Bob spindle, a republican member of the Wisconsin election committee,
openly boasted about the GOP's successful effort to suppress black and
Hispanic voter turnout.
I'm not kidding, he very transparently bragged about it.
Let me tell you how.
Now he's the chairman of the fourth congressional district GOP,
and a member of the Wisconsin elections committee.
And he wrote an email to thousands of republicans,
literally thousands of people received this email.
Where he said this in the city of Milwaukee with the 4th
Congressional District Republican Party working very closely with the RPW,
RNC, Republican Assembly and Senate Campaign Committees,
Statewide Campaigns and RPMC, in the Black and Hispanic areas.
We can be especially proud of the City of Milwaukee 80.2% Democratic vote,
casting 37,000 less votes than cast in the 2018 election
with the major reduction happening in the overwhelming Black and Hispanic areas.
I mean just brazen.
>> Mm-hm. >> Brazen, super transparent, he's like,
yeah, I think we can be real proud that we suppress the vote of
these specific voters, yeah.
>> I love it because normally, when you'd have a story like this with the intro that
you gave or like the lower third down there gloating, it's click no,
no, what she just read is not the worst part of this by the way.
No, it's not like hey, we did better than we did last time.
And if you connect the dots, he was talking about an area that demographically
is majority Black and so weekend hipso facto he was happy, no, it's none of that.
It's they voted less and, thank God it was in black and Hispanic areas.
Areas so Black and Hispanic, I'm overwhelmed by it, like I love that-.
And again this is not the best part because someone didn't get the memo that,
no dude this is about election integrity, it's about security.
>> No,no. >> And so he goes more in detail.
>> Yeah, no, the email continues, this great and
important decrease in Democrat votes in the City was
due to a well thought out multi-faceted plan.
And then Spindle, bragged about what the plan was.
So biting Black Radio Negative Commercials run the last few
weeks of the election cycle straight at Dem Candidates.
A substantial and very effective Republican Coordinated Election Integrity
program resulting with lots of Republican paid Election Judges, and
trained Observers and extremely significant continued Court Litigation.
>> Mm-hm.
>> So little voter intimidation here, corrupt judges there.
>> Yeah.
>> Didn't we do so good?
>> Yeah, that was- [CROSSTALK].
>> Amazing.
>> And then the radio thing, where it's not like, dude, put a little bit of work
in it, and be like you know what we made sure that Black voters knew the facts
about their candidates by putting the ads in the radio-.
>> [CROSSTALK] But why?
Why John?
Why?
Why would he have to put-? >> No, it was just,
we put some ads on black radio and it was super negative and
I don't even remember who the candidates were honestly.
But it clearly drove some of them to be apathetic about the possibility of
political change, so should change.
>> But John, why?
Why would he need to be sneaky in his rhetoric?
Why would he need to hide what the motivation is here?
>> Yeah.
>> He was brazen about the voter suppression.
He was brazen about his giddiness in having an impact
on that voter suppression.
And were there any consequences?
>> Not that I know of you [INAUDIBLE].
>> Did the media even really care about this story?
Really? >> How could they not?
>> I mean, look, listen, I get that the Jorge Santos story is interesting.
We covered it too, okay?
But like I don't need minute by minute updates on what else he lied about.
>> Yeah. >> The dude's a pathological liar.
>> By [INAUDIBLE] is fine.
>> Nothing.
Also by the way again to the tiny low fig leaf that if he wanted to,
he could provide, he could say we did this well coordinated effort,
whatever and Blah Blah Blah and there were 37,000 less votes.
So we have to assume that those were fraudulent and we stopped a bunch of-,
he doesn't even pretend that he thinks he stopped fraudulent votes or whatever.
The facade, the cover story of election integrity or security or
whatever it's supposed to be.
He's very clear, we tried to drive voters out of the system and
put obstacles to stop them from voting and it worked hazaa, that's all it is.
He's saying what we say constantly about their plan and despite us saying and
making the case, despite him clearly saying it, the right is going to continue
to say that no, they just they just care about security or whatever.
>> Now Spindle is already,
he was already a controversial figure before he just openly and
brazenly bragged about suppressing the votes from, Black and Brown voters.
He also pushed Trump's big lie, which shouldn't be shocking,
claiming that the election was stolen from Trump, and
he was even one of the 10 fake Republican electors who plotted to fraudulently
hand Trump a second White House term, so that's who this guy is.
But now his racist comments are also out in the open and
Wisconsin voting rights advocates want him to resign.
So there are some activists on the ground in Wisconsin who want action and
they're they're fighting hard for action.
Unfortunately, I haven't really seen much support from the corporate media on
this matter.
Hopefully by doing this story, we're raising awareness.
And and maybe some of the people in Wisconsin can join in with
these activists, but nonetheless Chris Wallace, who's the executive director
of a better Wisconsin together, says there's no easier way to put it.
Spindle is a trump faction conspiracy theorist who has actively tried to
sabotage and influence the outcome of Wisconsin's elections based
upon his own partisan bias and look, of course, I don't look,
I agree with that statement, but it doesn't go far enough.
Every political operative, every politician wants to have an impact or
actively sabotaged the other side for political power, we know that.
What makes this different, which takes this to another level,
is that they are suppressing voters.
>> Yeap. >> And he not only acknowledged it in that
email to thousands of republicans, he bragged about it.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
it's a demonstration of how all of the claims about the big liar,
obviously content free, he's tapped in the system, he knows how this works,
he knows how ridiculous the claims they're making are.
But it's also it's an aspirational projection.
It's to whatever extent they think the vote was being manipulated in 2020 or
2016, even in states where the Republicans are in charge and Trump was president and
Biden was out of power and these are states with Republican legislatures and
secretary of state.
So, how would the Democrats even steal it if they wanted to?
This is just, I think that elections should,
at the end of the day not be up to the voters,
it should be about whoever manipulates the outcome as much as possible.
And so that's what I'm going to do and
I'm gonna lay out all the ways we manipulated the vote.
I'm gonna make clear that, you know,
that it is goal oriented, it is a reduction in voters.
He talked about the the election judges and the litigation.
He didn't list all of the unfair prior laws that they successfully challenged and
got justice.
It was just, these are tools we used.
The end result was 37,000 less voters, aren't we amazing.
That's all it is.
And we have been warning people for years about obviously high profile people,
Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, those sorts of people you do need to focus on them.
But also the fact that they're infiltrating every level of the election
systems, which are by the way, not generally that top down,
you have to pay attention to the cities and counties and they're doing that.
Which is why this is just one guy holding one office.
There are potentially hundreds of these people distributed throughout the country.
>> In fact, it's not just Milwaukee.
It's important to understand that every municipality in
Milwaukee County that saw its turnout decline,
did see its turnout decline with some by a higher percentage than Milwaukee.
So I think you met Wisconsin.
So basically, let's focus on one of these races that was incredibly important.
If it weren't for some of the voter suppression, there was a good chance that
a democrat like Mandela Barnes could have won, in Wisconsin.
I don't know the exact numbers, but incumbent Ron johnson ended up winning.
And I would venture to say that if voters weren't suppressed,
maybe the results of that election could have been different.
>> Yeah. >> But this is not, again,
this is not just a local story.
This is an effort that we're seeing across the country, especially in red,
like traditionally red states that have become more and
more purple in recent election cycles.
I mean, we saw the voter suppression laws that were passed in states like Georgia.
But it did have a counter effect in that people in Georgia were aware
that these laws were meant to suppress their vote and they got real active and
turned out the vote anyway,
to kind of overcome some of the obstacles that were put in their way.
But this is so clear and so brazen, so transparent.
And anyone who claims that Republicans aren't trying to rig our democratic
process to their advantage is either incredibly naive or lying on purpose.
Let's just keep it real.