tonight at midnight mountain time of ronnie league gardner is to face
execution by firing squad in utah for the murder of two men a bailiff and the defense
attorney in nineteen eighty five
%uh he has %uh the is a few appeals left
I don't understand how this happens
%uh that appeals you and I may say you can appeal up until they fire you
%uh but %uh the the is there something in the supreme court right now as we
speak right now there may already be appeals being heard
%uh he
the up wanting it shows to be killed by the firing squad hasn't happened since nineteen
ninety six the most famous was of course in utah
Gary gilmore %uh about them
book a executioner's song was written was of executed their
I it you know it
it brings to mind that very little has changed in our country because Gary gilmore's nineteen
seventy seven seventy eight oh one said
%uh and were thirty years hence almost and or over
and you know we still have some legal in front of a firing squad in utah %uh and
%uh it's
to me
you know people say prisons about rehabilitation punishment and I I would use to this is one
of those %uh
issues about what takes to be pro-death penalty and I'm not anymore and I think that the innocence
project in things like that too many people are for it because of
well for I think you were trying to sell a picture of me
he thinks the and that that's why you've changed position right that's true that's exactly
what I've done the system huffington ask in that calm right now I'm exactly where you
are on I use the product of and as I look at this painting most what very lightly did
well he he did
and he did it there's no question
right and I think I think that almost no sympathy for I'm actually I'm sure to write your honor
%uh and a the problem is this is
the you think you know this guy aidid you positive everybody that and we found out that
the innocence project many of the things that no workers up we converted
you know and endless number of people
and said and sentence them to death when they hadn't done it I didn't like this that's the
thing
I am
it's not be being liberal or conservative
I believe in fact
and he's shown the fact that you say are look these are people who are on death row ten
of the as I go out that way
we're not going to right and societal the it's also about that or we do we want to part
of society that kills people that actually puts them in front of a firing squad and bills
I'm and I say no a and today I heard somebody on the newsstand is not a news person someone
being interviewed in utah saying
in the kinds of moses they would of stone that that what this you know to say and the
kinds of moses now is ridiculous this is not the time
of moses we've made I think a little bit of progress or not because were about to kill
someone %uh I just I have a I have a little bit of a hard time that President but a lot
of the times of the visit off
in thailand India and their files they would is years while he was still alive the would
have hung and drawn and quartered a decade a
and
what does that prove and let's let's just be clear this guy killed two people
he did it and open court there's tape of it
he killed the bailiff and a defense attorney
he killed the there's no question about it do we want a part of society that then kills
him I don't think so I don't think of more toward on that a as as water eyes opened because
of the matter of if we stiff if this was a guy
I just know that
in Texas yep that's of get in
the deaf and blind lethal injection the that's not the right answer are going to go
I think that really did this on purpose that he said yet of the other of you know
the it is and nominee doesn't do these gloves with a hundred percent about that and it's
unusual that very few states that still allen a if you were convicted before nineteen ninety
six and utah you can
she used to still have the firing squad after that you can no longer have the funds but
%uh but I would argue it's relevant McCain what I mean by that is
look up
I'm comfortable with the lethal injection
the way and that's it
but I think it's a bit
but let somebody killed my family right
I bought a midnight
and and
and as my human instinct idea and and has been always says that's why shouldn't it be
side effects
and and do you really believe that if an item doesn't bother me at all but if you set a
all but what if you're at this about not or the standoff
okay that's
but for a full course that matters what does that mean I don't know what they are saying
that would that we're getting all this attention to this prisoner this this death row inmate
because of the way he's got yes it is a bizarre way to die I did bring them into the chamber
they strapped into a chair
the and the man a doctor with a stethoscope actually feel pretty smart than did it
place a target over his heart all little yes
sharpshooters that are in a window
four of them have a bullet one of them has a blank
they fire and the kaelin and within seconds the he's dead
at issue of in the heart
%uh and
it's it is a very bizarre way
to kill somebody in America now on
and as far as you know what do you do you want to keep you know I I don't know that
I would get great pleasure of seeing somebody else stick a needle in the person who killed
a family member of mine I would want to kill them or I would want them to
to throw the and I I think it's a societal thing to but that that is my and that's the
range of thing is that there's interesting so will we will look and see around the league
are turning have just a few hours political or they may get a reprieve from the supreme
court this elastic and that kind of pass
%uh the five structures one has a black yeah
so that you can see maybe I was looking at the blanket I didn't actually do I'm assuming
that that is exactly the reason was because
those are the kinds of things
and really that's what it is
why I decided to do it it's part of your job it's not the you volunteer to do it it's it's
part of so there's there's
the the possibility
that if you work for the department of corrections in you are a prison guard or a sharpshooter
within the prison system that that will need
one day be partnered up
right I wonder though if you drew the short straw and you had a view of execution and
he said look I just can't do it
with fine
I I doubt that they would it's probably very sensitive thing and all that comes up once
every
fifteen years that scene for twenty years and only for more
but condemned inmates on death row who have the option of utah selected defiant well
%uh but you know you have to feel like they're probably some of them that are very good at
that