>> Shannon: BRYAN LLENAS,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
STAGGERING LEVELS OF VIOLENCE IN
RIO DE JANEIRO HAS LED THE
MILITARY TAKING OVER THE
SECURITY OF THE CITY AND
BOLSONARO IS POISED TO GIVE THE
MILITARY AND EVEN BIGGER ROLE IN
BRAZIL'S GOVERNMENT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT ALL THIS AND
MORE WITH BRAZIL'S AMBASSADOR TO
THE U.S., SERGIO AMARAL.
YOUR PRESIDENT-ELECT IS GETTING
MUCH THE SAME REACTION THAT OUR
CURRENT PRESIDENT GOD.
PEOPLE SAY HE'S BOISTEROUS, SAYS
CONTROVERSIAL, UNKIND THINGS.
HAS BIG PLANS AND SOME ARE NOT
GOOD FOR HIS POLITICAL ENEMIES.
HOW IS IT BEING RECEIVED IN
BRAZIL?
>> SOME SIMILARITIES.
I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT
YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
WHAT THE PRESIDENT-ELECT WILL
DO, HE DOES, HIS POLICIES, THE
PEOPLE FOR GOING TO BE IN HIS
CABINET.
SINCE THE SECOND ROUND OF THE
ELECTIONS, THE PRESIDENT-ELECT
WAS VERY MODERATE AND WHAT HE IS
SAYING, AND WHAT'S HE'S
INDICATED HE WOULD DO.
HE COMMITTED TO COMPLY WITH THE
CONSTITUTION AND BRAZILIAN LAWS.
WE HAVE STRONG INSTITUTIONS.
PEOPLE THINK ABOUT WHAT HE MIGHT
DO THE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT
THE INSTITUTIONS ARE STRONG.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD
AGAINST CORRUPTION.
THE JUDICIARY HAS TAKEN TO JAIL
MORE THAN 15 POLITICAL LEADERS,
MORE THAN 50 BUSINESS LEADERS.
INSTITUTIONS ARE WORKING, AND
THEY ARE RESILIENT.
>> Shannon: HE WAS PRAISED AND
BRAZIL WAS PRAISED BY OUR FORMER
U.N. AMBASSADOR, NOW NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISOR JOHN BOLTON.
HE SAID.
>> THE RECENT ELECTIONS OF
LIKE-MINDED LEADERS IN KEY
COUNTRIES INCLUDING COLOMBIA AND
LAST WEEKEND, JAIR BOLSONARO IN
BRAZIL.
THEY ARE POSITIVE SIGNS FOR THE
FUTURE OF THE REGION.
DEMONSTRATE A GROWING REGIONAL
COMMITMENT TO FREE-MARKET
PRINCIPLES AND OPEN,
TRANSPARENT, AND ACCOUNTABLE
GOVERNANCE.
>> Shannon: THAT SPEECH WAS
ABOUT CRACKING DOWN ON WHAT HE
CALLED THE TROIKA OF TYRANNY.
VENEZUELA, CUBA, NICARAGUA.
YOU SHARE A LARGE BORDER WITH
VENEZUELA.
>> WE ARE VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE
THIS IS A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.
2,000 KILOMETERS OF FRONTIER
WITH US.
WE ARE CONCERNED.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
U.S. FOR INSTANCE IN THE
CONTACTS.
WE ARE OPEN TO THE EXTENT WE CAN
TO BRING ABOUT A PEACEFUL
TRANSITION FOR A DEMOCRATIC
REGIME IN VENEZUELA.
>> Shannon: OKAY.
IN THE MEANTIME, THIS IS WHAT
THE MIAMI NEW TIMES HAD TO SAY
ABOUT YOUR PRESIDENT-ELECT.
CAMPAIGNED QUITE LITERALLY ON
SPILLING BRAZILIAN BLOOD,
BOLSONARO HAS PROMISED TO
MOBILIZE POLICE AND PARAMILITARY
SQUADS TO SHOOT DISSIDENTS
ON-SITE.
HE HAS PROMISED TO PURGE
LEFT-WING OUTLAWS.
IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT OR HAS
HE MODERATED HIS VIEWS?
>> THE MORE RECENT DECLARATIONS
ARE ON THE CONTRARY.
THEY ARE IN THE OPPOSITE
DIRECTION.
BUT HE HAS INSISTED IS THE
MISSED ADVANTAGE POLICE IN
BRAZIL HAVE VIS-A-VIS ORGANIZED
CRIME.
ORGANIZED CRIME HAS STRONGER
WEAPONS THAN THE POLICE AND THE
POLICE ARE INDICTED IF THERE IS
A CONFLICT AGAINST ORGANIZED
CRIME.
THE POLICE IS INDICTED AND MAY
GO TO JAIL IF FOR INSTANCE, IN
THE CONTEXT OF THIS CONFLICT, .
>> Shannon: TO THE ISSUE OF
CHINA, OUR PRESIDENT HAS SAID
THAT YOU HAVE VERY HIGH TARIFFS
AND HE WANTS TO WORK ON TRADE
WITH YOU.
YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE RUNNING A
DEFICIT SO YOU WANT TO WORK ON
TRADE AS WELL.
THE ISSUE OF CHINA IS BIG IN THE
REGION BECAUSE THE U.S. HAS
COMPETING INTERESTS WITH CHINA.
IN A PIECE, HEADLINE RADICAL
PLANS AND RISKS IN FOREIGN
POLICY OF BRAZIL'S BOLSONARO AS
BOLSONARO WILL BE STARTING HIS
ADMINISTRATION AMONG FRICTION
WITH CHINA WHICH HAS INVESTED
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ENERGY,
INFRASTRUCTURE, OIL PROJECTS IN
BRAZIL.
HE CAMPAIGNED, HE COMPLAINED THE
CHINESE ARE BUYING BRAZIL
ITSELF.
>> NOT MANY INDICATIONS NOW
CONCERNING FOREIGN POLICY.
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA IS
ONE OF IMPORTANT ISSUES BECAUSE
CHINA HAS A LOT OF INVESTMENTS
IN BRAZIL AND IT HAS BECOME OUR
MOST IMPORTANT TRADING PARTNER.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
CHINA-BRAZIL RELATIONSHIPS AND
THE RELATIONSHIP CHINA HAS WITH
OTHER COUNTRIES IS WHENEVER WE
SAY SOMETHING, THEY ACCEPT.
WE TOLD THE CHINESE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUY LAND.
THEY DON'T.
WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON THE KIND OF
POLICY WE WANT TO HAVE WITH
CHINA, AND THAT'S A REASON WHY
THEY WILL NOT CONTINUE
COMPLYING.
>> Shannon: THE WORLD WILL
WATCH AND SEE HOW THIS NEW
ADMISSION COMES IN.