AMD vs intel in 2021
which of these cpus should you go for
and that's a question that's been on my
mind lately to the point where
i'm starting to think does this argument
of cpu maker
even matter anymore when things (prices) are so distorted
even from two years ago when amd first
released zen
2 to the wild and that was 2019
that was the year when the ryzen 5 3600
was released
it was kicking intel so hard in terms of
value for money
and then intel responded with their 10th
gen
and since then the prices have gone on
very different trajectories
where we've seen a kind of reversal in
the traditional roles
of these two cpu makers let's take a
look at the market
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description below so i was looking to
build a pc for someone the other day
and i asked them what cpu they wanted
and they said they wanted to get an i7
a 10th gen and i said well have you
thought about looking at say the ryzen
7 3700x and their response was well the
ryzen 7 3700x
brian it costs more than the i7 can we
just go with the i7
because i'm getting the same core and
thread count and then i went and stopped
and looked at the market
itself and indeed what they were saying
was very true
the amd cpus even the zen 2 cpus that's
the 3000 series cpus
were coming in more expensive than the
intel 10th gen cpus and in australia
the worst that i can see the
differential between is the i5 10 400 f
and the ryzen 5 3600 where at most
retailers
they now share pretty much a 100 aussie
dollar difference
between these two cpus so the cost of
going amd
has now been factored into the market as
more of a premium
than it's ever been where typically say
for instance when the 3600 was first
released
it was coming in around a similar or
even better price point
than intel's i5 9400 at the time
it also had more threads in that the i5
9400
had six core six threads so the ryzen 5
3600
at that time was a much better buy but
it seems like since then
that retail pricing has gone all sorts
of haywire
and retailers realize that they can
charge more because there's more demand
there
for that brand name and that logo and
this pricing doesn't just span from the
fact that gpu market has gone completely
wild and
as long as those cryptocurrencies are
sky high
in terms of especially ethereum i'm
looking at you going over
recently at like 1400 us with those
prices going to an all-time high and
people mining those cryptocurrencies
there's going to be that huge demand for
gpus so in terms of the gpu market
that's still messed up
if you want to look at what the gpus to
buy our now
i've made a video recently talking about
that i'll put the link up here
but back to the cpus usually when i
heard the response of
i want cpu x i want gpu x i usually come
up with a okay
how about we go with this instead but
this time around i really had no counter
i just said well the i7
looks pretty good the 10700 f looks like
a great buy
i mean the price of this cpu is coming
in at a very good point
for eight core 16 threads in australia
if we adjust that to usd terms
that's a 300 usd cpu for eight
course 16 threads and it comes with a
cooler
that's pretty much what amd's offering
when they release their 3700x
which was one of my favorite cpus of all
time
though if we fast forward now to 2021
amd have since
then released their ryzen 5000 series
cpus now when i look at the prices of
these cpus
they're pretty much sold out in a lot of
places
but that doesn't really make any sense
because the prices are a lot higher on
these cpus
so it makes me wonder what is going on
with amd
and their supply of retail 5000 series
cpus
so i did a little bit more digging and i
found out that seven nanometer
is in real hot demand our tsmc are
pretty much
booked out on their seven nanometer
production node and so what that means
is
is that since amd have to fulfill all
these contracts with microsoft and sony
for example they've got a set
quota that once that seven nanometer is
filled out
they have to fulfill all their
obligations first so basically what this
means is
the retail channels that's guys like you
and i wanting to buy
a retail cpu like a 5000 series we come
pretty much dead last in terms of the
supply chain
so that could be reason why you're
seeing the higher prices than normal on
ryzen 5000 series
as well as the low stock numbers but
then i stopped and looked at one cpu in
particular in australia
that was the 5800x i mean when i check
this out for 450 usd
i look i said to myself if you want the
best gaming cpu
it's it out of the box right if you
don't really know how to overclock and
you just want something that's going to
do a really good job that cpu is going
to be it but it's going to cost a
premium
but in australia this thing costs a
premium now
of 800 aussie dollars and that's when
you break that down
it's actually a scary reality because
that's pretty much a hundred dollars a
core
that you're paying for the cpu and we
look at this say the ryzen 3 3
100 or the i3 10 100 f
they're coming in at around 120 where i
am or 150
and so now your price per core is really
out of whack
and also another thing that i'm finding
in general is this trend that higher end
gear
is just becoming more expensive and
there's now this new echelon of pricing
for the higher end gpus and higher end
cpus and it feels like in ways
there's this massive squeeze at the
moment on the market i'm not talking
about
particular stocks i'm talking about a
squeeze of the market on the lower end
where you can't buy a lot of low end
parts because a lot of them are simply
becoming out of stock
to the point where it's pushing people
into the higher end of the market
so what i'm here to say all in
retrospect is this year
in relation to the i7 versus the ryzen 7
or the i3 versus the ryzen 3
is that it really doesn't matter in 2021
which cpu you get i think what matters
is the price that these cpus are coming
in at
because they're so distorted from their
typical msrps
that the arguments that a lot of us said
in previous reviews
over the years is not making sense
anymore i mean i never thought
intel's 4 core 8 threaded cpu would be
119 aussie dollars
that's the cheapest a 4 core 8 threaded
cpu has ever been
yet not many people are talking about
that value and people
are still shifting focus to a ryzen 5
3600
so there's another 200 that you're
outlaying on the table
and a lot of cases i feel like a lot of
people coupling these
with mid-range graphics cards just
aren't going to be extracting
that price performance out of what
typically with amd was a brand
that represented amazing price
performance and so coming out of this
video i'm going to make some
recommendations for cpus based on the
price point and the stock levels that
i've seen available at the moment
and coming in at number one is actually
going to be going back
i3 10 100 f i love this cpu even though
the i3
is not good for flipping pcs if you're
going to flip a pc
maybe just call it a 10 100 f4 core 8
thread
just leave the i3 out of the description
because people are going to look at it
and go
i3 isn't that a terrible cpu my friends
told me i3 was terrible
yet this i3 performs better than an i7
6700 and it's also a new cpu versus a
new cpu
and you've got three year warranty
versus something that's going to be out
of warranty now
so the value of this i3 is definitely
hitting hard
just like the ryzen 3 3100 now the ryzen
3 3100
i love this cpu just for the same
reasons as the i310 100f
it's amd's answer for the budget masses
it's great price performance
and the good thing about this cpu is you
can actually get it on aliexpress
for 108 shipped worldwide right now
where
especially in australia and a lot of
other places this cpu
is actually sold out though as we're
stepping things up
my choices of cpus is actually going to
change a little bit
based on the current market conditions
and that is the 10
400 f the i5 6 course 12 threads
especially if you're in australia 220
bucks
this cpu is a no-brainer now the ryzen 5
3600 costing now
a hundred dollars more where i've seen
this cpu go for say 250 dollars in the
past
it's definitely being priced at a
premium versus the i5
so i'd go for the i5 if it's a lot
cheaper which it is at its current price
point and then we step things up to the
i7 10 700 f
really good buy at the moment for 439
dollars
same argument as the 10 400 f it's a
really cheap
8 core 16 thread then the last pick in
the bunch
is well actually two picks from amd and
that is if you want the best gaming
performance you've got the 5800x there
but as we said before
that cost per core is sky high at the
moment
and then if you want a workstation cpu
they've got the 5900x
which i've tested in the past and i'll
put a link to the review of the 5900x
really good cpu that's definitely going
to give you
a solid workstation experience and so
moving forward we see here with the
market it's constantly changing it's
constantly
i wouldn't say evolving i was going to
say evolving but it seems like in ways
it's maybe
devolving but what we've seen with pc
gaming in general
is there's been massive growth in this
industry it doesn't matter which article
you look at
you can see the general trend with pc
gaming is that it keeps on growing
especially
due to the covert situation going on
worldwide people are staying indoors
more
and so they're going to need more gaming
components it just sucks that the
cryptocurrency boom
has put strain on the gpu prices which
when we look at the prices of cpus ram
ssds motherboards everything else in the
pipeline
is actually coming in with a pretty good
price point
i think except uh high-end power
supplies there they also when it comes
to cryptocurrency booms
they also get pretty much sold out as
well but when all said and done when it
comes down to picking out
pc parts i always look at one thing and
that's the raw value for money
that you're getting versus the brand and
fancy labels
that are slapped on a box and so what
i'm seeing with the market this year
and the intel versus amd argument
traditionally all those arguments are
now switched upside down
where it feels like intel's gone from
being the performance king
to now being the value king and then amd
was the value king
now they're turning into the performance
king and if that's what i'm seeing and
then let me know in the comments if you
feel different about this whole
situation
as i love reading your thoughts and
opinions as always but if you've got
your favorite cpu as well
be sure to drop that in the comment
section below and we'll get discussing
because as i said in the intro when i
checked out the prices for a client
my recommendations were really left like
turned upside down i'm like what's going
on with this market
anyhow we got the question of the day
here which comes from daniel bryan
and they ask anyone got an idea if the
shop
911440013 store on aliexpress is real
i was going to buy a gtx 1050 ti or 1060
as they are so cheap but i'm hesitant
and i think we checked out this exact
store on a live stream when i was
looking at uh prices of cpus
and it just looked too good to be true
so someone said that they bought
something and they also
got a refund because the seller never
sent them a tracking number or shipped
it out
so do be careful of that store i mean i
spoke about on the live stream
where i said be very careful when
someone's selling something
that comes significantly under the next
competitor usually when you've got a
product
and you know it's going to sell well you
don't price it
at a point that's significantly
undercutting the competition
because it'll just sell sell sell sell
sell sell you'll be out of stock in a
day
what will happen is though if you price
it say a dollar cheaper
you'll then start gathering steady sales
and you'll be able to sell it or even if
you want to hot sell it
sell it five dollars cheaper because
what they were charging on some of their
prices was like 20
cheaper or 30 dollars cheaper i'm just
like that's too good to be true
and as i've said in the past i'll say
this actually it's probably going to be
more of a regular saying here on the
channel because
the amount of scams that are going on is
going up and up and up and that is
when something's too good to be true it
usually is
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