.
SO IN A JOB INTERVIEW, ONE’S
CHARACTER CREDIBILITY AND CANDOR
ARE ON THE LINE.
AND BEFORE ALL OF THIS CAME TO
PASS, I ALREADY HAD SERIOUS
QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS CREDIBILITY
AND WAS NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR
HIM.
HIM. BUT IT IS JUST TOTALLY
APPALLING.
APPALLING. I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE IN
AMERICA ARE WATCHING HOW WE’RE
GOING TO DEAL WITH THESE
CREDIBLE REPORTS.
CREDIBLE REPORTS. AND WE’RE NOT DEALING WITH IT
VERY WELL.
VERY WELL. AND I THINK THE REPUBLICANS ARE
FOOLING THEMSELVES IF THEY CAN
HIRE A PERSON FOR ONE DAY TO
HIDE BEHIND BECAUSE THEY’RE TOO
AFRAID TO QUESTION DR. FORD
THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. I THINK IT’S JUST APPALLING.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT -- THERE
ARE THREE WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE ON
THE RECORD ACCUSATIONS AGAINST
KAVANAUGH, ONE IN HIGH SCHOOL,
OR TWO IN HIGH SCHOOL, ONE IN
COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. DO YOU BELIEVE MS. SWETNICK AND
MS. RAMIREZ, THE OTHER TWO,
ASIDE FROM DR. BLASEY FORD,
SHOULD BE GIVING SOME KIND OF
TESTIMONY OR SWORN INTERVIEW
WITH SOME INVESTIGATORS IN YOUR
COMMITTEE OR THE FBI?
>> OF COURSE THEY SHOULD SPEAK
TO THE FBI AND ALL THREE OF THEM
SAID THAT THEY WANT AN FBI
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. THEY WANT TO BE QUESTIONED BY
THE FBI.
THE FBI. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DON’T WANT
THIS ARE JUDGE KAVANAUGH AND THE
REPUBLICANS ON THE COMMITTEE.
SO IT’S VERY TELLING TO ME THAT
THEY’RE GOING TO PUSH FORWARD
WITH THIS NOMINATION, COME HELL
OR HIGH WATER, BECAUSE THEY NEED
HIM TO BE ON THAT COURT SO THAT
THERE WILL BE NO FOUR TO FOUR
TIES.
TIES. THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY
CONSERVATIVE GROUPS WITH LOTS OF
MONEY THAT WANT JUDGE KAVANAUGH
TO BE THEIR FIFTH VOTE ON THE
COURT.
COURT. SO THERE IS THIS HUGE RUSH TO
GET HIM ON THE COURT BEFORE
OCTOBER.
OCTOBER. BUT IT IS TOTALLY UNTOWARD.
AND HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO
COME FORWARD BEFORE THE
REPUBLICANS DON’T SAY ENOUGH?
APPARENTLY THREE AND PLUS ONE
ANONYMOUS VERY SPECIFIC KINDS OF
REPORTING, THAT’S NOT ENOUGH FOR
THE REPUBLICANS.
THE REPUBLICANS. I HOPE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
WHO ARE WATCHING, ALL OF US HAVE
HEARD FROM SO MANY PEOPLE WHO
HAVE SAID I NEVER TOLD MY STORY.
BUT THIS KIND OF EVENT, THIS
KIND OF TRAUMA HAPPENED TO ME
TOO.
TOO. THE WOMEN PARTICULARLY ALL
ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE WATCHING
AND THE ENLIGHTENED MEN, AS I
PUT IT, ARE ALSO WATCHING.
>> SENATOR MAZIE HIRONO IN