RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THEM IN SOME
ORTHODOXED JEWISH COMMUNITIES
FOR A CERTAIN SET OF
CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE’RE
ATTACKING THEM WHERE THEY.
BUT THIS WILL BE THE NEXT YEAR.
>> GOVERNOR CUOMO, THE BOOK IS
LEADERSHIP LESSONS DURING THIS
PANDEMIC.
AND I’M JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU
LEARNED IN TERMS OF THE ART OF
THE DEAL IN THE PANDEMIC AGE IN
TERMS OF WORKING WITH THIS WHITE
HOUSE.
BECAUSE IN THE BOOK YOU TALK
ABOUT MARK MEADOWS LINKING HOSPITAL FUNDING TO SHARING THE
HOSPITAL FUNDING TO SHARING THE
TEST RESULTS ON HOW HIGH
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE TREATED
COVID-19.
WHAT WAS THAT CONVERSATION LIKE?
>> I THINK, MIKA, WHAT WE’VE
LEARNED AND WE SEE IT OVER AND
OVER AND OVER, BECAUSE THIS IS
REALLY A ONE-TRICK PONY THIS
PRESIDENT AND A ONE-TRICK
ADMINISTRATION.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE HAS BEEN A
DENIAL OF THIS VIRUS SINCE DAY
ONE AND THIS RECENT
MANIFESTATION IS MORE OF THE
SAME.
AND THE ART OF THE DEAL IS
LEVERAGE, RIGHT?
THAT’S WHAT TRUMP WAS ABOUT.
HE’S A MARKETING MAN AND HE
LEVERAGES AS A NEGOTIATING
TACTIC.
HE SAYIS A MARKETING MAN WHO BEC
PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE PLAYED THE
DIVISION AND THE ALIENATION THAT
EXISTED IN AMERICA.
AND HE MADE IT WORSE.
HE DOESN’T CREATE ANYTHING, HE
READS THE MARKETPLACE AND HE
REACTS.
HE SAW THE POLARIZATION.
HE SAW THE DIVISION.
HE SAW THE ANGER AND HE PLAYED
TO IT, MARKETED IT, BECAME
PRESIDENT.
AND THEN THE ART OF THE DEAL,
HIS BOOK ON REAL ESTATE, IT’S
LEVERAGE.
THEY LEVERAGE EVERY SITUATION.
>> BUT WHAT DID MARK MEADOWS
SAY?
YOU’RE SAYING MARK MEADOWS
LINKED HOSPITAL FUNDING TO
SHARING TEST RESULTS ON
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE.
WAS THAT JUST TO GET THE
PRESIDENT’S, YOU KNOW, FAVORITE
DRUG WHICH HE NEVER TOOK WHEN HE
WAS SICK, BY THE WAY, ACCORDING
TO HIS DOCTORS?
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT
WHAT THAT CONVERSATION WAS LIKE?
>> YEAH, THIS WAS AT THE TIME OF
THE FIRST HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
SCAM.
THEY BELIEVED IN IT, THE FDA WAS
TEST IT, THE FDA WAS USING NEW
YORK HOSPITALS BECAUSE WHEN HE
SUCH A HIGH CASELOAD.
THEY WANTED THE RESULTS FROM THE
NEW YORK HOSPITALS QUICKLY.
THE NEW YORK HOSPITALS WERE IN
THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROTOCOL THAT
THEY WERE DOING THEIR TESTING
WITH THE FDA.
MR. MEADOWS EFFECTIVELY SAID, WE
WANT THE RESULTS, WE WANT THEM
FAST AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
GIVING OUT HOSPITAL FUNDING
PURSUANT TO THE C.A.R.E.S. ACT.
AND BASICALLY SAID WE’RE NOT
GOING TO SEND IT TO NEW YORK IF
WE DON’T GET THE TEST RESULTS.
BUT, THEY HAD DONE IT TO ME ON
EVERYTHING.
THEY DID IT TO ME WITH THE
TRUSTED TRAVELER PROGRAM WHERE
IT WAS PURE EXTORTION.
THEY WANTED THE LIST OF
UNDOCUMENTED DRIVER’S LICENSES
AND THEY PENALIZED THE STATE
BECAUSE OF IT.
WHEN I SAID NEW YORK STATE IS
GOING TO SET UP A COMMITTEE TO
TEST THE VACCINE, HE SAID, I’LL
PUT YOU AT THE END OF THE LIST.
IT’S LEVERAGE.
IT’S EXTORTION.
>> AND WHAT DEALS DID YOU --
WHAT DEALS DID YOU -- DID YOU
GIVE HIM THE TEST RESULTS?
WHAT DID THEY GET OUT OF THIS?
DID THEY EXTORT?
>> NO.
I SAID IN WORDS I DON’T WANT TO
REPEAT TO YOU WHAT I SAID TO MR.
MEADOWS, BUT I SAID THAT DOESN’T
WORK WITH ME IN NEW YORK.
THE FDA WILL GET THE TEST
RESULTS WHEN THEY GET THEM.
BY THE WAY, HAD THEY GOT THE
TEST RESULTS, THEY TOTALLY
DISPROVED THAT
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE WORKED.
I MEAN, IT WAS ONE OF THE
GREATEST CHARADES.
AND ONE OF THE DUMBEST CHARADES.
WHY WOULD THEY HAVE PUT SUCH
CAPITAL ON HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
UNLESS THEY KNEW IT WORKED?
AND THEN IT TURNED OUT TO BE A
TOTAL FAILURE.
SO, NO, IT’S NEVER WORKED.