CEASE-FIRE.
JOE, MIKA.
>> ALL RIGHT.
RICHARD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>> JOINING US NOW DEPUTY
SECRETARY OF STATE WENDY SHERMAN
RENT ALY RETURNED FROM A TRIP TO
EUROPE FOLLOWING RUSSIA'S
INVASION OF UKRAINE.
FIRST I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT
THE PEACE TALKS.
ARE WE CONCERNED THAT THEY ARE
REALLY JUST BIDING TIME SO THEY
CAN REFUEL, REGROUP, ASSAULT
AGAIN?
>> MIKA, JOE, THANK YOU FOR
HAVING MANY THE MORNING.
THAT WAS A POWERFUL PIECE FRIDAY
RICHARD ENGEL ABOUT THE CIVILIAN
DEATH.
WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS VLADIMIR
PUTIN'S TWICE WAR CARNAGE IS
CONTINUING.
THERE IS NO SIGN THAT HE HAS
PULLED BACK IN ANYWAY FROM THESE
INCREDIBLY DELIBERATE ATTACKS ON
CIVILIANS IN UKRAINE.
WE HOPE THAT EVERY NATION AROUND
THE WORLD WITH ANY SWAY THEY
HAVE IS TELLING VLADIMIR PUTIN
TO END THIS WAR OF CHOICE AND
GIVE THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE THEIR
FUTURE BACK.
IT IS A HORRIFYING SITUATION.
THIS MORNING, THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES WILL BE ON THE
PHONE WITH XI JINPING THE
PRESIDENT OF THE PEOPLE'S
REPUBLIC OF CHINA URGING HIM TO
USE HIS INFLUENCE WITH VLADIMIR
PUTIN TO END THIS HORRIBLE WAR.
>> YOU KNOW, WENDY, THE
ADMINISTRATION HAD
UNDERSTANDABLY TAKEN GREAT CARE,
NOT USING THE TERM WAR CRIMINAL
AGAINST VLADIMIR PUTIN.
OF COURSE, FAR MORE DIFFICULT TO
NEGOTIATE A SETTLEMENT OR PEACE
IF SOMEBODY THINKS THEY WILL END
UP IN THE HAIKU.
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS, THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
HAS CALLED VLADIMIR PUTIN A WAR
CRIMINAL YESTERDAY THE SECRETARY
OF STATE THE I'D THE SAME.
TALK ABOUT THAT AND DOES THE,
HOW DOES THE UNITED STATES
NEGOTIATE WITH A WAR CRIMINAL?
AND IF THIS WAR COMES TO AN END,
HOPEFULLY, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH
IT IN THE FUTURE?
>> ALL GOOD QUESTIONS, WHO
CANNOT LOOK AT THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS
THAT WE HAVE ALL SEEN AND NOT
SAY THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN IS
INTENTIONALLY TARGETING
CIVILIANS THAT MAKES THESE
ACTIONS WAR CRIMES?
THAT SAID A LEGAL STANDARD HAS
TO BE MADE OF INTENTIONALITY AND
EVIDENCE COLLECTED, WHICH WE ARE
IN THE PROCESS TO HELP THOSE IN
THE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM
ACTUALLY SAY THAT THESE ARE WAR
CRIMES.
SOME YOU HEARD FROM THE
PRESIDENT.
YOU HEARD FROM THE SECRETARY OF
STATE.
ARE YOU HEARING FROM ME, THAT
LIKE EVERY OTHER PERSON ON THE
FACE OF THE EARTH, LOOKING AT
THESE PHOTOS, WHO CANNOT THINK
THESE ARE WAR CRIMES BUT WE ARE
COLLECTING THE EVIDENCE, MAKING
SURE THIS IS REAL AND THAT IT
CAN STAND UP IN LEGAL COURTS.
NOW, IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATION,
THIS IS A NEGOTIATION BETWEEN
UKRAINE, PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY AND
PRESIDENT PUTIN.
WE WANT TO SUPPORT UKRAINE FROM
EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO DO.
FROM THE START OF THIS,
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY HAS SAID
NOTHING ABOUT UKRAINE WITHOUT
UKRAINE.
THAT IS WHEN IT COMES TO WAGEING
PEACE, ANY RESULT HAS TO BE
SOMETHING THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE
WANT FOR THEMSELVES.
>> SO I AM CURIOUS AS THE
PRESIDENT TALKS TO PRESIDENT XI
THIS MORNING.
WE ALL OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN
DEEPLY CONCERNED BY THE GROWING
AUTHORITARIANISM IN CHINA WHEN
YOU LOOK AT THE CRACKDOWN IN
HONG KONG, YOU LOOK AT THE WEEK
WUIGGERS IN THE CONCENTRATION
CAMPS, KISSINGER SAID YOU RARELY
HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN GOOD AND
EVIL.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CHINESE
ALSO ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE HAVE
TO OFFER PRESIDENT XI TO STEP IN
AND TRY TO BRING THIS CRISIS TO
AN END, THIS WAR TO AN END,
GIVEN THE FACT THAT BOTH
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WANT
TO VIEW THINGS THEY SEEM TO
AGREE ON IS THAT CHINA IS AN OUTLAW ON THE WORLD STAGE.
OUTLAW ON THE WORLD STAGE.
>> SO JOE, THIS ENTIRE PROCESS
IS ABOUT PRINCIPLES.
WE RESPECT SOVEREIGNTY,
TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT RIGHTS
ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.
XI JINPING HAS SAID FOR YEARS
THAT HE BELIEVES IN THESE
PRINCIPLES.
THAT IS WHAT HIS WHOLE LITANY
HAS BEEN ABOUT.
SO NOW IT IS A MOMENT FOR HIM TO
PROVE THAT.
BY TELLING VLADIMIR PUTIN TO END
THIS WAR OF CHOICE, WAR OF
CARNAGE.
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE, I
DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE
PRESIDENT.
THEY'RE ASSESSING EACH OTHER.
THE LAST ONE WAS IN NOVEMBER
VIRTUALLY.
WE WANT TO SEE WHERE JUST
JINPING IS.
HE HOPE HE ENDS THIS CARNAGE AND
THESE ATTACKS ON CIVILIANS AND,
INDEED, THE PRC IS A VERY
IMPORTANT, VERY GREAT NATION.
THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
I WENT ON THE MEET WITH THE
CHINESE A FEW MONTHS AGO, JAKE
SULLIVAN MET IN ROME RECENTLY.
SECRETARY BLINKEN TALKED TO THE
FOREIGN MINISTER ON A REGULAR
BASIS.
WE ARE CANDID, VERY DIRECT WHAT
GREAT POWERS MUST DO.
WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF XI
JINPING ON THE WORLD STAGE AND
SIGN UP TO THE U.N. CHARTER,
WHICH HE SAYS HE DOES.
WE WILL SEE, WHETHER, IN FACT,
XI JINPING, HIS FUTURE IS WITH
THE UNITED STATES, WITH EUROPE,
WITH DEVELOPING COUNTRIES AROUND
THE WORLD.
HIS FUTURE IS NOT WITH RUSSIA
AND VLADIMIR PUTIN.
>> MAD DAM DEPUTY SECRETARY,
GOOD MORNING, IT'S JONATHAN
LEMIRE.
I WANT TO GET TO TWO THINGS THAT
MIGHT HINT TO ESCALATION.
WE HAD A NATO COUNTRY AND
BREAKING NEWS JUST IN THE LAST
FEW MINUTES, FOREIGN LAVROV GAVE
A STATEMENT SAYING IT WILL BE
CONSIDERED QUOTE LEGITIMATE
TARGETS FOR RUSSIAN ATTACKS,
THAT, OF COURSE, COULD BE HE IS
GIVING NATO ALLIES IF THOSE
CONVOYS BRINGING EQUIPMENT OVER.
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THESE
THREATS?
>> WELL, ACTUAL LIP, JONATHAN,
GOOD MORNING, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
LAVROV MADE THE SAME COMMENTS
SEVERAL DAYS AGO, REALLY
THREATENING THE CONVOYS COMING
ACROSS WITH THE LETHAL WEAPONS
THAT AND YOU HASN'T MARINE
PITARIAN NEEDS AND SUPPLIES
UKRAINE NEEDS SO BADLY.
THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT IF
THOSE CONVOYS ARE ATTACKED ON
NATO TERRITORY IN POLAND OR
ANYWHERE ELSE, AS THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES HAS SAID,
WE WILL SUPPORT OUR NATO ALLIES
TO EVERY INCH OF THEIR
TERRITORY, TO EVERY PERSON IN
THOSE COUNTRIES.
THAT IS OUR SOLEMN
RESPONSIBILITY AS A MEMBER OF
NATO.
SO THESE ARE THREATS COMING TO
TRY TO DETER US FROM SUPPORTING
UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
NOTHING IS GOING TO STOP US FROM
STANDING WITH UKRAINE.