WERE YOU SURPRISED TO EVEN GET
AN INTERVIEW WITH HIM FOR THIS
BOOK.
WHY DO YOU THINK HE DID IT?
>> I WAS FLABBERGASTED.
IN FACT, I DIDNT EVEN ASK FOR
THE INTERVIEW.
HE HEARD THAT I WAS WRITING THIS
BOOK AND AS THIS RAZZWAS RELATED
ME, THE PERSON WHO TOLD HIM, HE
SAID THAT GUY GETS RATINGS.
LETS TALK TO HIM.
THEN I WAS IMMEDIATELY INVITED
DOWN TO MAR-A-LAGO.
WHAT THIS IS, AGAIN, IN DONALD TRUMPS WORLD IS ALL ATTENTION
TRUMPS WORLD IS ALL ATTENTION
IS GOOD ATTENTION.
HE IS FRONT AND CENTER.
>> COUPLE OF SPECIFICS I WANT TO
GET TO IN THE BOOK.
WHEN YOU WRITE ABOUT BLACK LIVES
MATTER IN REFERENCE TO TRUMP
WATCHING TUCKER CARLSON
CRITICIZE THEM FOR NOT DOING
ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROTEST THAT
WERE IN PORTLAND AND SEATTLE.
TRUMP SCREAMED AT CHIEF AFTER
STAFF TO SEND IN THE NATIONAL
GUARD AND HE CALLED THOSE TWO
MEN WORTHLESS FOR NOT DOING
ANYTHING.
HOW MUCH OF DONALD TRUMPS
THOUGHT AND INTENTIONS ARE AS A
RESULT OF WHAT HE CONJURES UP
HIMSELF VERSUS WHAT HE WATCHES
ON TELEVISION AND THUS IS REACTIONARY?
>> WELL, I THINK ITS A COME BY
FLAGS
-- COMBINATION OF WHAT COMES
INTO HIS HEAD FOR WHATEVER
REASON AND WHAT COMES IN THROUGH
THE TELEVISION.
HES ALWAYS -- OWEYOU KNOW ITS
ALWAYS A CONFIRMATION ABOUT WHAT
HE WANTS TO BELIEVE OR WHAT HE
WANTS TO HEAR OR WHAT HE THINKS
WILL MOVE HIS FAN BASE.
>> WHO IS MINING THE STORE WHEN
IT COMES TO THE KPANLCAMPAIGN FU
RAISING.
YOU REPORT IT HAS A 200 MILLION
BUDGET GAP.
THE PRESIDENT BELIEVED THAT
CAMPAIGN MANAGER WAS STEALING
FROM HIM.
WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
>> IT CAME FROM BEING $200
MILLION IN THE HOLE.
REMEMBER, HE HAS TO BLAME
SOMEONE.
IN ANY SITUATION SOMEONE ELSE IS
TO BLAME OTHER THAN HIMSELF.
IN FACT, HE IS THE BLAME.
HE IS -- ANYONE WHO, THE HEAD OF
THE TICKET, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES IS ULTIMATELY
RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN
CAMPAIGN.
HES RESPONSIBLE FOR HIRING HIS
CAMPAIGN MANAGERS.
HES RESPONSIBLE FOR KNOWING
WHATS GOING ON IN THE CAMPAIGN.
MISPLACED $200 MILLION, THE
LITERAL BUCK IS GOING TO STOP
WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES BECAUSE ITS GOING TO --
ITS GOING TO MEAN AMONG OTHER
THINGS HE PROBABLY WONT BE
REELECTED.
REMEMBER, DONALD TRUMP IS
PROBABLY WENT INTO THE LAST
WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN, THE
INCUMBENT BEING OUTSPENT THREE
TO ONE.
THATS PROBABLY NEVER HAPPENED
IN THE HISTORY OF MODERN
CAMPAIGNS.
>> DID TRUMP EVEN LISTEN TO ANY
OF HIS CAMPAIGN ADD VISORS
BECAUSE YOU REPORT HIS OWN
POLLSTERS ADVISED HIM THAT
URGING PEOPLE TO WEAR MASKS, IT
WAS OVERWHELMINGLY POPULAR WITH
HIS BASE AND YET HE REFUSED.
THEY TOLD HIM HE WOULD BE AT
SEVERE DISADVANTAGE IF HE NOT
ENCOURAGED VOTERS TO VOTE BY
MAIL BUT HE REFUSED.
>> MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
CAMPAIGN FELT IT WAS INVOLVED IN
A WORLD CLASS CATASTROPHE.
ONE OF THE WORST RUN CAMPAIGNS
IN MODERN HISTORY ABSOLUTELY THE WORST RUN CAMPAIGN BY AN
WORST RUN CAMPAIGN BY AN
INCUMBENT.
>> HE ACTUALLY CAME WITH THIS
CATASTROPHIC CAMPAIGN VERY CLOSE
TO WINNING.
DONALD TRUMP LISTENS TO NO ONE. >> YOU REPORT HE WANTED TO
>> YOU REPORT HE WANTED TO
RESCHEDULE THE ELECTION.
WHY?
WHATS BEHIND THAT IN.
>> NO ONE KNOWS.
I WENT DOWN THE LIST OF SAYING
WHATS GOING ON HERE AND
EVERYBODY WOULD SHRUG.
THEY ALL ADMIT HE DOESNT KNOW
BIDEN.
HIS INTERACTIONS WITH BIDEN HAVE
BEEN, AT BEST, MINIMAL.
YOU GO INTO DONALD TRUMPS OWN
FIXATIONS HERE.
THE FACT THAT JOE BIDEN IS OLD
BUT DONALD TRUMP IS ALSO OLD.
THE FACT THAT JOE BIDEN
APPARENTLY, AT LEAST IN TRUMPS
MIND HE FEELS HE DIDNT DO WELL
IN SCHOOL.
TRUMP DID TERRIBLY IN SCHOOL.
IT BECOMES THIS KIND OF THING
THAT BECAUSE BIDEN HAS MANY OF
THE SAME ISSUES THAT TRUMP HAS,
IT MUST BE IN ORDER FOR TRUMP
NOT TO HAVE THOSE ISSUES, HE HAS
TO DEMONIZE BIDEN.
>> LAST QUESTION HERE.
IT REALLY BRINGS IT TO PRESENT
DAY.
DESCRIBE DONALD TRUMPS NIGHTLY
PARADE.
I DONT KNOW IF YOU USED THAT
WORD BUT IT SURE SEEMS LIKE
THAT.
THE WAY HE GOES TO DINNER AT
MAR-A-LAGO.
HE SEEMS TO RELISH THE CLUB
MEMBERS BUT HE DOESNT DINE WITH
THEM.
>> THE DINING AREA IS OFF OF THE
LOBBY.
ITS ABOUT, THERE ARE 40 OR 50
TABLES AND DONALD TRUMP EATS
THERE EVERY NIGHT.
HE WAITS UNTIL THE DINING ROOM,
THE DINING AREA FILLS UP.
AT THAT POINT HE ENTERS AND
EVERYBODY STANDS UP AND
APPLAUDS.
THEN HE GOES TO A TABLE WHICH
HAS A RED ROPE AROUND IT.
HE IS THERE AND WHEN MELANIA IS
THERE, THEY ARE KIND OF LIKE A
BRIDAL COUPLE.
THEY SPEND THE ENTIRE DINNER
GREETING PEOPLE.
PEOPLE KISSING THE RING.