THOSE WITNESSES.
JACKIE: THANK YOU FOR BREAKING
THAT DOWN FOR US.
ANTE McCARTHY, I’M GRATEFUL WE
HAVE YOU TO BREAK THIS DOWN FOR
US TODAY.
THE KEY IS WHAT YOU HAVE SAID
ABOUT THIS AFFIDAVIT ABOUT
TRYING TO REDACT PARTS OF IT AND
KEEP PARTS OF IT SEALED.
GIVE US INSIGHT INTO HOW CLOSE
OR HOW FAR THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT IS FROM BRINGING
CHARGES.
IN YOUR COMMENTARY TODAY YOU
SAID THEY MAY NOT BRING CHARGED
AT ALL.
>> IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO ME
THEY WOULD FIGHT SO HARD TO
CONCEAL LARGE PORTION OF AN
AFFIDAVIT THAT IN A NORMAL
CRIMINAL CASE, THE AFFIDAVIT
WOULD GET TURNED OVER TO DEFENSE
IN DISCOVERY AND IT WOULD BECOME
A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
IF THAT’S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
THERE IS A PROSECUTION.
WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING SO HARD.
THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE USUAL CRIMINAL CASE.
USUAL CRIMINAL CASE.
IN A NORMAL FIEBL INVESTIGATION
INVESTIGATION, YOU DO THE SEARCH
WARRANTS WHEN YOU DO THE ARREST
FOR PROBABLE CAUSE.
IT’S HIGHLY UNUSUAL TO DO A
SEARCH IN THE MIDDLE OF AN
INVESTIGATION.
IT ALWAYS WOULD RUN THE RISK OF
BLOWING AN INVESTIGATION IF YOU
DID THINGS THAT WAY.
ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY FOUGHT
AGAINST DISCLOSING.
EVEN IF YOU WEREN’T DEALING WITH
THE ONE OFFICIAL IN THE UNITED
STATES WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO
DECLASSIFY ANYTHING HE WANTED TO
DECLASSIFY.
DECLASSIFICATION LAWSUITS ARE
HARD TO DO BECAUSE IT’S HARD TO
DO WITHOUT THE UNDERLYING
INFORMATION.
NOTE THAT PEOPLE DON’T DESERVE
TO BE PROSECUTED BUT THERE IS
TOO MUCH NATIONAL SECURITY RISK
TO ACTUALLY DOING THE CASE IN A
PUBLIC TRIAL.
JACKIE: THAT INDICATES WHAT WE
KNOW IN THE PORTIONS THAT WERE
UNSEALED, THAT THIS WAS ABOUT
THE DOCUMENTS.
THERE IS NO SMOKING GUN LEADING
TOWARDS ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS NOTICE OF OBSTRUCTION,
THERE WAS COOPERATION.
THERE WERE REQUESTS FOR THE
DOCUMENTS AND THE LEVEL OF THIS
WAS RAISED TO A RAID STATUS TO
TAKE THE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FELT HE WAS NOT BEING FORTHRIGHT OR NOT
NOT BEING FORTHRIGHT OR NOT
HANDING OVER WHAT THEY ASKED
FOR.
>> REPORTER: I THINK WHAT THEY
WOULD SAY, I DON’T UNDERSTAND
WHY ATTORNEY GENERAL GARLAND
MADE A PUBLIC STATEMENT IF HE
WASN’T GOING TO ADDRESS WHAT
THEY DID.
I THINK WHAT HE WOULD SAY IS
THEY TRIED DIFFERENT WAY TO THE
GET THE INFORMATION BACK.
THEY TRIED REASONING WITH THE
TRUMP CAM.
THEY ESCALATED IT TO A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION.
THEY ISSUES GRAND JURY SUBPOENAS
NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE.
THEY SENT PEOPLE TO MAR-A-LAGO
TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE TO THE TRUMP
CAM TO MAKE IT WE ARE THEY NEED
THE INFORMATION BACK.
THEY PROBABLY GOT TO THE POINT
OF SAYING IF WE DON’T TAKE IT WE
RISK NOT GETTING IT BACK.
ANY TIME YOU LOSE HIGHLY
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HAVE TO
DO AN INTELLIGENCE REVIEW TO SEE
IF THERE ARE INTELLIGENCE
OPERATION WHEREAS WE DIDN’T
REALIZE THEY WERE BLOWN AND LIKE
THE CHINESE AND THE RUSSIANS
WERE FEEDING DISINFORMATION.
YOU CAN IMAGINE THE MILLION
POSSIBILITIES YOU HAVE TO RUN
THROUGH.
BUT YOU CAN’T DO THE JOB RIGHT
UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
DEALING WITH.
WHAT THE DOCUMENTS ARE.
JACKIE: THE PRESIDENT ON SOCIAL
MEDIA SAID HE FEELS THIS IS A
WITCH HUNT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RAID ON
THIS HIS HOME, GOING THROUGH THE
PERSONAL EFFECTS, THEY WERE
ALLOWED TO DO THAT PURSUANT TO
THE WARRANT.
BUT SOME FOLKS WOULD SAY THEY
WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE
THAT WASN’T LAID OUT IN THIS
WARRANT, AND IF THEY FOUND IT,
IF THEY FELT IT WAS COMMIT
CONNECTED TO THE COMMISSION OF A
CRIME THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE
THAT AS WELL.
>> THAT’S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IT’S NOT ONE OF THESE SITUATIONS
WHERE IT HAS TO BE ONE SINGLE
EXPLANATION.
IT COULD BE TRUE THEY WANTED THE
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION THAT THE
NATIONAL ARCHIVES WANTED THE
PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS THAT BY LAW
ARE SUPPOSED TO KEPT AT THE
NATIONAL ARCHIVES.
NOT AT THE PRESIDENT’S
RESIDENCE.
IF THEY CAN HIT A HOME RUN AND
MAKE IT RELEVANT TO JANUARY 6,
ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE TRUE AND