RELEASE THIS TO THE PUBLIC AT
THIS POINT, MIKE.
>> Mike: DAVID, MANY THANKS.
>> Sandra: ANDY McCARTHY, FORMER
U.S. ASSISTANT ATTORNEY AND FOX
NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
I WANT TO PUT UP ON THE SCREEN
THE TIMELINE AND HOW WE GOT HERE
AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN TRANSPIRE.
JANUARY 2021, THE EVENTS LEADING
UP TO THIS MOMENT, DONALD TRUMP
DEPARTS THE WHITE HOUSE SHORTLY
BEFORE BIDEN IS SWORN INTO
OFFICE.
HE TAKES WITH HIM, TRUMP DOES,
AN UNDISCLOSED NUMBER OF BOXES
CONTAINING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
IT WAS LATE IN 2021 WHEN THE
NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS
ADMINISTRATION, AGENCY TASKED
WITH PRESERVING FEDERAL RECORDS,
CONTACTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
FORMER PRESIDENT.
SHORTLY AFTER JANUARY 2022,
CORRESPONDENTS, THAT THEN DONALD
TRUMP RETURN 15 MISSING BOXES OF
CLASSIFIED MATERIALS FROM HIS
TIME IN OFFICE.
THAT LEADS US TO JUNE OF 2022,
DOJ OFFICIALS TRAVEL TO
MAR-A-LAGO WE ARE TOLD TO MEET
WITH LAWYERS REPRESENTING TRUMP
REGARDING THESE ADDITIONAL
MISSING DOCUMENTS.
AND THAT BRINGS US TO AUGUST OF
2022, THOSE TALKS BREAK DOWN,
THE DOJ PURSUES A SEARCH WARRANT
AND THE FBI EXECUTES THIS RAID
THAT HAPPENED 48 HOURS AGO.
SO NOW, HERE WE ARE, ANDY.
WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE?
>> WELL, I HAVE TWO IN THE MAIN.
ONE IS HOW MUCH OVERLAP IS THERE
BETWEEN THE TIMING OF THE
EXECUTION OF THE SEARCH WARRANT
AND THE BROADER INVESTIGATION
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING
IN CONNECTION WITH THE EVENTS OF
JANUARY 6TH BECAUSE I DON’T
THINK THE TWO CAN BE SEPARATED
OUT.
WHAT HAPPENED AT MAR-A-LAGO IS
NOT IN ISOLATION.
IT’S PART OF A PATTERN THAT GOES
ON FOR ABOUT SIX WEEKS THAT
BEGINS WITH SEARCH WARRANTS ON A
COUPLE OF TRUMP-RELATED LAWYERS
WHO WERE INVOLVED IN
JANUARY 6TH, AND CONTINUES,
SANDRA, EVEN THE DAY AFTER THE
MAR-A-LAGO SEARCH WARRANT WITH
THIS SEARCH WARRANT THAT WAS
EXTRAORDINARY THAT WAS EXECUTED
ON CONGRESSMAN SCOTT PERRY FOR
HIS CELL PHONE.
HE’S ONE OF THE TRUMP ALLIES IN
THE HOUSE WHO WAS VERY MUCH
INVOLVED IN THE STOP THE STEAL
CAMPAIGN THAT SURROUNDS
JANUARY 6TH.
SO, I DON’T THINK THESE THINGS
CAN BE SEPARATED.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I’M NOT
SAYING THAT THE SEARCH THAT THEY
DID AT MAR-A-LAGO, WHEN I SAY
IT’S PRETEXTUAL, THEY WANT
EVIDENCE ON MORE THAN ONE
MATTER, I’M NOT SAYING THEY WERE
FRAUDULENT IN GETTING THE SEARCH
WARRANT.
I THINK THEY ARE MORE INTERESTED
IN JANUARY 6TH THAN THEY WERE
INTERESTED IN WHAT THEY WERE --
WHAT THE REASON FOR THE WARRANT
WAS, CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AND
THE GOVERNMENT RECORDS.
>> Sandra: ARE YOU SURPRISED BY
THE FORMER PRESIDENT PLEADING
THE FIFTH?
>> I’M NOT SURPRISED BY IT BUT I
THINK IT’S MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN
WE MAY ASSUME.
IN CRIMINAL CASES, WHEN SOMEBODY
TAKES THE FIFTH, THE JUDGE TELLS
THE JURY YOU CAN’T DRAW ANY
NEGATIVE INFERENCE ABOUT THAT.
LIKE PUT IT OUT OF YOUR MIND IT
NEVER HAPPENED.
THAT’S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.
IN CIVIL LITIGATION, YOU CAN
TAKE THE FIFTH IF YOU THINK A
TRUTHFUL ANSWER CAN INCRIMINATE
YOU, BUT THE FABT FINDER -- COST
ANALYSIS, AM I MORE DAMAGED IN
THE LITIGATION BY STAYING SILENT
WHERE THERE’S A REAL COST TO
THAT THAN I WOULD BE IF I GAVE
INFORMATION.
SO I THINK IT’S -- IT’S A BIGGER
DEAL IN A CIVIL CASE WHEN
SOMEBODY DOES NOT AGREE TO
TESTIFY.
>> Sandra: FINISH OFF WITH THE
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" EDITORIAL
BOARD THIS MORNING, A FIRM
WARNING, THE FBI DANGEROUS
SEARCH AT TRUMP’S MAR-A-LAGO,
MAYBE BE A FISHING EXPEDITION TO
FIND EVIDENCE RELATED TO
JANUARY 6TH.
TO YOUR POINT, ANDY, THE RAID
OCCURRED ONLY ABOUT 90 DAYS FROM
A NATIONAL ELECTION, ALSO
INCREASES THE POLITICAL
SUSPICION.
THE FBI SEARCH ON TRUMP SUGGESTS
THAT GARLAND MAY BE COMMITTED TO
PURSUING AND INDICTING MR.
TRUMP.
IF SO, HE IS TAKING THE COUNTRY
ON A PERILOUS ROAD.
YOUR FINAL THOUGHT ON THAT,
ANDY.
>> YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE
VERY EASY, SANDRA, FOR THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL TO SAY HE’S NOT
GOING TO WANT TO CONFIRM DETAILS
OF THE INVESTIGATION AND TELL US
THE UNDERLYING INFORMATION, BUT
THEY COULD GIVE US A TIMELINE
WHERE THEY SAID LOOK, WE TRIED
TO BE REASONABLE.
FIRST ASKED THEM FOR THE
DOCUMENTS, WENT BACK DOWN TO
TALK TO THEM, THEN A GRAND JURY
SUBPOENA, STILL WOULD NOT GIVE
IT TO US AND FINALLY NO CHOICE
BECAUSE THIS IS NATIONAL
SECURITY INFORMATION, WE HAD TO
GET IT SO WE HAD TO DO A
WARRANT.
HOW HARD WOULD IT BE IF THEY HAD
THAT KIND OF AN EXPLANATION, HOW