- Dance for me rule boy.
- Traditionally, a sporting match would start
with a score of zero to zero would you agree with that?
- Feels like a trick but yes.
- Yes that is generally true, however,
there is a rule in the NCAA basketball rulebook
that could potentially lead to points being scored
before the actual tipoff of the game.
- That doesn't sound broken at all.
- Indeed my good man it was broken.
You know that 20 minute warmup period
before a basketball game?
- [Will] Yeah for lay-up lines and free throws
- [Ryan] Just general warming up.
You couldn't dunk in that time cause
that's technically dead ball time,
and if you do you get a technical foul
and the other team will get free throws
before the game has even started.
- That's trash.
- It's pretty trashy.
It was rule 10 section 4 article 1-E,
a technical foul shall be assessed to a player
or a substitute for the following infractions:
And then one of them was,
A team member dunking or attempting to dunk a dead ball
before or during the game or any intermission.
So that 20 minutes of warmup time was technically
dead ball time and you couldn't dunk.
Presumably the rule's because they thought it was
unsportsmanlike cause you can dunk in a game
it's not like a safety thing.
- In high school you would go to games early
cause there was one team in our district that had a guy
who would dunk and we would go early and it would be awesome
and we would watch him dunk and then they would blow us out
and we would go drink in the Whataburger parking lot.
- The classic American story.
This actually happened in the NCAA tournament in 2014.
In the first round. In the very first round.
- Why not? Stupid rule big stage.
- This guy named Brian Rohleder he was the sophomore
walk-on for Kansas State.
- Fake name.
- Fake name, fake news, fake name.
- 30 year old.
- No the sophomore walk-on is in the lay-up line
just practicing lay-ups and the timer starts for the pregame
warmups and he's at 19 minutes and 58 seconds
so he gets two seconds in and just absentmindedly goes up
and dunks the ball and an official comes up to him and goes,
"Hey listen, that's a technical foul"
- Hey Bri, sick dunk first off, you can't do that Bri.
- I think I have a feeling based on his name,
was he a star of the team?
- He was not actually he played a collective 30 minutes-ish
the whole season before this game.
- And this is March Madness.
- And this is March Madness so it's the end of the season.
Kentucky got two foul shots before the game,
the guy missed one so they started the game one to zero.
Kentucky was up one to zero with 20 minutes
to go in the first half.
- I hope that was a pity miss.
- Kentucky ended up winning by seven,
so it didn't matter in terms of the tournament.
- So you're good.
- But the spread was six and a half points
- I bet people were cool with it though.
- So people were totally fine with that
and I'm sure that guy didn't get death threats
or anything from gamblers in Vegas.
- So that's why we haven't heard of him.
- That's why we've never heard of him.
- Except for the NBA.
- He immediately disappeared.
It's happened a couple times actually,
the next season in December,
North Florida lost to Tennessee Tech by the two points
that they gave them before tipoff.
They did the same thing they were dunking before the game,
Tennessee Tech nailed the two shots,
and they won by two so that was a huge bummer
for them at the time I'm sure.
- [Ryan] If you're a ref or an NCAA official in that
scenario and you decide to call that penalty you're a cop.
You're for sure a cop.
- You shouldn't be allowed to go home.
- You should just become a cop.
Yeah you should not be able to go home.
Just go to the police station and become a cop.
- They should at least give a warning first.
If he does it again or without warning if it's five
minutes before tip then yeah T him up.
- Right and I think the goal was to prevent showboating
or unsportsmanlike conduct but who is sitting there
20 minutes before a basketball game
that you are showboating to?
The assistant athletic staff and the dude selling hotdogs?
- Nice dunk dude!
- Brian's sitting there he's like,
"This is the one game my parents came to all year,
they don't believe I'm on the team."
So what do you think led to this?
Who do you think the first Brian was?
- I can only assume that maybe it was like,
where did Shaq go to school?
- LSU
- LSU, maybe he had broken so many LSU backboards
before the game even started where they're like,
"Dude you can't do that anymore"
- Shaq the other team drove 12 hours to get here.
- Cause it's the sixties, how old's Shaq?
He's like 80 right?
- Shaq is 82 years old.
He's three years younger than Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
- That's how he knows the general.
His old ass.
- They're old war buddies they served together.
- Okay so one game it affected the point spread.
One game it literally affected the outcome of the game.
So after that they said maybe this is a bad idea?
- After that 2014-2015 season they got rid of the rule.
I don't know if you can dunk in intermission or whatever
but that pregame 20 minutes you can dunk.
- They fixed that and they just go bananas now.
- Oh it's just nuts.
- So Brian, I'm not even going to pretend to remember
his last name, essentially basketball martyr.
- A little bit.
If you're a big dunking before a college basketball fan,
you have Brian to think for exposing this issue
and being the person to give up a point before
the game even started because of his love of dunking.
- He died so we could dunk.
- He died so that we all could dunk.