Hello and welcome back all my dragon ball theorist and it's been awhile since I did
a discussion based video explaining a difficult topic on which there is so much confusion
on in the Dragon Ball community.
After days of debate in the comment section and people just asking more questions I had
to make this video.
What did it mean for Jiren to transcend time?
Why is this feat of strength the most impressive thing we seen in Dragon Ball?
Why has no one else transcended time?
Well I am going to set up some analogies that will put all this in perspective but realize
that no other fighter has transcended time.
Gotenks or Vegeta breaking out of the time chamber isn't transcending time and defeating
Hit's time skip which any elite fighter has shown to be capable of is also not transcending
time itself.
So We will break down how Jiren made time irrelevant and
transcended it accomplishing a 4th dimensional feat that is so impressive that left Vados
saying he is just beyond comprehension.
Let's get started!
So for the analogy to explain what happened exactly when Jiren transcended time I must
first explain and give an example of an infinite time loop which what was holding Jiren.
We have seen a perfect simple example of an Infinite time loop in the movies with Dr.
Strange when he imprisoned the almighty Dormammu.
It was explained if you haven't seen the movie that Dormammu is an being of infinite power
a comic conqueror with an endless thirst to bring all worlds into his dark dimension.
Pretty terrifying stuff and I get why Dr Strange wasn't interested at first in the job.
Wait a second how can a cosmic being of infinite power from another dimension fall victim to
a Infinite Time loop?
Doesn't Infinite power mean that no one can match it?
No not exactly as there are different levels of infinity.
Also you can have infinite speed and power as a 3 dimensional being and be rendered completely
helpless to time itself.
You simply don't have the ability to transcend it.
So we got that treat of Dr. Strange saying over and over again I have come to make a
bargain to Dormammu and while his power is far beyond anyone as a cosmic being.
Dr. Strange saw his one weakness, time.
No matter how much power Dormammu has he is confined by the laws of time.
Eventually giving up after killing Dr. Strange in many clever ways.
Dormammu had met his match as he couldn't defeat time.
This is also the same decision Hit came too with his Trump Card and making a Time Cage
for Jiren.
He knew he couldn't defeat Jiren his power and speed was just too much.
The only answer was to trap him in a cage of time.
An infinite loop.
Where he would have no hopes of escaping till the end of the
tournament.
Except as we know time itself wasn't a match for Jiren.
If anyone else was trapped in an infinite time loop whether it's Vegeta, Goku heck even
Vegito they would all be trapped there helpless.
You could even give Vegito infinite power and speed but still he would not be above
time itself or be able to transcend it.
That is their limits and why Jiren transcending time is so very impressive.
Wait a minute some people have said Gotenks transcended time ripping a hole in the time
chamber like Buu and Vegeta broke out of the Time Chamber as well!
Except they didn't transcend time and while their feat of strength is impressive what
they did was rip a hole in the dimension they were in.
You see they were never trapped in time itself just another dimension and there is a massive
difference.
The time chamber functions like the world of the void with it's own rules and laws.
The time chamber is a dimension where time flows just much much slower.
Escaping the time chamber and ripping a hole in that dimension is impressive but it's the
same as escaping the world of the void or any other dimension.
They are just ripping a hole in that dimension and not breaking the laws or rules of time
itself transcending it.
Once again breaking through a dimension is super impressive but it isn't transcending
time.
We have seen other beings in Dragon Ball that are defined to have infinite power in Zen-oh
who is of course not above time.
We now have 2 of them as Goku went back to get Zen-oh from the time line he destroyed
and was literally stuck there floating to bring him back to our timeline to meet the
present Zen-oh.
No one rivals his powers and that has been proven erasing Universe at the snap of a finger
but still Zen-oh with all his power has no control over time and like Dormammu another
cosmic being this is his most clear and evident weakness.
When we look further at Whis' technique of reversing time for 3 minutes for his impressive
do over that we have seen a few times.
This feat is truly remarkable giving everyone and Goku another chance to defeat Frieza.
To not make the same mistake and since Frieza isn't able to transcend time they were able
to achieve the ending that they want defeating him easily the 2nd time.
The limitation of course is the 3 minutes and only in the past but still a handy technique
to use on powerful beings to correct the wrongs that happened.
However if Jiren was in Frieza's spot and about to destroy the planet when Whis goes
to revearse time Jiren can literally just say No.
His power is above time itself and you can't rewind time to defeat Jiren because he can
transcend above it.
Jiren could literally shatter Whis time reversal preventing him from reversing time.
Which is why Vados says when he has the power to transcend time itself that it is indeed
beyond comprehension.
This is why they stated this and made such a big point of it to solidify when Jiren transcended
time and defeated Hit he literally has no equal on the stage.
Jiren is the most powerful fighter now easily surpassing fighters like Vegeto and Merged
Zamasu.
This is the mortal that even a God of Destruction can't defeat after all.
Jiren is a fighter that if trapped in an infinite time loop literally can just own time itself
and be above it.
Jiren is just on a completely different level and why when we look
at impressive fighters like Vegito and Merged Zamasu they just don't even compare to Jiren.
They are literally worlds apart as Jiren is accomplishing 4D feats while
Vegito, Merged Zamasu and the other are confined to only 3D powers.
A lot of people try to scale Vegito and compare him in a fight against Jiren and it just doesn't
work.
Vegito is indeed powerful I am not discrediting his abilities but even if we gave Vegito infinite
power and speed anything he does just won't matter in a fight against Jiren because in
the end Jiren will have more power and speed.
He has the power to transcend time itself making even an infinite powered Vegito irrelevant
in a fight.
This is why Belmod knows no matter what No one can defeat Jiren because there aren't
any fighters on the stage that have the power to transcend time.
Jiren is just unmatched and the strongest fighter Goku and Universe 7 have ever faced.
This is also why even if Goku's Ultra Instinct didn't run out he would of still lost the
first time.
Jiren was honestly just interested in this new power that Goku had attained.
It was noted before by Tien if Jiren was interested in Goku and of course that answer is yes.
You see Jiren wants to test his abilities as much as Goku.
Then Goku breaking through his shell to achieve Ultra Instinct is probably the most interesting
thing Jiren has seen in a long time.
Except in the end the results are still futile.
Jiren smirking and knowing that while Goku was at his limit he hasn't even begun to get
started yet.
There was no threat to Jiren in that first fight against Goku and he knew this from the
heat he was giving off and there was no need to show the full extent of his power against
Goku to out right defeat him.
Even Goku asked the question if I achieve this form again will it be enough?
There is doubt because he fought Jiren and knows that it might not be.
Goku has the right form unlocked and is on the right path but still
has to grow a lot before he has the ability to take down Jiren.
It was made very clear again in the fight against Kefla the new limitation of Goku's
Ultra Instinct that he has to overcome.
That he isn't able to utilize it fully and transition the powers of it to attack.
Right now Goku's attacks aren't effective or adequate even against Kefla who
is nowhere even close to Jiren.
It is clear that Goku is getting the hang of the form and powering up to even more impressive
levels.
Except Jiren waits patiently even though Goku's movements are becoming more polished and continues
to grow in power.
Jiren wants to see if Goku can master Ultra Instinct more and
actually cause him to display his full power that transcends time and is beyond comprehension
as Vados says.
It isn't a mistake for Jiren to leave Goku in the tournament it is interesting for him.
To also discuss Hit's time skip what he is actually doing isn't controlling time but
a fun hack and storing time.
Hit isn't above time itself and can't shatter it.
So when we look at a fighter like Dyspo who beat Hit's
time skip he just cleverly countered it by being fast enough to know when he was going
to use the time skip to store time and attacked him before he could.
So Dyspo never transcended time because he can't so had to come up with a way to go around
it.
Which is why when Hit discovered this he dismantled Dyspo soon after with ease.
So there are ways to defeat a time skip by being fast or being a great fighter like Goku
but they aren't defeating time itself just Hit's ability and how he uses the time skip.
Now the trump card that Hit planned for Jiren his ace in the hole his Time Cage that would
of worked on anyone except Jiren.
He stored up time in an infinite loop which is
far different than his time skip.
For arguments sake let's say Hit can store up to 1 second of time.
We don't know how much he improved and no need for an exact number as 1 second works
for discussion.
Hit stored this 1 second of time up in a loop that repeated over and over again.
Once Jiren was attacked by this technique he was supposed to be forever trapped until
the tournament ended.
The only way out for Jiren in an infinite time loop to escape at this point is to defeat
or transcend time itself.
There is no other way around it because he was already trapped.
So when Jiren actually used power alone to make time irrelavant as I have said it is
the most impressive feat seen to date in dragon ball.
It made people in the stands wonder what is he.
This is why even an angel Vados said he is beyond comprehension.
He has the ability to transcend time itself.
So the work that Goku and the rest of the fighters have to defeat Jiren is a pretty
tall order.
Goku with Ultra Instinct just is not going to outpower Jiren.
You aren't going to defeat or match up to someone like Jiren 1
on 1 fight.
Fortunately for the tournament rules in place it will be the only way they can possibly
defeat him.
Which is also why Quitela is still so confident despite his
situation.
So I just don't think they will give Goku alone a climatic finishing battle with Jiren
but it will require the help from Vegeta and even perhaps Frieza or other fighters to come
up with a plan to deal with this monster.
I just want to say if you think Goku will defeat Jiren you are more than welcomed to
show your love him in overcoming all odds.
I just don't think he will this time and believe that Jiren going into the next Arc will be
this obstacle that Goku has to overcome.
That he will continue to train with Whis to master Ultra Instinct and maybe some day he
gets to fight him again.
Honestly I am very curious what they have planned for the next Arc moving forward and
they have to leave some obstacle for everyone to overcome.
So just wanted to say thanks for watching everyone and hope that these analogies and
discussion I came up with was enjoyable for you on transcending time and Jiren's power.
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